Should attack helis catch fire with 1 AT missile hit

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Re: Should attack helis catch fire with 1 AT missile hit

So this guy was raping with the heli for an entire game on Sharqi (Koerner). I hit him with the AT rocket numerous times, of course, since it takes two hits, I did not take him out. Now if it were one hit, as it well should be or at least give him 90% damage it would make it a lot easier and balance the game out a bit. As it stands, on certain maps, a good helo pilot can ruin the game for the other team.

It looks like he was 74/0. Maybe he was just that good...
Maybe if more than one person was trying to take him out, things could have ended differently. Sharqi has horrendous fog that gives people in AA sites a chance, and there are multiple transport vehicles, tanks, and other people with small arms could have helped. As it is, having intelligent people on two of the AA sites could have put him down quickly, as they can lock way out past fog distance. Even a lowly M95 user can put an end to a chopper's streak with a lucky shot or skill if the chopper hovered for more than an instant.

Or you can just say they need to be nerfed to uselessness, that works, too.

But if it was really that easy for someone to do that in a chopper, why don't we see things like that all of the time? Instead, I've seen choppers screw up and rely on flares to protect against missiles while being chewed to **** by a HMMWV .50 and a PKM in about 2.5 seconds... You want them to be made of tin foil, instead of sheet metal?

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Should attack helis catch fire with 1 AT missile hit

So this guy was raping with the heli for an entire game on Sharqi (Koerner). I hit him with the AT rocket numerous times, of course, since it takes two hits, I did not take him out. Now if it were one hit, as it well should be or at least give him 90% damage it would make it a lot easier and balance the game out a bit. As it stands, on certain maps, a good helo pilot can ruin the game for the other team.

Not to sound like a prick, but I can tell by looking at their stats that these guys aren't very good: however, I do give the pilot the benefit of the doubt, but only because I've seen quite a few of them with low KD ratios in spite of their ability to fly intelligently.

In any case, what does that tell you about the opposing team's ability to organize in even a rudimentary manner to eliminate the threat given all of the weapons and defensive tools at their disposal? Think about that for a minute or two...

(Gunner) LtKoerner: http://bf2s.com/player/82880014/
(Pilot) DeezNuts77: http://bf2s.com/player/43897920/


The choppers are fine... the people suck. That is ideally what you should focus on rather than nerf everything until the game becomes a shadow of its former self. And if despite your best efforts a player comes along and dominates you, just accept it and move on.

[old sch00l]

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Less nerf more skill Sloi your us, calm your nubs.

[old sch00l]

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havoc is now fodder

squad up

[Rambo]

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its been taking me 3 rockets to down a chopper which makes playing vehicles suck:cry:

[Leopardi]

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The choppers are fine... the people suck. That is ideally what you should focus on rather than nerf everything until the game becomes a shadow of its former self. And if despite your best efforts a player comes along and dominates you, just accept it and move on.

:shakehead: If choppers dominate and there is absolutely no counter for ground troops agsainst choppers, how are they fine? Way out of balance. They are not fine then. Choppers can take out land AA before they can even see them.

[JonnyMacFred102]

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:shakehead: If choppers dominate and there is absolutely no counter for ground troops agsainst choppers, how are they fine? Way out of balance. They are not fine then. Choppers can take out land AA before they can even see them.

If the choppers get nerfed, they will become utterly useless on maps with jets. It's already too easy for a jet to just shoot a chopper down with its machine gun. If your team is getting raped by an attack chopper, it's not because the chopper is too strong or the pilot is too good. It's because your team sucks and no one is in squads using teamwork. In bf2, anything can be accomplished with enough teamwork.

Sadly, most pubs have less than half of the players in squads and even those in squads just don't have a clue how to work together. Thus, it's so easy for a jet or chopper to rape the entire team when everyone is just running around with different motives in mind...

Plus, DICE has only nerfed things in the past because noobs can't play the game with teamwork, instead of telling whiners to STFU and learn how to play cooperatively.

