Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

PKM is the first weapon that has exceeded my threshold for tolerance of imbalance.

Other than planes, that is.
:p

[Blackhearted]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

rofl. the long-range sniping is rediculous. ive used the new PKM to much success, but ive never actually attempted shots at those insane ranges because i thought there was no way in hell it would be that accurate.

the min deviation should definitely be increased. an LMG was never meant to be a sniper rifle, or even perform like a scoped or accurate assault rifle. it was meant to deliver a steady and powerful stream of bullets in a more or less accurate area. the old PKM couldnt hit the side of a barn but the new one is just a full-auto sniper rifle with a 100-shot clip. the min deviation needs to be increased and max deviation lowered, so that it is still effective at most ranges in burst fire mode and can also lay down a huge amount of suppressing fire relatively accurately in full auto.

what i find absolutely f#cking rediculous is that in CQC a suppport player can dive and be firing while he is diving - by the time he hits the ground i am dead, no matter what weapon i am armed with. with most weapons it doesnt even matter if you get the first shots off - they can turn/dive/fire and you die instantly. its a f#cking joke.

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Other than planes, that is.
:p

You can't compare a vehicle that is limited to 1 or 2 tops per team, to an infantry kit that can be picked by an unlimited number of infantry. Sorry.

It is that kind of sorry attitude that got planes nerfed in the first places... HUH WHAT A MILLION DOLLAR AIRCRAFT KILLING MORE PEOPLE THAN MY TINY PROJECTILE WEAPON??? HOW?????

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

[quote=PlaneWhore]Yeah because a couple missed shots really matters a lot with a hundred round clip, apparently you still don't get why the PKM is the best weapon in the game.

2. PKM sniping isn;'t new, I used to do it pre-1.2 and I have demos to back it up.

Post the demo files and we'll see, however I get the feeling you're going to accidentally lose them. I used the PKM (granted, not very much since I hadn't unlocked it) but generally speaking if you were at the ranges I was at with the 1.12 PKM it would be pretty much useless. At the very least you'd be much better off with a G36C or any number of other weapons.



Not every weapon can snipe (jackhammer?), but quite a few weapons can. However PKM is the only one of those weapons with a 0.1 deviation, 100 round clip, and 45 damage per round.



Teach yourself, retard.

give me a space and I will gladly upload my demo.

also, you been crying a lot since 1.2, and good players rarely cry.

[tsh2005]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

So people here defending the pkm.... do you play a lot of support now? Not hard to tell it needs a little tweaking. Many things in 1.2 went overkilled.. Looks like they didnt really test at all

[Blackhearted]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Other than planes, that is.
:p

i hated pre-1.2 planes, but they were easily avoided - just dont play maps that have them. play karkand, mashtuur, warlord, etc.
the PKM cannot be avoided. every damned server i join these days has at least 50% of the players using the PKM. it literally makes me sick.
somehow i dont think that when this game was made EA/Dice intended 50% of the players to play as support. not to mention that the other half is snipers spamming claymores at spawns, and medics racking up points reviving all the claymore and PKM victims. i look on the server playerlist and im the only AT guy in a sea of support, medics and snipers. the ironic thing is that these were meant to be the least played, support classes.

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

PKM kills in one headshot (I think, but not certain), and I am certain it will never take more than three shots to kill someone (45 damage per round). That puts the average at about two shots per kills, which is just as good as the SVD damage wise.

http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/unlocks/pkm

Nope. 3 for soft targets, 4 for armoured ones.
1 headshot kills... but that's the same for most rifles.

Doesn't really matter much. I actually agree that the PKM is a little outta the zone.

As I previously mentioned, I'd rather see it mildly reduced in effectivness (espesially when standing, crouching, or from the hip), than to see a general nerf.

Ramp up the effectiveness of the assualt kit 'n thing would be happier.

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

You can't compare a vehicle that is limited to 1 or 2 tops per team, to an infantry kit that can be picked by an unlimited number of infantry. Sorry.

