Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

[Lazy8s]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Yeah I think it's a good change in theory but it basically means the squad leaders job will be what it was intended to be: sit back out of sight and let people spawn on you. Trouble is you'll get no points and no one will want to do it.

[Strings9]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Yeah I think it's a good change in theory but it basically means the squad leaders job will be what it was intended to be: sit back out of sight and let people spawn on you. Trouble is you'll get no points and no one will want to do it.

Again! This is not LEADING it is FOLLOWING. If they get rid of squadhopping change the name from squadleader to spawn point. It will makes things even easier for you guys, cause thats what you all want, an easy, exploit-free game.

[LoganX]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

God...you people are so selfish and naive.
Squadhopping was an unintended side effect of the squad function.
It was never intended to work that way.
Now they're fixing it.
Boo Hoo...find some actual skills within the game instead of exploiting a game menu.

[Terroser]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

God...you people are so selfish and naive.
Squadhopping was an unintended side effect of the squad function.
It was never intended to work that way.
Now they're fixing it.
Boo Hoo...find some actual skills within the game instead of exploiting a game menu.

lol you are the noob !! kill/death ratio is worse

I got 1.80
I think you must learn how to play the game

[Strings9]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Yes, we know it was unintended, BUT it was also left unattended to by DICE/EA for a few patches. Lots of people got used to. Now its just like learning to play a completely different game. (I dont squadhop...but i do rotate SL within my ONE squad..) They should've made some kind of thing to where you have like 10 seconds in the beginning of the round or something to choose a squad. You then are to stay in that squad, not leave and join another. BUT you could leave and join your squad again to help rotate SL a little bit. This will help you work with your one squad the whole time. (This is targeted at Pub/PuG games, clan matches are a totally different Battlefield) Go ahead and flame and such, i really dont care anymore.

[AlphaCueUp]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

you should be able to hand-over the squad-leader role to another squad-member via the 'manage squad' tab

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

I think that the reason that little or no controversy has been generated is because no one is really surprised at the radical changes made to date. I would even dare to say that some people just dont care anymore. They will be moving onto new games in the coming months. With so many mods on the horizon, BF2 may end up fading. :dead:

I love the idea and spirit of BF2. The ability to have armor, jets, helos, infantry, artillery it is one of the absolute greatest concepts in all gaming history to date. It is a shame that the game has been restricted in so many ways in order to please so few people. This game started as something that definitely required some skill to play. With so many things going on at once, it is not for everyone, the learning curve was definitely steep. Unfortunately it has been turned into another run and gun video game with virtually no learning curve. Maybe someday someone will come along with a better formula and not compromise their vision of a game to suit everyone from 8-88 years of age.:thatsbad:

Too many complaints about this exploit and that exploit and not enough attention paid to the real nature of the game. When a developer begins to make sweeping changes to the game you in order to resolve ethical issues that are more easily resolved by the individual gamer then you know the ship is sinking fast. I am all for fair and balanced game play, but then again why are you going to make the entire community pay for something that only a few are doing? WHy not select another server, find a reputable gaming community. No one is forcing the players that cry exploit every 2 seconds to stay on a server. Why not rent your own server and run it like a USMC boot camp if that makes you happy. I did not want to enjoy the game less because someone cannot learn to fly or because someone cannot resist the urge to spawn into a place with2 enemy tanks are waiting for them...:shakehead

I've never seen any video game company do this before, and over all it's just shocking in some ways. Usually if a game is too hard or too complicated the company says..."learn to play it or find another videogame". Not here. This is the complete opposite. Oh the game is too hard? Ok, lets change the helos and the player movements and the physics and everything else so everyone can play it whether they are experienced or just starting out. Personally, I enjoy learning a difficult game and getting better at it. :wall:

Go ahead and flame away....I really dont care.:box:

I stopped right here, I'll read the rest and then edit to comment. I just had to stop and give this guy a right on, and quote for truth.

Actually, nevermind I don't have to read other peoples opinions. Squadhopping is a dynamic that requires the very essence of this game...TEAMWORK. and it requires the very essence of this game....TEAMWORK to counter it. If a team is defending correctly, the enemy can hip to the hop to the hippity hop all day, and all it's going to do is bring the front lines closer, faster. But when the commander spots one lone guy making his way to the back, and the tanks just go olling right by on their way to go camp the point farm, er, Hotel (in Kark) than it's the TEAMS fault one guy got through, and created a squad, and now they are losing the back bases, the TEAM is to blame, not the game, the TEAM.