[Sloi sauce]

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:shakehead: If choppers dominate and there is absolutely no counter for ground troops agsainst choppers, how are they fine? Way out of balance. They are not fine then. Choppers can take out land AA before they can even see them.

If you keep nerfing weapons and vehicles because they're seemingly overpowered, eventually none of the aforementioned will take any real skill to operate, at which point BF2 becomes a game of Bingo... nothing more than an exercise in circumstantial luck.

By all means, keep reducing the skill necessary to use vehicles and weapons. Either you're going to make it even easier for the skilled players to dominate you by way of eliminating advanced techniques no longer applicable to the game, or you're going to place everybody on even footing, which takes all of the fun out of it.

Like I said, focus on improving the average player's skill and things will begin to look up.

[Rambo]

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for the love of GOD why did they not add hand held stingers or have them on the map like POE

[Leopardi]

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If you keep nerfing weapons and vehicles because they're seemingly overpowered, eventually none of the aforementioned will take any real skill to operate, at which point BF2 becomes a game of Bingo... nothing more than an exercise in circumstantial luck.

By all means, keep reducing the skill necessary to use vehicles and weapons. Either you're going to make it even easier for the skilled players to dominate you by way of eliminating advanced techniques no longer applicable to the game, or you're going to place everybody on even footing, which takes all of the fun out of it.

Like I said, focus on improving the average player's skill and things will begin to look up.

Nerfing? Buffing AA to level where air/land combat is more balanced (instead of total air domination) isn't nerfing. You sound like a chopper whore who's afraid that he can't no longer 110% dominate the game with chopper?

[iQue]

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You sound like a chopper whore who's afraid that he can't no longer 110% dominate the game with chopper?

:awes2

[imported_Chewie]

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As it stands now, a few good pilots can dominate an entire battlefield. It's not fair and it's definitely not balanced. All it does is make it impossible for one team to have fun when their constantly getting bombed, strafed, or blown to bits by missiles. The problem with BF2 is, you have these high ranking players who are extremely good, and you have your average players who have been playing for a while and are pretty good, and then you have your BF noobs who aren't very good. So it's not fair when one team is stacked with extremely good and average players and the other with average and noob players get raped by a couple of good pilots on the other team.

It's not fair that you can fire two AA missiles at a jet and then have them dodge both easily, turn around and strafe your gun position before you missiles even have a chance to reload.

[Leopardi]

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It's not fair that you can fire two AA missiles at a jet and then have them dodge both easily, turn around and strafe your gun position before you missiles even have a chance to reload.

Or even if you by some miracle happen to hit with BOTH missiles, the damn jet will just turn around and drop a quick burst on your face before he is even in the missile range. It's a joke, AA shouldn't be a suicide chair. How can anyone say it's balanced now?

[Sloi sauce]

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You sound like a chopper whore who's afraid that he can't no longer 110% dominate the game with chopper?

:laugh:

Seeing as I practically always fly unopposed for reasons of skill and skill alone, I theoretically welcome the challenge that such an alteration to the game mechanics would offer; I resist on principle, something that a lot of you are apparently willing to whore out whenever it becomes convenient to do so.

On a more pragmatic note, I couldn't care less about your proposed modifications since I barely play the game anymore, and the likelihood of such changes coming about are almost nil. I'm just here to entertain myself and educate a few of you, that's all...

As it stands now, a few good pilots can dominate an entire battlefield. It's not fair and it's definitely not balanced. All it does is make it impossible for one team to have fun when their constantly getting bombed, strafed, or blown to bits by missiles. The problem with BF2 is, you have these high ranking players who are extremely good, and you have your average players who have been playing for a while and are pretty good, and then you have your BF noobs who aren't very good. So it's not fair when one team is stacked with extremely good and average players and the other with average and noob players get raped by a couple of good pilots on the other team.

It's not fair that you can fire two AA missiles at a jet and then have them dodge both easily, turn around and strafe your gun position before you missiles even have a chance to reload.

Thank you for making my point for me, and in such a delicious manner.

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

Re: Should attack helis catch fire with 1 AT missile hit

No... Get better at spamming ur rockets..