I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with BF2 for one reason:

[Jesse]

Re: I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with BF2 for one reason:

I didn't call anyone a n00b, so you've highlighted tour own IQ. What I was getting at was inexperienced players, and players who should really know better, baserape.

Um...you seem to have forgotten calling anyone who baserapes a n00b. Scroll up a few posts to your own post to remind yourself.

What a stereotypically american attitude to take. To use your Baseball analogy, baseraping is akin to leaving the field and brawling with the players on the bench because they are not as good at the game as you.

I must have a point, otherwise you'd refrain from digging for any insult you can, making assumptions, and actually present some sort of concept to the whole point I made, other than saying "Hey, I recognize baseball!" Sorry, but there is no bench in BF2. If you're in the game, you're on the field, and you're fair game to be shot. Or are we going to have "base" like in freeze tag as a child where you're invincible?

[JMLufkins]

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Who freaking cares if they spawn camp and take you out you deserve it. if your team is not coordinated enough to over come the problem then don't whine about it and ask for a free ride to play the game. this game is about TEAMWORK and domination.

soo many times i see people spawn as a kit to not be able to overcome the situation. a f'n medic is not going to take out a APC or Tank or any vehichle. quit being a bunch of whiny ass pansies and over come. And uncappable or not. if the other team can make push you back that far then your team deserves what it gets.

And yes I will spawn camp a spawn in a tank and mow you down as soon as you pop up. it's a war game and war is not fair. when it happens to me i just spawn somewhere else of spawn with a kit to try to overcome the situation. i don't cry about it like a 9 year old. I'm glad none of you whinny asses don't play on the server i play on, even the admins will accept it as we are getting are asses beat.

[Rogue845]

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Um...you seem to have forgotten calling anyone who baserapes a n00b. Scroll up a few posts to your own post to remind yourself.

I must have a point, otherwise you'd refrain from digging for any insult you can, making assumptions, and actually present some sort of concept to the whole point I made, other than saying "Hey, I recognize baseball!" Sorry, but there is no bench in BF2. If you're in the game, you're on the field, and you're fair game to be shot. Or are we going to have "base" like in freeze tag as a child where you're invincible?

I apologise for the 'american' comment - I typed before thinking it through.:|:

I honestly went back and read your post, and the only point I could find was a counter argument to my suggestion of letting them get organised.

Fair enough if people are defending flags instead of baseraping, it's going to be harder for them to cap a flag, So what? It's no skin off your nose if a team that already sucks can't organise themselves and make a decent attempt at assualting a position. You're still proving your superiority by holding your flags, but admit, it's gotta be harder to keep what you've got than base rape. It's a more sporting approach, and it might allow the game to get interesting.

[HowieMandel]

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I just wish there were ZERO uncaps in any map. THat would solve the whole issue. Total take over maps. That would be ducky.

[JMLufkins]

Re: I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with BF2 for one reason:

I just wish there were ZERO uncaps in any map. THat would solve the whole issue. Total take over maps. That would be ducky.

I also think if one side has an uncap then the other side should have one

[imported_Phenomenomenon]

Re: I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with BF2 for one reason:

OP, I wish I could pursuade you otherwise. The very fact that you have the freedom to do these things is what makes this game great.

"The only thing that could possibly redeem the savagery of war is the goal for which it was faught."

In a war game with out any noble end, I'm afraid all you have is a bunch of people trying to use what ever tactic they can to win. And that's fine.

I'm afraid until you let go of preconceived notions of ethical behavior on the battlefield, this game will not bring the enjoyment that it should.

[Chowley]

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Wait a sec, I play Nations @ War sometimes myself and they have Anti Base Rape guns at the Uncaps, how in the world were you being Base raped with this great feature installed?

They were destroyed. Well one of them anyway, the other was over the hill.

they could have a challnge if they enemy side would use anti-tank kits to take armor out!!


because I see people makeing 30 kills non-stop because players don't want to spawn as anti tank kit :laugh:

It's your own freaking mistake if you got raped geek.
stop freaking whining man. or go play CoD or something where you can only be shooted one time in one round :|:



Don't tell bull **** oke, like: increasingly

Because by the battlefield games, the base and spawnraping part is a part of the game.
and don't say not or something because look at BF vietnam and BF1942.

or go play Cod man.