It is that kind of sorry attitude that got planes nerfed in the first places... HUH WHAT A MILLION DOLLAR AIRCRAFT KILLING MORE PEOPLE THAN MY TINY PROJECTILE WEAPON??? HOW?????

Hehe.
I was kiddin dude.
Unbunch your panties a little willya?

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Hehe.
I was kiddin dude.
Unbunch your panties a little willya?

I know, but sadly a lot of people actually believe what you just said, and take that point of view seriously.

I can rack up, maybe 25 kills low end on a round with a PKM, and around 50-55 kills on the high end. Most pilots in the servers I frequent struggle to reach the 20-25 kill mark, and rarely go higher. And of course, I'm getting flag captures, neutralize, kill assists, resupply points ect.

I'll take 60 PKM wielding infantry over 4 planes any day of the week.

[Harpoon84]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Sorry Harpoon but judging by your response you missed the point of the video...

What was your point exactly? That the PKM is too accurate? It probably is a bit too accurate for a support gun, but then again I don't mind it too much actually, sure I've been mowed down more by the PKM since the patch but the accuracy of it pre 1.2 was a joke as well.

It seems Dice has overdone it a little accuracy wise, just as they did with the G36C, but I still rarely get 'outsniped' by a PKM wielding foe, mainly because I play sniper a lot and usually have the upper hand in location/cover and the element of surprise.

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

I know, but sadly a lot of people actually believe what you just said, and take that point of view seriously.

I can rack up, maybe 25 kills low end on a round with a PKM, and around 50-55 kills on the high end. Most pilots in the servers I frequent struggle to reach the 20-25 kill mark, and rarely go higher. And of course, I'm getting flag captures, neutralize, kill assists, resupply points ect.

I'll take 60 PKM wielding infantry over 4 planes any day of the week.

now what's wrong with that? YOU CAN GET 50 kills with PKM, but you can get more with planes. Common pilots struggle with PKM

[tsh2005]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Wargimp he was killing people in that vid with just 2 shots. Some AT with just 3 shots. So planewhore is either hitting the head every other time he fires or its a little stronger then what you said

How much damage does it make with one shot?... People in that vid just spawned they could have already had some damage but who knows.

Someone make a vid with the pkm and show how much one shot in the chest/head etc gives to another player.. 5 bars-8bars etc.. I would but dont have anything to make a vid with

[imported_Wreck]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

It seems Dice has overdone it a little accuracy wise, just as they did with the G36C

I'd say the accuracy of all other weapons except the support, sniper and spec ops, are underdone.

[WarGimp]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

Wargimp he was killing people in that vid with just 2 shots. Some AT with just 3 shots. So planewhore is either hitting the head every other time he fires or its a little stronger then what you said

Headshots or fire coming in from other directions. I also noticed he had a couple damage assists. There were teammates firing into the same location.

Don't argue this point. It's a hard number that you can look up yourself by opening the files.

[Blackhearted]

Re: Rooftop Camping PKM Style, now with video.

I know, but sadly a lot of people actually believe what you just said, and take that point of view seriously.

I can rack up, maybe 25 kills low end on a round with a PKM, and around 50-55 kills on the high end. Most pilots in the servers I frequent struggle to reach the 20-25 kill mark, and rarely go higher. And of course, I'm getting flag captures, neutralize, kill assists, resupply points ect.

I'll take 60 PKM wielding infantry over 4 planes any day of the week.

rofl.
60 PKM wielding infantry could even down planes effectively :)

a guy tried to take out my tank with a PKM last night. goes to show you how unbelievable cocky they are with their new super-n00b weapon.
i was driving down an alley and this guy flops on his belly in the middle of the road in front of me and goes full auto on my tank with the PKM. i was so shocked i just stared at the little guy for like 5 seconds, then blasted the bugger 30ft in the air. unf#ckingbelievable.