*JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

[imported_Sephiroth]

Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

Grenade Launcher: I was not used to do it, this nerf now rendered the Assault class useless.

No bunny hopping / jump and shoot: Basically one of the silliest nerfs against infantry

1. Nerf the jet's cannon. It's utterly retarded to have a such powerful cannon in game. Who flies choppers of any kind knows that a jet can make a single run (in bomb mode, so no warning) and in less than a second you are toast and like "WTF?".

That thing needs to be down to something closer to the AH-1Z or Z-10's cannon. Or better, no cannon at all!

I agree with all of them apart from these. Grenade launcher was good but used by noobs to much. Bunny hopping is for complete noobs. I'd like to see anyone jump and shoot an AK47 or any other kind of rifle while jumping and hit anything. Take realism into account. I mean, i'd allow pistol to fire while jumping but thats about it. And nerfing a jet cannon would be a little insane as they pwn in RL. But i defintly think the Black hawks minigun should be THE ultimate weapon in BF2. It destroys anything and everyhing in RL. No need to link you to some RL minigun carnage video as every topic like this already has one.

[imported_Snuffy The Evil]

Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

I think the only big imbalance is the F-35. The J-10 isn't a problem, the F-35 is just too nerfed to be useful.

[Mad Ad]

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well ive tried to measure like for like and its hard as turning circles are different at different heights, however at around 100ft base, I measured that the J10 has a turning circle *somewhere* near 214ft and the F35 has a turning circle *somewhere* near 260ft.... thats quite a lot.

So if I was asked what I would do to up the balance, id ask that the F35 turning circle be reduced to somewhere nearer the J10...perhaps not the same but at least somewhere closer than the ~20% difference it is now.

On top of that the F35 is supposed to be a stealth fighter? So why does it show up in 'spotted' calls for the same 12 seconds as any other jet? Reduce (or remove completely) the time it appears on our minimaps, plus a smaller turning circle and that might just start to make it worthwhile to dogfight in.

imo

[ichangedmyname]

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OP, you keep on trying to fight a losing arguement.... "All the people arguing with me are jet whores" I have spent about 10 hours in a jet (tops) I have maybe... 100 kills? Must be a whore!

You want jets to be USELESS so you can own all alone in your chopper.... Make minimal adjustments to multiple areas that will weaken jets and you get a good balanced game....

Slightly more range and strength for AA missile sites.
Slightly less armor for jets.
Slightly less ammo.
Slightly less rearming/repair times.

That would limit a jet enough to render it a regular vehicle, but it would not make it as much of a killing machine as a buggy.....

If you dont like jets... then play Sharqi, you can still whore the chopper there!

As far as choppers being owned by jets..... I always get owned by tanks as infantry, but that is the natural cycle! Do I whine and sniffle and cry about it? No.... tanks are a part of the game and they deserve a place In the game. Same thing with coppers and jets....

[hemimotorz]

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Its never going to get fixxed. EA has given up on the BF2 community. They are more focussed on people buying and playing 2142. I suggest playing PoE2 if you want something diffrent.

[TboneLongshank]

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actually nerf up the f-15 they are considered the best jets in the world from what i heared i think i might state some more stuff A-10 should choose on what kind of rounds they want example anit-matieral anti-tank and personal..... why dont i just post the link for what im talking about or something like that
MK-82 (500 pound bomb)
MK-84 (2000 pound bomb)
MK77 incendiary
10 MK20 Rockeye II (4 - 6 standard load)
10 CBU-52 (4 - 6 standard load)
10 CBU-58 (4 - 6 standard load)
10 CBU-71 (4 - 6 standard load)
10 CBU-87 (4 - 6 standard load)
10 CBU-89 (4 - 6 standard load)
CBU-97
10 BL755 (4 - 6 standard load)
AGM-65 Maverick missiles
GBU-10 laser-guided bomb
GBU-12 laser-guided bomb
AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles

maybe all vehicles that hav different kind of rounds should hav the ability to choose like the Abram example it chooses a different round then the usaul (spelled wrong -.-) and so on etc.

