Hate BF2 1.2

[maranello]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

If you seriously think that a good pilot won't kill anyone and have no fun after this patch, pm me your xfire, we ll play a few rounds together and i ll show you that is not true.

[Lugal317]

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Thast just one of the examples. I greet this. Seriosuly. Going head on into a STA site while STA has a lock on you shouldnt leave you alive. BUT; if youre evading and moving off and you cant shake the missiles no matter what. THAT is the problem Im talking about. THAT is what you have yet to realize. Even though various people have presented this problem to you.

He's not lying... If you haven't tried the patch, you really can't talk. It is absurd.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Problem was/is, that a person with 500 hours in AA still couldn't take out a jet..

I dont know about that. I can take down jets with AA. Not on a regular basis. And I agree that jets had always at any given moment the upper hand against AAs, except Essex. But people with practice at AAs, could down jets and choppers MORE often than those who prefered to jump in, shoot and jump off.

[Cornbread Mafia]

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LOL. Thats just ignorant and stupid.

A bomber pilot aims his bombs at "something" obvious. Just stay away from that something and youre cool. if you DONT. Then you being killed is your own fault. And driving a vehicle out in the open is SUPPOSED to get you killed.

Show me a place on a map where you are not out in the open for a jet, especially in a vehicle? And capping flag is a part of teh game. When a flag is being capped you get instant jets bombning the area, and you had no AA to defend against it...

And chill with the ignorant and stupid BS. I have zero patient for that crap. You want to debate this topic, then do so with some respect, else STFU..

[Azriel]

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A bomber pilot aims his bombs at "something" obvious. Just stay away from that something and youre cool. if you DONT. Then you being killed is your own fault. And driving a vehicle out in the open is SUPPOSED to get you killed.

OK, so stay out of vehicals, stay away from flags, stay away from AA batteries, stay away from your squad...and your cool. Oh, and if possible take the tunnel, don't drive in the open, which is 95% of the map...Gotcha.

[Tsimi]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Where the hell could you guys download the new 1.2 patch??
The official site says coming very soon...final stage...bla,bla,bla...but no download available yet.

[maranello]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Thast just one of the examples. I greet this. Seriosuly. Going head on into a STA site while STA has a lock on you shouldnt leave you alive. BUT; if youre evading and moving off and you cant shake the missiles no matter what. THAT is the problem Im talking about. THAT is what you have yet to realize. Even though various people have presented this problem to you.

A good jet pilot never flies over the battlefield close to the ground looking for someone to kill. You are lucky there is a good fog (clouds maybe) factor in the game. So if you fly a few hundred feet above the ground, AA wont get a lock on you most of the time. What you need to do is to fly high, watch your minimap, make short divings where there is activity, and immediately pull up.

You know how they would dogfight 20 feet above the ground trying to shoot down the Mig bomber and expected to stay alive once AA had a lock on them? That was plain stupid.

Planes are supposed to fly high where the AA won't be able to detect them very easily.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

If you seriously think that a good pilot won't kill anyone and have no fun after this patch, pm me your xfire, we ll play a few rounds together and i ll show you that is not true.

No, Im not worrying about this. Great pilots will still rack scores. They will be just a LOT more cautios and a whole new atmosphere will be created. I just dont feel like its fair that a n00b AAer can take out a "pro" pilot with little to no effort.

[maranello]

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No, Im not worrying about this. Great pilots will still rack scores. They will be just a LOT more cautios and a whole new atmosphere will be created. I just dont feel like its fair that a n00b AAer can take out a "pro" pilot with little to no effort.

He won't

[froschquetscher]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

no guys, not even the best pilots survive. the air is dead.

[WarGimp]

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Everyone has less than 10 hours doing anything in 1.2.

How can you claim to be a vetern pilot in a totally new enviroment?

Rather than complaining, go see what ya can do to stay alive in the sky. Come back with 100 hours of 1.2 experiance, then we can give ya yer credibility.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Show me a place on a map where you are not out in the open for a jet, especially in a vehicle? And capping flag is a part of teh game. When a flag is being capped you get instant jets bombning the area, and you had no AA to defend against it...

And chill with the ignorant and stupid BS. I have zero patient for that crap. You want to debate this topic, then do so with some respect, else STFU..

You gave me attitude first, son. You have zero rights to bitch about my attitude now.

Although capping a flag is a part of the game, many flags have bunkers right near them you can take cover in. Also. Most pilots will not kill that tank/APC with one shot.

A good jet pilot never flies over the battlefield close to the ground looking for someone to kill. You are lucky there is a good fog (clouds maybe) factor in the game. So if you fly a few hundred feet above the ground, AA wont get a lock on you most of the time. What you need to do is to fly high, watch your minimap, make short divings where there is activity, and immediately pull up.

You know how they would dogfight 20 feet above the ground trying to shoot down the Mig bomber and expected to stay alive once AA had a lock on them? That was plain stupid.

Planes are supposed to fly high where the AA won't be able to detect them very easily.

Thats how I imagine things would be now. Planes being more depending on the ground forces and playing more of a support than offensive role. Which is definitely a CHANGE. In the end, its all going to be different. A part of me suspects games will get more interesting. Both for jets and for infantry because calling in a jet for support will mean something.

And Azriel, its not THAT bad. Personally, even though somewhat mastering precision bombing, I never got a 100 nor even 50% kill rate against a tank. A jet is not an all seeing all killing bad guy.


Maranello

He won't

Seriously. Start reading posts. You even have a video presented on HOW the missiles work now. Thats just terrifying.

[Acentric]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

The airpower has been taken down like a flag getting capped by 8 guys. Anything that is shooting up at anything flying, mainly the AA and IGLA rape it. It switched from being TO MUCH aircontrol to TO MUCH ground control, but i for one think this is pretty good, they could of made it more balanced, like why take the 14 missiles from the choppers, 8 bearly last. Still good though, no need to quite, just adapt, the strong will survive the weak WILL die off, EVOLUTION (change).

[Flares]

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Problem was/is, that a person with 500 hours in AA still couldn't take out a jet..

I've ten hours using Iglas and Stingers, with 450 kills. Many of those are jets. It's not easy but it's possible. Using sams took a little skill and knowledge, now it seems Dice have pandered to the cry babies, making them point and shoot.
For those complaining that in real life Iglas/Stingers take down jets easily, they're wrong. Against slow moving helos and big aircraft, they're rather effective, but against fast jets they're very, very inaccurate. I'm looking forward to flying to see just how bad things seem to be. Hopefully those of us with 100s of hours of sim time will be able to cope OK.

[Lugal317]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

As arnold schwarzzenegger would say....

"I hope you're ready for a big suprise"