Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

[Blackhearted]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

i have hopes that the PKM will be rebalanced in 1.21... surely they have some ingame stats that show the amount of PKM users and kills peaking drastically since 1.2 in relation to anything else, and even if they dont posess the ability to understand what they have done surely the out of balance statistics will paint them a picture.

...but knowing dice, in 1.21 the PKM will fire heat-seeking ERYX rockets in full auto that heal/revive any friendly infantry in proximity to their flightpath.

[SlakTSP]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Lol this is so true, I dont even use assault anymore when fighting (larger ammo per mag, inf ammo, inf grenades). But the gun is just so unebelievably powerful.

As Planewhore already said, the 100 mag is VERY important becuase you can go into a fight vs 5 other guys and never need to reload. Whats more, it will absolutely dominate ANYONE in a prone vs standing situation. The other day on Strike of Kark I waste a full squad that tried sneaking around with just my PKM.

Unloaded on the first 3, hopped up tossed a grenade (killed the medic), ran back out proned and killed the last one. And i was like "Did I just do that?" Hell I'm not even that great of a player, but when im getting about 30-40 PPG with assault but 70-90 PPG with pure support whoring, I know SOMETHING is up.



As a sniper gun tho its incredibly effective. You dont need much more than a head poking over a wall to score a kill, no weapon prepatch could match that. Hell does this gun (or any gun for that matter) have bullet drop?

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Headshots or fire coming in from other directions. I also noticed he had a couple damage assists. There were teammates firing into the same location.

Don't argue this point. It's a hard number that you can look up yourself by opening the files.

I can say with the utmost confidence that I've never had to shoot a player more than 3 times to kill them. The two obvious exceptions being someone sitting next to a supply crate getting healed, or a medic holding his bag.

[^nUbl4z0r(!)]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

FRIKIN HELL!!! 0wn4g3 !!! I could do that if i didnt have so much lag...

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

I can say with the utmost confidence that I've never had to shoot a player more than 3 times to kill them. The two obvious exceptions being someone sitting next to a supply crate getting healed, or a medic holding his bag.

Whoop. I just realised something...

The PKM can shoot through fences. I think it's got the same penatration flag as the M95. This would mean yer right... it ignores body armour and only ever takes 3 shots to kill.

I'm gonna go test this just fer fun.
Edit: Aw, spit. Forgot you can't use unlocks in SP and I don't have a bud to call on ATM to come help me test. We need someone to shoot an armoured dude with the PKM and see howmany rounds it takes to drop 'em. If this penetration flag IS set, then yeah... PKM is even more of a monster than suspected.

[Nanoaug]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

average aim, nothing special. Nobody was even sprinting, except for 1 guy running more or less parallel to you, which is an easy kill. those people had a million opportunities to kill you but failed miserably

I still agree that the PKM is overpowered though

[Ghilleman]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

huh. that is an overpowered gun. im suprised that EA/DICE put all this effort into realism...and then did this...

[imported_Wreck]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Hell does this gun (or any gun for that matter) have bullet drop?

All weapon projectiles have bullet drop due to gravity in this game.

[sumguyhavinfun]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

...but knowing dice, in 1.21 the PKM will fire heat-seeking ERYX rockets in full auto that heal/revive any friendly infantry in proximity to their flightpath.

and drop grenades on the enemy.

:p



should be a BF2 mod.

[PHPT]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

As Planewhore already said, the 100 mag is VERY important becuase you can go into a fight vs 5 other guys and never need to reload. Whats more, it will absolutely dominate ANYONE in a prone vs standing situation. The other day on Strike of Kark I waste a full squad that tried sneaking around with just my PKM.

The PKM is SUPPOSED to own up close, all of the support guns are. You don't complain about getting smacked down by the Jackhammer or DAO. It is THE close-range gun, one of the best for smashing defenses and killing a squad with a medic.

The fact that they buffed the accuracy so far above even the most accurate assault rifles and the QBZ is the problem.

It's not a replacement for an assault rifle by any means, otherwise. It's VERY inaccurate while moving and takes a long time to regain accuracy from movement. In other words, you can't really run-and-gun with it very well.

And come on, proning works with assault rifles too, just because you don't HAVE to doesn't mean you're not going to confuse and tear open someone by doing it. Try it some time!

[Cornbread Mafia]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

You can't compare a vehicle that is limited to 1 or 2 tops per team, to an infantry kit that can be picked by an unlimited number of infantry. Sorry.

It is that kind of sorry attitude that got planes nerfed in the first places... HUH WHAT A MILLION DOLLAR AIRCRAFT KILLING MORE PEOPLE THAN MY TINY PROJECTILE WEAPON??? HOW?????

An unbalance would be having 2 or 3 objects in a game, like Jets, that can basicly kill mass people with out any competition; while only being available to a select few. Such as those that get into a game faster due to a better system and connection, or people that Teamkill.. That is Unbalance...

The PKM is available to anyone, so it is balanced to the game...

[sidtherat]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

PKM is overpowered, mg36 would have been, if DICE didnt do the booboo with the 10 deviation - im almost sure that this is a TYPO, not intended value - 1.0 makes sense, 10 makes not

anyone who uses assault these days, and uses it for their gun is simply playing some kind of maso-game - pkm OWNS any riffle in any situation - all who dont agree are a) going full auto with pkm and claiming 'it doesnt work' b) hypocrits that use pkm all the time and will do everything to not have it nerfed again

people who say, that running and gunning with pkm does not work are all wrong. it works very well. alleys of karkand or ghost town are full of pkm'ers
play some SF maps, and see yourself - support is at least 40% of all players

i very much like changes done to support, but.. guys.. come on, pkm and mg36 are overdone - no support weapon should be accurate when not proned.

as for the recoil - recoil is the function of ie. mass. pkm is heavy, so in real life, it has lower recoil than lighter gun of the same calibre. support guns should have low recoil.

all in all this game is starting to be great - medics have better guns than assualt class, and are played like so, spec op is better at destroying tanks than AntiTank class, who is quite good in CQC combat, CQC combat is also one of the main uses for engineer, with his 900rpm water gun, or choice of death-star-calibre shotguns
and on top of it sits the sniper, king of the claymorefileds, and support, king of the full auto snipers

good, that they cant kill tanks, yet

[SlakTSP]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

An unbalance would be having 2 or 3 objects in a game, like Jets, that can basicly kill mass people with out any competition; while only being available to a select few. Such as those that get into a game faster due to a better system and connection, or people that Teamkill.. That is Unbalance...

The PKM is available to anyone, so it is balanced to the game...

Thats pretty dumb logic...

C4 throwing was available to everyone
Planes were available to both side
Noobtubing was for everyone

When a support guy is doing assault work theres an imbalance.

[tsh2005]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Headshots or fire coming in from other directions. I also noticed he had a couple damage assists. There were teammates firing into the same location.

Don't argue this point. It's a hard number that you can look up yourself by opening the files.

Edit

opss

You already proved yourself wrong :p

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Edit

opss

You already proved yourself wrong :p

Well... one can't claim to be "smart" if one can't admit on'es mistakes.

Still, the number is 3 shots to take someone down. Not two... unless one is a headshot.
:p
I haven't managed to test to see if PKM rounds really are AP or not. Tricky to get anyone to stand still long enough to do propper testing in pubs.

I guess I'll just have ta whore that gun some more.