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It is the opposite of that. Because you don"t like the bf2 gameplay you dont have to attemp to ruin it for everyone else that enjoy the game has it is, with vehicles, and the majority of the comunity always wants bug fixes and not more nerfing and changin of the game. People like the game has it is and thats why they bought it.

Wtf? Think about what your saying, how does a few servers running infantry only affect you, as a vehicle whore in the slightest? Clearly you never said the thread which had a shed load of signatures ASKING for Infantry Only then?

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It is the opposite of that. Because you don"t like the bf2 gameplay you dont have to attemp to ruin it for everyone else that enjoy the game has it is, with vehicles, and the majority of the comunity always wants bug fixes and not more nerfing and changin of the game. People like the game has it is and thats why they bought it. They dindt buy a game based on vehicles and a gameplay to at the end of it, getting that changed. the j10 - f35 problem was in one of the patches. what about when they put the crazy AA? What about 1.3. The worst patch of them all. Bf2 consume more memory,have less fps , server crashes , client crashes etc. And know this. PAtch 1.5 would be like 600MB and have fixes for 1.4 patch and bring new bugs so wait for 1.6 700MB. Hope that for christams they hit the 1 gb patch. That would be a record. Is the new bussines. Buy a game today. Get the finish version in a year or two.

The hope for bug fixes only is gone. This beta thing was for fixing new content not the bugs. Dice already know of the bugs reading in all the forums. This beta was for putting this infantry only mode.

Bf2142 would be the same thing when they start making patches. More bugs and nerfing instead of fixing.

How about a BUGS FIX ONLY MODE for dice canada when making a patch? Please EA enable this before DICE kills bf2.

Just do yourself a favour and don't reply, that made little sense and your logic is way off. How is it that a game mode which is optional for you to play ruins the game for everyone who likes it the way it is. I'm happy with the game the way it is, however i welcome the infantry only mode for a change. I'll still play the majority of the game on normal servers but will also play the infantry only for abit of fun. How this effects you i have no idea at all, and neither do you apparently.

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Yea I didn't buy battlefield 2 so I could play infantry only. I bought it for the vehicles the big maps and the 64 player servers. Battlefield 2 is about vehicles and taking them out of the game would be like counterstrike. I like hte option of keeping infantry only unranked. I mean you still get all your unlocks and get to play your infantry only.

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How about a BUG FIX ONLY MODE for dice canada when making a patch? Please EA enable this before DICE kills bf2.

:laugh: I'd play that mode man

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v good ideA

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I don't see what half of this bitching is about, it's simple. Make the hitpoints a server side option, that way you can keep the people who like it how is happy and the people who want it like normal will be happy. All the anti-infantry people, or the "go play css" people, it's even simpler for you. If you don't like the game mode then don't play it, just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean you have to attempt to ruin it for everyone else.

It is the opposite of that. Because you don"t like the bf2 gameplay you dont have to attemp to ruin it for everyone else that enjoy the game has it is, with vehicles, and the majority of the comunity always wants bug fixes and not more nerfing and changin of the game. People like the game has it is and thats why they bought it. They dindt buy a game based on vehicles and a gameplay to at the end of it, getting that changed. the j10 - f35 problem was in one of the patches. what about when they put the crazy AA? What about 1.3. The worst patch of them all. Bf2 consume more memory,have less fps , server crashes , client crashes etc. And know this. PAtch 1.5 would be like 600MB and have fixes for 1.4 patch and bring new bugs so wait for 1.6 700MB. Hope that for christams they hit the 1 gb patch. That would be a record. Is the new bussines. Buy a game today. Get the finish version in a year or two.

The hope for bug fixes only is gone. This beta thing was for fixing new content not the bugs. Dice already know of the bugs reading in all the forums. This beta was for putting this infantry only mode.

Bf2142 would be the same thing when they start making patches. More bugs and nerfing instead of fixing.

How about a BUGS FIX ONLY MODE for dice canada when making a patch? Please EA enable this before DICE kills bf2.

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I don't see what half of this bitching is about, it's simple. Make the hitpoints a server side option, that way you can keep the people who like it how is happy and the people who want it like normal will be happy. All the anti-infantry people, or the "go play css" people, it's even simpler for you. If you don't like the game mode then don't play it, just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean you have to attempt to ruin it for everyone else.

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The hope for a bug fixing patch is gone. Better wait for quake wars because bf2142 would be the same B.S. when dice canada start making their buggy patches to ruin gameplay and damage the dice sweden creation.

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This patch is shaping up to be horrible. Seems like more of the linear thinking to address problems, and more of the same deskilling of the most skilled elements of this game. Dropping to prone and maintaining and accurate cone of fire takes skill, aiming at a player who had proned and evading him also takes skill. Infantry only mode? More like medic only mode.

If you want infantry only mode, go play CounterStrike Source. This is BATTLEFIELD 2 FFS. The key element that separates this game from the rest and distinguishes the series is the vehicle and infantry interaction and squad based play. Without vehicles, Battlefield 2 is a mediocre shooter at best and nothing more.

If I wanted to play "infantry only mode" I'd go play Counterstrike. Better engine, better netcode, better weapon balance, better hit detection. I'm sorry but if you want a no-infantry server, make some infantry only maps. Once you stray in to infantry only territory, you lose your defining characteristic. I'm well aware it's optional. But flat out tons of these Karkand 24/7 will be going infantry only to further help pad stats. Now medic squads will be virtually invincible without a skilled APC or tank driver to catch them out in the open and cut them down. Another issue is of course, player statistics. Now you'll only see people cramming on to medic only servers for stat padding. Why introduce this, when this is almost exactly what you've been banning for on knife and pistol servers?

As if 2 AT rockets from behind a wall is too difficult to manage to instantly kill a tank or APC. That's called a team dynamic, you no longer need AT players, as such you have less of a need for support players, less of a need for Spec Ops, no need for engineers, and the whole game degrades into a medic pack tossing, shock paddling, G36E spam fest.

Very disappointed with how this patch is shaping up thus far. Infantry mode should not exist, period.

I was playing today, and when I looked at my map, it was lit up like a christmas tree with red crosses everywhere :laugh:

But you are right, BF2 really isnt a good infantry game. Counter strike source is where its at. When you aim at someone steady, you will hit everytime with the first 2 or 3 bullets. In BF2, if I aim exactly on someone, it really is spotty. The first bullet might hit, then the next 3 might miss, or the first 2 might miss, then the 3rd hits....just really weird

DICE I really REALLY.... and I think EVERYONE agrees.... think that this "infantry only"... should just be INFANTRY ONLY.

Not all this 2x hp and all the weapons are less effective B.S.

No more new content. You are making it worse and making things more complicated than they already are.

Just make it exactly as-is, just without vehicles... I say, put in the muscle car for transport (or anything without a gun... maybe a new vehicle?) and keep those all over the map.. so it won't be used as a main weapon.

Already I noticed an EXTREMELY annoying server browsing bug that NEEDS to be fixed.. I put it in the Feedback/bugs thread.

Also, fix the JSF/J-10 issue!

That is the one and ONLY gameplay change that everyone on these forums, and all bf2-related forums wants.. Just bring up "J-10" and people start saying how EXTREMELY unbalanced it is...So please.. if ANYTHING... fix that. This HUGE imbalance, completely messes up every map with the JSF... and the USMC almost always loses.

Agree. Address what we've been asking for which deals with a balance issue (F35/J10). I didnt see anyone asking for more health for infantry

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OK CKMC you did ask so I'll summarise
- Change the weapons damage back to core BF2 values. Stop nerfing your game!!!
- Infantry mode is unranked
- Heavy transport, light transport, atv, transport choppers and ribs should stay

If you must nerf, NERF UP. If a weapon is too powerful make the other weapons more powerful to counter it. Not the other way round - nerfing down kills the game
Take a hypothetical example -
The blackhawk used to be too powerful
Solution - make the other tranports equally powerful. Give infantry a portable stinger. That is all.
The G36e is too powerful
Solution - Make the M16 as powerful and as accurate
The J10 is far better than the F35b
Solution - Fix the F35b missiles. Give the F35b an advantage like a very effective airbrake utilising its VTOL

Doing the above - nerfing UP - makes everyone happy
Doing the opposite - nerfing DOWN - ****es players off
Think of your customers

Edit Colin Clarke - I asked you before and I'll ask again
Please do not take feedback in this way. You MUST if you are to achieve any useful feedback invite selected members of a forum like this for their feedback. Approach individuals - let the people who have proven themselves here have their voices heard above the complaints from a new player who has just had his ass handed to him

People here like Harmor, Metallicaguitarist, Planewhore, Wargimp, Rombaft, ||bfa||variable, Eternal-Souljah, bitvomit, troybob, Hu.Z_of_PLA to name but a few. There are not many more.
There are not many who I would trust with this game but there are perhaps 10-20 here active on these forums who know what they are talking about and you should listen to them as well. Because those intelligent and passionate voices represent the community and will give you the feedback you need
If you want to know what a nation thinks you don't ask the man in the street. You ask the politician or the newsreporter. Similarly with this game you don't ask the common player - you ask the community moderators, the senior members and the clan leaders.
Please do it this time if you are really serious about this feedback and public relations

GOD BLESS!!!! :rock:

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Thats why Dice increased the hit points on the infantry. This was done so the score per minute and kill rate would be more equal to servers with vehicles. If they make it infantry only and don't increase the hitpoints on a player then it can't be ranked.

They aren't contradicting themselves with this beta inf only system.

You are missing the point. This is the same thing they are closing servers, for rules like no tank or apc. They know bf2 maps and ranked system is made including vehicles. No vehicles is going to be stat padding place to be. They are making new thing without even fixing the old game that is in the cd box. This all beta testing should be for fixing bugs of the original BF2. Not making more things that will bring more bugs, more nerfing etc. This setting in ranked servers would make that noobs don't bother to learn to use vehicles. To fly jets or choppers. So why they are going to do. Go to infantry only and never learn anything of the original game. Later on the other maps will be empty. This will be the new CS 1.6. infantry only will kill bf2. Thanks EA DICE this is the patch that would kill bf2.

With every patch it get worse. Is dice canada trying to make dice sweden creation look bad or something?


PLease DICE only bugs fixes, don't add this to ranked. :|:

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Bfroe said no tanks or apc is not allowed in ranked servers
You know bf2 maps are not made for infantry only. Maybe city maps but what about the other maps. Mayby is better that DIce dont make anymore patches. They make more damage than fix. That would be like stat padding.

Thats why Dice increased the hit points on the infantry. This was done so the score per minute and kill rate would be more equal to servers with vehicles. If they make it infantry only and don't increase the hitpoints on a player then it can't be ranked.

They aren't contradicting themselves with this beta inf only system.

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This patch is shaping up to be horrible. Seems like more of the linear thinking to address problems, and more of the same deskilling of the most skilled elements of this game. Dropping to prone and maintaining and accurate cone of fire takes skill, aiming at a player who had proned and evading him also takes skill. Infantry only mode? More like medic only mode.

If you want infantry only mode, go play CounterStrike Source. This is BATTLEFIELD 2 FFS. The key element that separates this game from the rest and distinguishes the series is the vehicle and infantry interaction and squad based play. Without vehicles, Battlefield 2 is a mediocre shooter at best and nothing more.

If I wanted to play "infantry only mode" I'd go play Counterstrike. Better engine, better netcode, better weapon balance, better hit detection. I'm sorry but if you want a no-infantry server, make some infantry only maps. Once you stray in to infantry only territory, you lose your defining characteristic. I'm well aware it's optional. But flat out tons of these Karkand 24/7 will be going infantry only to further help pad stats. Now medic squads will be virtually invincible without a skilled APC or tank driver to catch them out in the open and cut them down. Another issue is of course, player statistics. Now you'll only see people cramming on to medic only servers for stat padding. Why introduce this, when this is almost exactly what you've been banning for on knife and pistol servers?

As if 2 AT rockets from behind a wall is too difficult to manage to instantly kill a tank or APC. That's called a team dynamic, you no longer need AT players, as such you have less of a need for support players, less of a need for Spec Ops, no need for engineers, and the whole game degrades into a medic pack tossing, shock paddling, G36E spam fest.

Very disappointed with how this patch is shaping up thus far. Infantry mode should not exist, period.

[JonnyMacFred102]

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Even though Dice is finally learning how to communicate with the community... they are just too dumb to know what we really want.

Infantry only = no vehicles/commander. Period. none of this decreased damage garabge.

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everthing is good but the 30 seconds revive time. itll be better at like 20 or 25seconds and less damage would just be gay 10 hits to kill is bad enough