Your a top retard arent you?

They were not in a tank, they were in planes. The air defence guns were destroyed. Its a ****ing mod its about fun not about stats in my opinion, why base rape when they could attack a plane or attack a flag. How is it my own mistake if they are base raping? I did not say spawn raping which is avoidable. You can just spawn somewhere else, but if you want a chopper or a quad or whatever in the game you have to spawn at the base.

Sloi hit the nail on the head when he said they dont want a challenge they just want easy kills.

Have you played COD Terroser? You can only be shot once in a round, how did you work that out? Its a deathmatch you respawn over and over in the round, theres is constant spawn raping in that game far more than BF2.

[Terroser]

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I just wish there were ZERO uncaps in any map. THat would solve the whole issue. Total take over maps. That would be ducky.

Sorry for you mate but the maps are not maked for that!!


:laugh:

Just play the freaking game man omg.......
if you don't like it go to a another server.
If an admin say to stop baseraping oke that is the rule OF THERE SERVER.

I will just search an other server.

BE AWARE if you don't like the aspect from the game, sell your freaking game. OKe!!!! because it's a part of the game.

[imported_Phenomenomenon]

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Wow can't believe not many people are not backing up Sloi on the issue of sportsmanship, its quite sad.

WHooa, hold up. Imposing your preconceived notion of how others should play a game, doesn't mean you have cornered the market on sportsmanship.

Many of these same people that believe in in-game freedom and attacking what ever base the momentum of the round calls for, would be the first to offer up a GG at the end of a round or compliment a soldiier who killed him with a "nice shot.".

Perhaps it's bad sportsmanship to try to alter the rules of a game to your own liking. I don't go to the park and enter a game of football and declare that their should be no fieldgoals and anyone who does is a bad sport.

[Eternal-Souljah]

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Well the main things that annoy me is:

- Hop in a jet a line of your team stand in front of it

- Medics and support who when you ask for a medic etc they don't listen and walk away, even if there beside you, happens quite alot for me.

- Commanding, your flag is being capped by a enemy infantry, on your team is a player in a tank about a meter away, you uav or spot them out and the tank just goes in the other direction and the flag gets capped.

- Statpadding, I see whole servers doing it, e.g 24/7 air maps I think its called.

- Teamkilling for vehicles.

- Hogging vehicles, okay im not saying this happens all the time which is good, but it seems to happen alot if I play on Sharqi, as soon as the round starts its a rat race for the MEC heli, then if someone gets in, then a group decide for a little M95'ing, after that the 2 people in the heli are there for the whole round, and the next round and the next, and if one of them gets in and his buddy doesn't quite make it into the gunner seat, then the pilot strives over to the barrior on the map and kills the gunner then picks his buddy up.

Unhappy noobs: Happened to me yesterday in Operation Smoke Screen, one dude ranked Master Sergeant was in the jet so I took him out in a dog fight then he says to me ''ITS MY FIRST TIME IN A JET YOU ******* WHY YOU KILL ME'' loooooool.

Spawn raping has toned down quite alot for me now, I mean not completly but I learn to deal with it, if it happens anyway, I mean more then 80% of the time the MEC heli is up at the USMC radio station, and the gunner is racking up kills like the terminator, so if im USMC I never or rarely spawn at the USMC radio station now, unless im getting the heli etc.

Other then that things have gotten better, I just join the servers in my favorites now have like 5 or 6, mainly because some of the servers are clan servers and I played with them alot of times and know the server and people are fair and not really selfish.

[cheesewz]

Re: I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with BF2 for one reason:

I also think if one side has an uncap then the other side should have one

That doesn't really solve the perceived problem.