IF this is true, it is another prime example of EA/DICE bowing to the vocal few that can't compete. Those that can, do, those that can't cry to EA till it gets changed.

[imported_Scarz]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Personaly, I'm all for getting rid of exploits of any kind. And yes, squad hopping is an exploit.

This is NOT to say that I dont use it... I'm not going to be a hypocrite here, and say that I dont use exploits because I'm morally opposed to them or anything like that because I do. You have to to stay competetive.

But I certainly wouldn't shead any tears if it went away.

[LoganX]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

lol you are the noob !! kill/death ratio is worse

I got 1.80
I think you must learn how to play the game

I primarily Pilot Attack Choppers so my KD would naturally be lower than a n00b t00bing/Squad Hopping/PKM whoring/Grenade Spamming/bunny hopping/dolphin diving ground pounder.

Meet me in the Air.

And just because it was left unattended doesn't mean it was meant to exist OR that they weren't contemplating a fix for it.

[PHPT]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

I'll believe it when I see it. Between this and WoW I've seen a tremendous load of fake patch notes, and if there's one dead giveaway, it's one overelaborate change that seems much, much more complicated than anything ever added in a simple patch. Like humvee drops.

Bottom line is: If they sound real, except for one stupidly-obvious thing, they're all fake. If they're not leaked in the same list exact list format used by the developers, complete with correct choice of words and spelling, they're fake. If they look and sound totally legit, then there's about a 10% chance they're real, because not too many people are dumb enough to risk breaking NDA, losing their job, and getting sued over leaking notes for a minor patch.

[Strings9]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

IF this is true, it is another prime example of EA/DICE bowing to the vocal few that can't compete. Those that can, do, those that can't cry to EA till it gets changed.

Beautiful....I got teary-eyed

[LoganX]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

People will compete no matter how the game is implemented.
IMO it's the comp people who are crying because now they have to adjust their playstyle.

All of the people who don't use these types of lame exploitive tactics can go along playing they same way we have been. We don't have to change our style of play to accommodate the removal of squad hopping.

Didn't think of it that way did you?

[Alcorr]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Actually, nevermind I don't have to read other peoples opinions. Squadhopping is a dynamic that requires the very essence of this game...TEAMWORK. and it requires the very essence of this game....TEAMWORK to counter it. If a team is defending correctly, the enemy can hip to the hop to the hippity hop all day, and all it's going to do is bring the front lines closer, faster. But when the commander spots one lone guy making his way to the back, and the tanks just go olling right by on their way to go camp the point farm, er, Hotel (in Kark) than it's the TEAMS fault one guy got through, and created a squad, and now they are losing the back bases, the TEAM is to blame, not the game, the TEAM.

Exactly, a squad leader dying and then rejoining was completely counterable, just use your UAV to kill every guy nearby.

And im not completely sure how this is going to change, but alot of times, I switch squads often because many times the squad leader I join is total crap or isn't fighting in the area I want to fight in etc...

EDIT: I was never a squad hopper, but although its an unintended side effect of the squad system, it was never entirely bad or anywhere near uncounterable.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

People will compete no matter how the game is implemented.
IMO it's the comp people who are crying because now they have to adjust their playstyle.

All of the people who don't use these types of lame exploitive tactics can go along playing they same way we have been. We don't have to change our style of play to accommodate the removal of squad hopping.

Didn't think of it that way did you?

I think of everything. Hate to burst your bubble, but there are competent players that both use the tactics people whine about, and tactics people accept with equal talent. Once EA/DICE have patched the game to the whiners end, what are they going to be complaining about when they are still getting their butts handed to them?

They need to stop wasting their time and resources catering to those that can't, and fix the same bugs that they have promised to fix that have infected this game since it's beginning. It's time to stop playing public relations with the kiddies and fix the product. I am far sicker of firing AT rounds straight through HUMVEEs, TV's through attack choppers, being TKed because I am redtag bugged, than I am of having guys spawning on random squadleader closer to my bullets.

[Alcorr]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

They need to stop wasting their time and resources catering to those that can't, and fix the same bugs that they have promised to fix that have infected this game since it's beginning. It's time to stop playing public relations with the kiddies and fix the product. I am far sicker of firing AT rounds straight through HUMVEEs, TV's through attack choppers, being TKed because I am redtag bugged, than I am of having guys spawning on random squadleader closer to my bullets.

AMEN to that!