Don't nerf the Blackhawk

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  • SmilingRaccoon

    #61
    Blackhawks dont require teamwork, they are easy nouf to kill, the weapons might be a bit over powered but who cares. Theres no point in whining since in less then a month EA is probly gonna nerf them so bad they will become useless asides from simple troop transport.

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    • Gerbera345

      #62
      Truely the inclusion of the miniguns on the UH-60 seems to be one of the main reasons folks bring it up, they have a much higher effective damage potential than the weapons mounted on the Mi-8 and the Chinese Transport. I think if the Black Hawk was revamped into it's actual common form and armed with .50cal MG's or standard MG's a lot of the noise about it would cease. It always weirded me that the Black Hawk has those miniguns and that any of the Transport Helos can take a 125mm tank shell and still remain operational.

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      • watler

        #63
        true, maybe we could end this by giving the blackhawk m60's and instead of the .50's the MEC/chinese choppers could get standard 7.62x54r PKMs

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        • Combined

          #64
          One simple solution: add more stinger & IGLA nests on "blackhawk maps" such as Mashtuur. Even one would be enough on Mashtuur, in front of the mosque in the small pit.

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          • fraidtofight

            #65
            Guys who say that the black hawk is over powered, try getting anywhere on a map like gulf of oman or daquing oil fields. You wont be in the air for more than 10 seconds before you are shot down by an attack helicopter or suicided by a jet. The blackhawk is succesful in areas that it should be. One infantry man in a city shouldnt be able to take it out, he should get mowed down by the mini guns

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            • Leviathan

              #66
              Originally posted by SmilingRaccoon
              all they need to do is make it so you cant repair the blackhawk from inside
              ^^right on. As it is right now, a couple engs can repair it just about as fast as a couple ATs can damage it.

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              • imported_Spuddy
                Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 1242

                #67
                - Make the guns overheat a little faster.
                - Reduce the strength slightly.
                - Improve the Chinese/MEC choppers.

                I'd be happy with the above changes.

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                • Tenshi

                  #68
                  Ive only been killed by a blackhawk once or twice...i dont really concider them a specific problem.

                  The miniguns are very powerful...but again ive only been killed by them a couple of times. I have noticed people get rediculous scores while riding them though.

                  Maybe engineers should only be able to repair them to, say, 50% or something.

                  As for capturing flags with helos...i dont mind. Maybe they could extend the time it takes to capture a flag from in a vehicle compared to the time it would take on foot. Which would reduce the amount of flag hopping...which has to be the most BORING way to play the game...fs snipers get grief...

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                  • MetalChris092781

                    #69
                    The real BH miniguns are only 7.62mm...they're obviously way overpowered in this game.

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                    • regal7788

                      #70
                      don't matter for me, if i'm up against a blackhawk, i find myself a medic kit and once it passes by, get all the revive points..heh

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                      • Patrone

                        #71
                        Maybe all the guns on transporthelos should be removed - let the passengers shoot with their own handguns.

                        All these threads in all the forums worldwide (guess it must be over 10.000 in number worldwide) about the BH end up the same. There are 2 sides - the blackwhores and the blackwhored. Both sides bring up good critics but also a lot of ********.

                        Just 1 time i was in a squad with battlecom on a BH. I was an engineer playing with the wrench. Got over 100 point but it wasn't fun (only the gunners have fun this was). The fastest way to take out a blackhawk is by ramming it with a jet. But that is also stupid and not fun (allthough i do it sometimes).

                        I guess EA will also read some of these threads - guess they will alter the BH. So people can rack up points for another 2 1/2 weeks before it ends.

                        Maybe the A10 should be brought in - 1 sec of 30mm rounds on the BH and KABOOMMM.

                        I want the shoulder fired highspeed Stinger form Desert Combat, unguided or guided it doesnt matter to me - allthough the way it worked in DC (unguided) was fine to me...

                        And yes a tankround should kill a chopper with 1 shot (allthough it should be more difficult to hit that way). Make it as it was in Desert Combat.

                        I want BF2: Desert Combat!!!

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                        • Grey Fox

                          #72
                          Originally posted by MetalChris092781
                          The real BH miniguns are only 7.62mm...they're obviously way overpowered in this game.
                          No, in real life the guns are a lot more powerfull, I saw video I can't find right now, where you see it firing in real life. Anything but a tank is gone in 1 second.

                          Anyway on topic,
                          BH were meant to be transport heli's, not marsian deathray mashines. simply as that. and if after they get nerfed people don't fly, well to bad for them. If people don't apreciate the ability of a heli to fly 6 people very fast over the map and cap a flag in 2 seconds, thne they can go **** themselfes. If the miniguns are removed then and only them will there be good teamwork required to cap flags, but the people that master it will be succesfull.

                          Other thing they can do is remove the ability of the BH to repair itself in midair, but let the MEC and China heli's still have that ability. So the BH has bad ass guns, but can't repair itself in midair, but the MEC/China don't have badass guns but can repair themselfs in midair.

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                          • Roderick

                            #73
                            Its time for you Blackhawk noobs to learn how to play the game on the ground instead of milking a chopper the entire map for easy kills and points.

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                            • [Tex]Headinjury

                              #74
                              They will not change any of the aspects of the BH such as repairing midair or capping flags from the air. The only thing they need to do is slightly balance the choppers for all sides, If the other chopper wasnt a peashooter, the BH would have much more competition on maps like Mashtuur.

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                              • S_t_a_l_i_n

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Patrone
                                Maybe all the guns on transporthelos should be removed - let the passengers shoot with their own handguns.
                                .........you'd just be wasting bullets.........

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