Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

[imported_Underpant]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

You guys are WAY too skeptical. There is talking going on in a lot of the video+ the "enemy boat spotted"s, and all of the usernames check out. Also it's nowhere near the behavior of bots. Play single player and observe.

[Dilla_Incognito]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

HAHAHAHA, thats where i camp on mashtuur...

good job giving away a trade secret... :p

[MrBenis]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

The closer I look, the more it seems that this is the case.

Aside from a distinct lack of the usual chat spam, I also notice a questionable absence of clan tags.

Very odd.
Puts a dent in credibility.

Im thinking the credibility is still intact, single player or no, the PKM is a bitchin weapon in the hands of the right man. Since patch 1.2 my kills with support LMG has sky-rocketed 1400+ kills for a measly 300 deaths.

I applaud this awakening.

[tsh2005]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

lol who said they are bots? guess you never played single player before :)

defend the pkm why? it is a little overdone.. guess people defending it are people who play it.. it will get changed again

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Whoops. I took a closer look and did see some clan tags in there.
My bad. Still odd that I don't see the expected chat spam. Someone did claim to have spotted mobile AA, which we all know doesn't exist on Mash.
Thus, I could well be off base.
*shrug*

Doesn't matter.

I think the support weapons could use a bit of tweaking, but nothing over dramatic. Infact, I'd rather see the other weapons (specificly assualt) brought up to the level of the Sniper and Support. Both of these weapons now feel *right*, but their relation to other weapos feels a bit off.

My fix suggestions:
Increase standing and crouch min deviation.
Impose a slight delay on prone acc boost.
Increase acc on the G3.
Increase blast radius of the grenade launchers.

Get a commander that's smart enough to spot guys who are in nasty little places like PW was using! Preferably someone who will also just drop arty on PW no matter what he's doing.

[Harpoon84]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Great shooting man!

Though I have to say those people that you shot had NO idea about your nest did they?

I often use that spot myself to defend the flag, but I always seem to get hit by arty sooner or later and then either the chopper is taken or the chopper flag is taken... oh well.

It seems more and more people are using that spot now though, especially clan members... it's good and bad because their heads sticking over the edge make great sniping targets, but with the SL staying back it is just impossible to kill them all unless your commander arties them, which many NOOB commanders won't do for some reason. Either that or they wait 1/2 round before deciding to listen to our complaints!

[Keith Maniac]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

I just had a similar round in Mashtuur, although I was a medic. I was really suprised how long I survived up there with my support squadmates. There weren't that many shots even fired on us. Enemy commander could've taken us out with a single arty-strike but I guess nobody informed their commander about us. I was killed eventually after I got bored and went alone to cap the flag in Rambo-style

I don't really see any "problem" in that video regarding the PKM since the other team has PKMs, grenade launchers and jeep MGs and arty strike(s). The problem on that video was the opposing team that got NOTHING done.

No wonder someone suspects that the video is from singleplayer :).

[2graphik]

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If it is singleplayer, then I would REALLY like to know how in the heck you got rank icons to appear.

Nice video. "INITIATE ANTI-VEHICLE MODE! ... Or not." You got some serious skills with the DAKKA DAKKA gun.

[F-1]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

The only problem with the PKM is that it has a very low recoil. it should recoil more than the G3/Ak101/AK47.. etc. it should have the largest recoil in the whole game. Having a very accurate single shot is ok. The recoil of the PKM is less than the G36C which means that who ever did this in DICE was out of his mind.

I once saw someone using the M16A2 to do the same thing on Fushe Pass. It was very annoying and the guy made a lot of kills. the only way to get rid of him was to get in an APC and look for him. I finally got him. searching for someone like that is not easy if you do not have snipers rifle or a good commander. The guy on the roof will most probably spot you before you spot him.

You could do the same thing with the G36C or any sniper's rifle.

The deadly thing in that video was the technique and the position and the stupidity of the other team. If I get killed by the same camping guy several times in a row then I will just spawn as a sniper or get an armored vehicle. What is even more bothering is the medic who kept trying to revive a dead teammate under fire.

One more thing: the server was a 64 players server. if you hide in a good spot then you can have a lot of kills.

[vbl]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

The only problem with the PKM is that it has a very low recoil. it should recoil more than the G3/Ak101/AK47.. etc. it should have the largest recoil in the whole game. Having a very accurate single shot is ok. The recoil of the PKM is less than the G36C which means that who ever did this in DICE was out of his mind.

Yes. Anyone who doesn't grasp this should use the SAW for a comparison of recoil.

(The other problem is time-to-shoot accurately, which is instant when going prone.)

[Harpoon84]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

No offence but those 'clan members' are kinda n00bish. I'm surprised you lasted so long up there, the PKM makes a heck of a racket, plus its tracer bullets gives away your position pretty easily.

Look, I'm sure you have great aim, it's obvious from the video, but the fact is the people you played against in that round were utter n00bs.

On the servers that I play on people smart up to this trick real quick and very soon there will be a few sniper crosshairs on your head. You may kill a lot of guys quickly but you can't kill them ALL. Sooner or later someone will nail you in the head with a sniper rifle.

That spot is getting pretty well known nowadays anyway, it's not as effective as it was a few months ago for the surprise factor, clan members use it all the time and it's annoying because while they make great sniping targets you can't finish them all off without an arty strike. Sounds simple enough but you'll be amazed how stupid most commanders are.

[tsh2005]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

what skill are you guys talking about? The pkm has such high fire power you just have to hit 2 or 3 times...... He could of also just spam nades beacuse they go so far now

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Actually, it's 3 or 4 times (unarmoured/unarmoured)... barring headshots and previous damage. Same number of rounds to kill a healthy target as the G3.

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Sorry Harpoon but judging by your response you missed the point of the video. It could easily be confused as a "Wheee look at me!" video, as they certainly are a dime a dozen. I'd rather you pay attention how I'm able to accurately shoot and kill people that are literally represented by a handful of pixels on my screen, and within a few shots using the PKM. Simply put, no other gun can snipe like that, and then work up close just as effectively as the best rifles and shotguns.

The only class that should be capable of that kind of punishment at range is the sniper, but at the moment the PKM is lethal at sniping distances with ease, and in my opinion is superior at range when compared to an actual sniper rifle.

The one thing this video didn't cover, and in hindsight it would've made it a little more complete of a statement, but I really should've included some close up Karkand style footage with me dropping to a crouch or prone with or without ironsights and lay down three or four people with an easy-mode spray. All weapons should have strengths and weaknesses, and in reality very few of the weapons had ever achieved this nirvana of balance in BF2. However the PKM is the first weapon that has exceeded my threshold for tolerance of imbalance.

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Actually, it's 3 or 4 times (unarmoured/unarmoured)... barring headshots and previous damage. Same number of rounds to kill a healthy target as the G3.

PKM kills in one headshot (I think, but not certain), and I am certain it will never take more than three shots to kill someone (45 damage per round). That puts the average at about two shots per kills, which is just as good as the SVD damage wise.