I think you guys get the drift

P.S. here are those rounds i was talking about for the A-10

PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary [DU]
PGU-13/B HEI High Explosive Incendiary
PGU-15/B TP Target Practice <<<<<< except that one LOL

[Kapukluk]

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[QUOTE=Churrasco]OK, I am usually against all whining, but jets are very irritating so I couldn't help myself. There is not a vehicle or weapon in BF2 as powerful as a jet. Since day one, a lot of nerfs happened.

Grenade Launcher: I was not used to do it, this nerf now rendered the Assault class useless.
C4 Chucking: The thing I loved to do most as infantry, it's now gone. The freaking C4 detonation radius was also reduced.
No bunny hopping / jump and shoot: Basically one of the silliest nerfs against infantry
Attack choppers: Rocket (hydra) count, armor and TV missile range reduced. WTF?? Why didn't they just made choppers unable to fly?
Blackhawk: Goodbye to minigun of doom... The only needed nerf.

Other vehicles, including choppers, and infantry can be easily negated and are not valid threats that can kill jets in a regular basis.

Suggested fixes that can / should be used:

...
2. Jets should stall on low speeds. Seriously, you see people flying like 10 mph to strafe a chopper or drop bombs with 100% accuracy and this is retarded. This would decrease the my number of deaths against noob pilots, but still not a good fix for more skilled pilots (AKA jet whores).

QUOTE]
OK, I agree with the minigun of doom nerf. But why was the hydra count and TV guided missiles messed up bad. I used to shoot "into the abyss" with TV guided missiles at the enemy and wtfpwn them so hard it wasn't even funny. The attack choppers should just have their max amount of hydra's and hellfires/missiles.

[.Churr.]

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I am now venturing at jet whoring ... And guess what?
My suspicions are confirmed. The AA is so pathetic that you can shoot it down before they can say "OMFG Jet"

The Essex is a little better but still no match against the jet. Once the Essex or AA is down you have paved your way to baseraping the enemy. I am finally now on the other side and it is even sad to shoot down poor choppers.

Also it is funny how the J-10 can easily dodge A2A missiles and its huge dominance over the F-35B...

[=IAM=2BAD4U]

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Actually the solution is the same as was created with DC. A MOD that has Day 2 with no jets!

[Naku_vamp]

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well some balence needs done i noyticed teh j-10 is definally supior to all but i don't die from jets to often even when i fly and im not the best poilet but they are hard to take down and the anti air missles hardly ever hit there target even with helicopters they have to be hovering in spot almost to get a hit

[ScOpE]

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MK77 incendiary
10 MK20 Rockeye II (4 - 6 standard load)

OMG, that would be crazy, so we ground pounders can now choose between getting blown into a zillion little pieces, or fried to death lol.:cry:

Hell why don't we just equip the jets with H-bombs...

[Hurricane.CAD]

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Make the F-35's missiles not suck and makes its hitbox be smaller. Then it'll be fine.

[TboneLongshank]

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OMG, that would be crazy, so we ground pounders can now choose between getting blown into a zillion little pieces, or fried to death lol.:cry:

Hell why don't we just equip the jets with H-bombs...

i lawled xD

[2nd-Irish]

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I don't know about this whole imbalance thing...

I was playing Wake yesterday, and shot down 4 J-10's with an F-35 before an IGLA got me. I kept asking myself where this apparent imbalance was?

Then I was switched over however, got a J-10, and the raping really began. :p

[L3adcannon]

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OK, I am usually against all whining, but jets are very irritating so I couldn't help myself. There is not a vehicle or weapon in BF2 as powerful as a jet. Since day one, a lot of nerfs happened.

Grenade Launcher: I was not used to do it, this nerf now rendered the Assault class useless.
No bunny hopping / jump and shoot: Basically one of the silliest nerfs against infantry

Go play Quake, it was bunnyhopping, rocket jumping, all that bs in the game.