Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

[Terroser]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

reminder^^

People who played bf1942, know very good that spawnraping was the biggest tacktick ingame to take flag, because it was the only way to let them stop spawning at the near flag.

also the distance between a flag is much bigger in bf2 then in bf1942.
so players are more prevoked to use such tackitck. because they can't go the flag and seperate(devide and conquer)
or they must walk again (linair gamestyle to take flag: and that is all about takking flags in battlefield games)

also the main kit would be medic again.
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So don't blame me, if you get raped more often

little example:

Squadleader is on one side of a flag, spawnkilling. Next om him there is a medic. also spawnkilling at the other spawnpoint. this would be not near the flag but at the farest spwanpoint at a flag.

the other 2 people will go the flag and take the close spawnpoints
so as you see, very linair gamestyle. and very much spawnkilling.

I don't spawnkill much because it's not neccary as in bf2 because of squadhopping and squadcycling

Now I will be provked, to first cover the spawnpoints. like in bf1942
to stop the army from keeping spawning. because death means walking a long distance

[Verzili]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

reminder^^

People who played bf1942, know very good that spawnraping was the biggest tacktick ingame to take flag, because it was the only way to let them stop spawning at the near flag.

also the distance between a flag is much bigger in bf2 then in bf1942.
so players are more prevoked to use such tackitck. because they can't go the flag and seperate(devide and conquer)
or they must walk again (linair gamestyle to take flag: and that is all about takking flags in battlefield games)

also the main kit would be medic again.
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So don't blame me, if you get raped more often

little example:

Squadleader is on one side of a flag, spawnkilling. Next om him there is a medic. also spawnkilling at the other spawnpoint. this would be not near the flag but at the farest spwanpoint at a flag.

the other 2 people will go the flag and take the close spawnpoints
so as you see, very linair gamestyle. and very much spawnkilling.

I don't spawnkill much because it's not neccary as in bf2 because of squadhopping and squadcycling

Now I will be provked, to first cover the spawnpoints. like in bf1942
to stop the army from keeping spawning. because death means walking a long distance

good point i have to agree with you there,

also the 15 sec to kill the 6 man squad thing,or the wave of 6 wil return ect, that works both ways dont you think?

me=sl+ 5 sm vs sl+5sm we both have the ability to spawn after 15 on the squad leader and continue to try and secure a flag ect.

thats a fair fight imo,but the spawn camping is alot less fair.

so to sum it up it will most likly turn in to a spawn killing freenzy if the squad system is changed.

[spartan915]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

Leave his squad and join another... BEFORE you die. Suicide and respawn if you want to get to him in 15 seconds. Hope he doesn't die in the meantime.

No change there... as long as you're not doing it while dead, you can still change your squad and spawn on the new SL.

Poor logic. Why if I'm already dead and see that a SL needs help taking another flag would I have to spawn, change squads, suicide (-2 points) and then hope the SL is alive to spawn on him. If he's not my team just lost three tickets in a vain attempt at teamwork according to you. The way it is now the SL and I may still die but atleast I had a chance to help and we only lost 2 tickets instead of 3. The system works fine just the way it is. People are always telling me to adapt to the new style of play. Why can't you adapt to a style of play that has been around from day one.

Squadhopping wasn't intended.

According to who. It's been in the game since day one and has surived multiple patchs.

[Tobacco]

Re: Petition to save Battlefield 2

I hate squadhopping it doesn't requires tactics on my last war against a clan one of them ran into the bushes and then there came like 5 out of the bushes and then capture the spawn point there is no strategy/tactic behind this it's as dumb as hell in my eyes I love it that Dice is going to take it out and make the game and the clan wars as it is intended..

???? No Tactic? Dude please. Just because you don't have the capability to switch Squads on the fly and stay in the fight isn't Dice's fault. Dice, don't listen too them.

Innovate, Overcome, Adapt, or just cry to Dice to Nerf what it is you can't deal with. Pathetic



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[HowieMandel]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

You be nice too!

It's really not suprising at all that clanners like the psudo-feature. They are much more likely to get together with things like TS or Vent. This let's the communicate without having to depend on the in-game VoiP and reduces the need for solid squads.

In comp play, it can get perty crazy. It's intense when you're playing 12 vs 12 and everyone is hopping all the time. You get 15 seconds to wipe out the other squad or you'll be sure to see troops popping back in. They may or maynot be bringing re-enforcements. The fire fights get totally nuts.

The problem is that it's overpowering when your mixing that with noobs/pubbers/casual players. Non-clanners simply can't compete with that and can't be expected to.

That's blatently ignorant.

I'm leaving this thread up so your side can argue your case. Do it rationally and cut the crap or it's going to get locked.

Clear?

I understand about the clan thing. I started a clan in DC, and took my team in 10 games, to 8th place, before calling it quits. (proving that a bunch of hacks can get together and do well)
I understand clans are competitive and all of that. However, this says squad hopping is ok............why?
it doesnt.
ITs the opposite. A clan is supposed to be more organized. More skilled. Better equipt, and all that other nonsense. Why would they have to resort to abandoning leaders, and squads? Dont make sense. SOrry.

[Terroser]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

You be nice too!

It's really not suprising at all that clanners like the psudo-feature. They are much more likely to get together with things like TS or Vent. This let's the communicate without having to depend on the in-game VoiP and reduces the need for solid squads.