Case in point, Ghost Town in SF. Both sides have an uncap. Eventually the better team will almost always pin the weaker team into their uncap spawn only and rape them like a 98 pound dude in prison. If you are the 98 pound dude it sucks bigtime. If you're the burly convict then it is nice. But the point is that the 98 pounder put himself in that position and he has to deal with the outcome like a man.

When I've been on the receiving end it made me cry out (silently) to the heavens in anguish about the poor sportsmanship. Then I think about it a bit and realize how stupid that whole idea is. It's like telling a dude to take the first swing in a fight just to be sporting. My dad always told me to fight to win. Take the first punch, use a bat, whatever it takes to win. When you get the guy on the ground you kick them until they can't get up anymore. That is the nature of combat.

With a slight bit of teamwork you can break out of a spawn camp. And I mean any spawn camp. There have been many threads with people bitching about armor spawn camping. My response is this, if you respawn there after I've killed you and aren't an AT trying to get revenge, then the problem is you. Not me. If you want to stay as your beloved kit of choice, spawn somewhere else. All it takes is two dudes to respawn as AT and that spawn camping tank is toast.

[TheGhost]

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Simple question for the "Don't rape the uncap" crowd. Let's say you are playing on 64 player Dragon Valley. You are US and have either the Cobra or F-35. You fly over the Chinese airfield and see a guy running toward either a J-10 or Z-10. Do you shoot him or not? Let's say you see him just as he gets in, do you shoot the jet or helo or not? My experience is that anyone who answers no to this question is a liar. I have not once in hundreds of matches seen an enemy pilot who would let the Chinese pilot off the ground under these circumstances. By admitting that you would in fact try to kill the other player, you are admitting to being a hypocrite.

If your only argument for not raping uncaps is that it isn't "fair" or that it is "unsporting", please explain how it is ok for you to do the exact same thing just because the other teams flag is cappable? Some of you have gone so far as to say that people raping the vehicles on the carrier are cowards. The real cowards are the people who expect to be able to take off with no fear of attack, but who then won't hesitate to light up a pilot on the ground at the opposing air field.

Fair and sporting mean both sides play by the same rules. Letting one team get a freebie pass on getting their most powerful vehicles off the tarmac while the other team is open to the constant threat of attack is neither fair nor sporting.

[imported_BabySpinach]

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... the lack of sportsmanship.

What the F U C K is with the incessant uncap camping and raping ? I have nothing further to add: no insightful comments about how we could improve the situation. In fact, I'm at a loss for words...

I've always found that you could really know people by the way they play: the psychology doesn't lie and unfortunately, behind the facade of education and modern-day conditions, most people are little more than savages, anxiously awaiting the moment to exploit any situation to their advantage. Such a thing as fair play doesn't exist, it seems. Like wild animals, people need to be controlled and kept in check, otherwise they will revert to primitive behaviour... it's sickening.

If trusted members of the community could have admin on every server... my goodness, what an incredible thing that would be.

/rant

Edit: added a few things.

So your basically a noob.

[ACE4U]

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What is wrong against attacking an uncap flag . That is where the UAV satelite and arty are located. I've been on both sides, just shut up and die already. It's just a game. If a team does it to you, go after there main base like in Fushe Pass or Dallan Plant. Stop the whining and fight

[JMLufkins]

Re: I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with BF2 for one reason:

With a slight bit of teamwork you can break out of a spawn camp. And I mean any spawn camp. There have been many threads with people bitching about armor spawn camping. My response is this, if you respawn there after I've killed you and aren't an AT trying to get revenge, then the problem is you. Not me. If you want to stay as your beloved kit of choice, spawn somewhere else. All it takes is two dudes to respawn as AT and that spawn camping tank is toast.

that's why i don't have a problem with base/spawn camping. it's done to me and i do it also. but when it's done to me I, well i'm AT most of the time anyway because of the maps i play. But yeah I try to spawn with the kit that would be most useful and don't biotch about not being able to win.

Bunch of whinners in this game.
And now that i think about it, you're right. the teams that have an uncap have a difficult road ahead and if they are able to overcome it then they deserve it. :salute: