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please this is a beta test and they really want your feedback, who knows, maybe you will end up with ranked infantry only servers..

so lets please provide constructive feedback as this type doesnt help..

Bfroe said no tanks or apc is not allowed in ranked servers
You know bf2 maps are not made for infantry only. Maybe city maps but what about the other maps. Mayby is better that DIce dont make anymore patches. They make more damage than fix. That would be like stat padding.

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

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DICE I really REALLY.... and I think EVERYONE agrees.... think that this "infantry only"... should just be INFANTRY ONLY.

Not all this 2x hp and all the weapons are less effective B.S.

No more new content. You are making it worse and making things more complicated than they already are.

Just make it exactly as-is, just without vehicles... I say, put in the muscle car for transport (or anything without a gun... maybe a new vehicle?) and keep those all over the map.. so it won't be used as a main weapon.

Already I noticed an EXTREMELY annoying server browsing bug that NEEDS to be fixed.. I put it in the Feedback/bugs thread.

Also, fix the JSF/J-10 issue!

That is the one and ONLY gameplay change that everyone on these forums, and all bf2-related forums wants.. Just bring up "J-10" and people start saying how EXTREMELY unbalanced it is...So please.. if ANYTHING... fix that. This HUGE imbalance, completely messes up every map with the JSF... and the USMC almost always loses.

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Well tell me why DICE AND EA in bfroe says that RANKED SERVERS cant put rules in the use of vehicles. And many servers had been shut down for breaking this rule. Now DICE comes with this. They contradict them selfs with this. No vehicles in maps is for stat padding. Is unfair for people that like to use vehicles in the others servers with vehicles. This is why all the server are going to put infantry only and player will play those and not the regular ones. To makes points. This mode should be unranked only.

Again I say the same

BF2 maps are made for vehicles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dice dont make a mistake. Leave this unraked. Infantry only is good for clan matches etc. Not ranked servers.

Fix the bugs. No more new content. Let bf2 has it is. Stop making it worse.

please this is a beta test and they really want your feedback, who knows, maybe you will end up with ranked infantry only servers..

so lets please provide constructive feedback as this type doesnt help..

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I dont think your understanding. This is an OPTION, ie servers can have it on or off.

Maps like Zatar, Dragon Valley etc wont be set to infantry only, the whole point of those maps is the vehicles. This setting would, id imagin, mainly be used for city maps servers primarily because the people who frequent those servers LIKE playing as infantry.

People will still play servers with Zatar, Dragon Valley etc, just those of us who dont like getting the **** bombed out of us repeatedly can play on an infantry only server and have some good infantry battles.

Well tell me why DICE AND EA in bfroe says that RANKED SERVERS cant put rules in the use of vehicles. And many servers had been shut down for breaking this rule. Now DICE comes with this. They contradict them selfs with this. No vehicles in maps is for stat padding. Is unfair for people that like to use vehicles in the others servers with vehicles. This is why all the server are going to put infantry only and player will play those and not the regular ones. To makes points. This mode should be unranked only.

Again I say the same

BF2 maps are made for vehicles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dice dont make a mistake. Leave this unraked. Infantry only is good for clan matches etc. Not ranked servers.

Fix the bugs. No more new content. Let bf2 has it is. Stop making it worse.

[Dangerdog]

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Infantry combat in BF2 is fun but the experience is usually tainted with constant artillery bombing and people spawn killing with armor, the city maps are the closest thing to infantry squad on squad combat and that's why they are so popular.

Everyone was looking forward to a game mode where at least the heavy armor and probably jets/attack choppers would be taken out of the equation, but if they did that then it would be "BF2 Light" - they already have this and it's called BF2:Special Forces expansion, well they took out the jets anyways, dispite the night maps I enjoy playing this the most.

I think people envisioned how nice it would be to play a map like Karkand without artillery and heavy armor (APC’s and Tanks), Mashtuur City is probably the closest to the idea of a perfect infantry orientated map, the new Jalalabad map would too. I doubt anybody gave much consideration to the island maps or the ones where you start out on the aircraft carrier, even if this new infantry only game mode made it to being played as a ranked game I really doubt anyone would run those maps in rotation.

To those that say just go play Counter Strike then I say fine, when are they going to add in iron sights to all weapons, the ability to go prone, and all the weapon classes you see in Battlefield 2 including the medic revive? Speaking of which, the number one reason I hate playing Counter Strike is that it’s round based, adding in 30 second respawn queues into BF2 goes a long way toward me not being interested in playing this mode, regardless of the logic behind it.

I would just like to say DICE, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it and in your case don’t make it worse. There’s nothing wrong with the infantry combat that the base game provides, nobody likes walking so leave in the light transport vehicles and even the transport helicopters (you’ve nerfed the Blackhawk gun to the point of being completely useless), take out the jets and attack choppers, leave the infantry combat alone.

Take out the artillery (you’ve already done this on Iron Gator), the rest can stay including the vehicle drop, call it Battlefield 2 IO (infantry orientated) and then I think you’d have a winner.

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I have to agree that in some maps, alot of walking might have to be done. So this is my suggestion:

*Have Hummers and Vodniks, but remove the mounted machine guns on them, so that they can solely be used to transport.
*leave the transport helicopters the way they are, but just as the hummers and vodniks, remove the machine guns. Transport helicopters can also emphasize on how players strategize their movements and also reinforces their skills. (i.e. accuracy - sniping from a black hawk.)
+ I think that the transport helicopters can really be needed on maps like wake or gulf of oman.

That way, the TOW missles can actually have a point in infantry mode, and transportation wont be an issue.

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I love the idea of infantry only, and I'd love to see it on ranked servers.

A few buggies or jeeps would be welcomed just to save walking and to make anti-tank useful, but make them on a very slow respawn time (60-120 secs) so they can't be spammed or abused. No hummers or vodniks thou.

What's worrying me is that china v USA maps will not get rotated on infantry only servers. Limiting the amount of poeple playing as china even more.

I also hate the idea of health increase/weapon damage decrease, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE leave it as is.

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DICE, listen. For your "infantry mode", do these things.

1) Remove the commander's arty capabilities.
2) Remove the commander's vehicle drop capabilities.
3) Remove every single vehicle from the maps.
4) Only have infantry only pertain to certain maps, ie: Karkand, Mashtuur, Sharqi Peninsula, Jalla.
5) Don't mess with medic packs
6) Don't mess with Damage
7) Don't mess with supply packs

That's all you have to do. All you need to do for infantry is remove objects so that's it's infantry only. Why are you tweaking the game? If you're going to tweak anything, give the infantry only mode a smaller cone of fire so our first shots are more accurate.

That's all you need to do.

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To mkae this game at least semi - realistic, the guns all should be more powerful. One shot from any gun should do a fair bit of damage.

[Chodda]

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lol *cough* yah the new map is pwnge. it actually is fun though.

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If anything, to increase the strategy involved you should decrease HP. Increasing it only means noobs will run in, get shot, and cost yet another ticket. It will lead to carelessness and a more Halo 2-type gameplay where you just kamikazi head on into a battle, looking for a kill, but if you die, oh no it won't matter. If you decrease HP, players will use more tactics, be more stealthy, stay hidden, and only rush in if they're desperate or really good. Great job. More unwanted changes. More players leaving.

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"reinforces player skill (i.e. accuracy, etc)."

So using vehicles takes no skill?

"commander with no artillery or vehicles"

Whats the point of being commander then?

I understand its just for the no infantry mode....but still

I don't know why this got under my skin- perhaps I'm tired but seriously.

No one said vehicles take no skills. This is a much appreciated reply by DICE to the requests of the community.

Just because the commander loses arty and vehicle drops doesn't mean it's a useless position. Take this anyway you want but if you feel that way, then you're an inadequate commander. There's still plenty of use in that role.


/tired rant

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I don't understand why you had to increase the health points in infantry only mode, it's mind boggling. I mean WTF? half the guns will become useless now: the AT submachine guns already take almost a full clip to kill someone, it's gonna take three now? Two M95 headshots to kill someone? Lame. And what about claymores? will we have to plant the pair on the same spot to get a kill? Oh and I guess I can just forget about killing somebody with the pistol.

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DICE LISTEN! Why do you keep on changing things that most people do not want? e.g increasing the HP in infantry mode? Infantry mode = no tanks/cars/jets etc...nothing more and nothing less.WHY MUST YOU BE SO EXTRA AND RUIN PEOPLE'S GAMES? At this rate, people will just join normal servers with infantry rules, and not infantry modes.

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To the dice Team:

Please add some kind of honk to the tank and the APC. that would be real nice guys