In comp play, it can get perty crazy. It's intense when you're playing 12 vs 12 and everyone is hopping all the time. You get 15 seconds to wipe out the other squad or you'll be sure to see troops popping back in. They may or maynot be bringing re-enforcements. The fire fights get totally nuts.

The problem is that it's overpowering when your mixing that with noobs/pubbers/casual players. Non-clanners simply can't compete with that and can't be expected to.

That's blatently ignorant.

I'm leaving this thread up so your side can argue your case. Do it rationally and cut the crap or it's going to get locked.

Clear?

lol it's not my clan fault that they not using TS or something becauser there are loads of free ts servers around, or you can me a self one so.

and some some servers don't have voip
Also it's the clanners fault that they pwnd the pubbers:hmm:
dam nice logic to sruw the clanners again.


They will probaly trying to nerfing like spawnraping in the next patch
because of the fact, no squadhopping can't be done anymore other tackticks will be used to take a flag.

Originally Posted by KoMeT*[NL]
I hate squadhopping it doesn't requires tactics on my last war against a clan one of them ran into the bushes and then there came like 5 out of the bushes and then capture the spawn point there is no strategy/tactic behind this it's as dumb as hell in my eyes I love it that Dice is going to take it out and make the game and the clan wars as it is intended..

I feel very sorry for you!
because if squadhoping can't be done anymore. higher clan just go spawnkilling to take a flag(Like bf1942) and then the mid skilleds will be provked to do also and low skilled will learn it from the mid skilled.

and those tackticks will come to public also.

[Greasy_Mullet]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

Hell no, this lame "feature" has got to go.

[Terroser]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

Hell no, this lame "feature" has got to go.

tell me why then?

because you will get raped more often if patch 1.3 come out!

[ACE4U]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

I am all for the fix. As a squadleader, it is awful to have a six man squad and then find yourself with only three. This keeps loyality with in the squad. You can not just jump squads in combat, you must stay with your squadleader. This adds another realism to the game, enough it is not real.

If you do not like the idea of being locked in your squad then do not update the patch, stay with the 1.2 or just unistall the patches and go back to bunny hopping.

Thanks DICE for making this change and do not listen to the whiners for their is always plenty of them in any kind of sport or field of play.

[Terroser]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

I am all for the fix. As a squadleader, it is awful to have a six man squad and then find yourself with only three. This keeps loyality with in the squad. You can not just jump squads in combat, you must stay with your squadleader. This adds another realism to the game, enough it is not real.

If you do not like the idea of being locked in your squad then do not update the patch, stay with the 1.2 or just unistall the patches and go back to bunny hopping.

Thanks DICE for making this change and do not listen to the whiners for their is always plenty of them in any kind of sport or arena.

do you know what will add realism :

fuel

[Tobacco]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

I'd further suggest that since Tournies aren't ranked, it's a much less big deal for the "pro" gamers to use a "pro" mod than it is for casual gamers to have to put up with people useing tactics that weren't intended in the game's design.

"Game's Design", how is being able to switch Squads not in the game's design? If I remember correctly the BF2 Manual describes Spawning on the Leader as an important Tactic(Not exact words of course :p ) I usually agree/enjoy reading your post WG, but IMO your wrong about this one. All this comes down to is Teamwork, not Game Design.

The reason I like "Squad Hopping" is so I can get out of a Squad where a Noob has become the leader and won't drop/rejoin on a Squad Member who is closer to the Fight. IMO, trhis is a bigger problem than the argument that is going on in this thread.



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[=IMO=PFCBerkeley]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

Actually Tobacco, there is a statement from a developer saying that you weren't intended to be able to select another squad leader to spawn on while dead, but it was another one of those things that they hadn't taken out.

And to those that say that it will only lead to more spawn camping, well I know that when I play pubbing even with my clan I don't squad jump and I don't have a whole lot of problems getting places and into the action. Sure its a quicker way to get there, but I don't see the connection between having to travel a bit farther (face it most people don't walk when they don't have to) will lead to spawn camping. It would just be like any other time where you were trying to cap a flag. Even now you know where the spawn points are so you keep an extra eye out for when someone spawns, it doesn't mean you have your gun trained on that one spot the entire time.

[Terroser]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

Actually Tobacco, there is a statement from a developer saying that you weren't intended to be able to select another squad leader to spawn on while dead, but it was another one of those things that they hadn't taken out.

And to those that say that it will only lead to more spawn camping, well I know that when I play pubbing even with my clan I don't squad jump and I don't have a whole lot of problems getting places and into the action. Sure its a quicker way to get there, but I don't see the connection between having to travel a bit farther (face it most people don't walk when they don't have to) will lead to spawn camping. It would just be like any other time where you were trying to cap a flag. Even now you know where the spawn points are so you keep an extra eye out for when someone spawns, it doesn't mean you have your gun trained on that one spot the entire time.

played bf1942! so not try it.
and you see lot's of people camp at spawnpoints at flag to take it over.

[Kobra]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

*ANTI-SIGNS*

It's a bad system that everyone had to use just to be compeditive.

[Terroser]

Re: Petition keep squad hopping in Battlefield 2

*ANTI-SIGNS*

It's a bad system that everyone had to use just to be compeditive.

ehh . dam nice logica :hmm:

it's: you can play it for fun or competive