Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

I highly doubt that.

What is the main BF2 competition? How many different clans play in that competition?

How many servers are there currently up?

That should give you some idea how much the competitive clans make up of the BF2 active player community.

After that you can take into account how many people are in that clan. A clan of 10 people that plays competitivly can hardly hold the same weight as a gaming group of 200 - 400 people with 50 playing BF2.

There's 560 teams in TWLs 5v5 and 8v8 NA ladders, 20 teams in CAL-M, not sure how many in CAL-O, and this are the two main ladder/leagues, along with World Tournament, and all the other leagues and ladders, yes there is a significant amount of competitive clans and teams out there. Of course, that's just organized play, that doesn't take into account the many, many, many that just scrim with others, and are not in leagues. IMO, as there are no statisitics to prove otherwise, a large portion of the players in BF2 that have stuck withit, and many newer players are in the competitive side, seriously, hoiw long can you go pubbing with all the retards out there and maintain any interest?

[warchild.IrishRage]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

I hate squadhoppers. They should be kicked and lose half thier points since it doubles if you win...screw em all.......

you my friend are a moron, commander gets double points for winning.

Let me tell you WHY competitive people want this kept. When there is a stratagy for certain people to go certain place and things change and all of the sudden someone is capping your main, well someone can suicide spawn off the commander and hold the fort. This isnt an exploit nor glitch, its helping your team! Hell when you pub half the players arent even in a squad, so its bad then for us competitive players to help the team out by supporting a base being taken over by spawning off a squad leader there? Stop throwing around "exploit this and cheating that or thats a glitch" all the bloody time. Its part of the game and helps the team win more then anything else.

Big daddy TX is your saying you play matches and you dont see a need for it then your team isnt that great at all. When it comes to matches, what ever wins the match is a valid tactic because in the end its about winning, so cornering and baseraping arer very much allowed, now put it this way if your team was stuck at main getting raped and one makes it out, you cant spawn off him for a couple deaths and by then he has been found and exterminated.

People who pub need to realize the same thing, this game is about winning not win with giving the other team a chance. Base raping is a smart tactic to keep the enemy confined to thier base , its dirty and mean but hey its a war game not mickey mouse.

So say what you want about spawning off a squad leader and squad hopping, but in the end it helps your team win, its funny now even teamwork is being called exploits by you guys.. get a grip or go play counterstrike source my god.

Have a great day

[Consultant01]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

olmost 99% clans are competive

83% of all statistics are made up on the spot, and you are still a special boy.

92% of my clan thinks you are an idiot.

5% think you are just french

7% realize that 92 + 5 + 7 is more than 100

[N2K]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

EA only has ears and eyes when there is a $ sign infront of it...im sure DICE wouldnt care but they arent in control, plus also have to make a living.

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

When there is a stratagy for certain people to go certain place and things change and all of the sudden someone is capping your main, well someone can suicide spawn off the commander and hold the fort.

I love how you make fun of someone for not knowing the scoring system and then turn around and say you can spawn off the commander :-/

Stop throwing around "exploit this and cheating that or thats a glitch" all the bloody time. Its part of the game and helps the team win more then anything else.

But it ISN'T part of the game. They never meant the squad system to be used that way and whenyou use it that way you are, in fact, exploiting the game. Noone is throwing the word around. EA has explicitly stated that this is an exploit.

So say what you want about spawning off a squad leader and squad hopping, but in the end it helps your team win, its funny now even teamwork is being called exploits by you guys.. get a grip or go play counterstrike source my god.

So, if I found and exploit in the game where I could shoot into a wall and it would kill everyone on the opposing team, would you say that that is a valid tactic and team work oriented because it helps my team win?

Every clan match would just be a race to that point to shoot it. But you, of course, would think this is good because it is part of the game and helps you win.

[Consultant01]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

And hey.... by this "Clans do it" logic, all unlocks should be removed, since every match I've played in has the "No unlocks" rule to ensure an even playing field.

[N2K]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

The non unlocks rule anyways!

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

And hey.... by this "Clans do it" logic, all unlocks should be removed, since every match I've played in has the "No unlocks" rule to ensure an even playing field.

TWL holds an unlocks ladder.

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

I love how you make fun of someone for not knowing the scoring system and then turn around and say you can spawn off the commander :-/


But it ISN'T part of the game. They never meant the squad system to be used that way and whenyou use it that way you are, in fact, exploiting the game. Noone is throwing the word around. EA has explicitly stated that this is an exploit.


So, if I found and exploit in the game where I could shoot into a wall and it would kill everyone on the opposing team, would you say that that is a valid tactic and team work oriented because it helps my team win?

Every clan match would just be a race to that point to shoot it. But you, of course, would think this is good because it is part of the game and helps you win.

Its funny when you dont understand the strat.. commander resigns goes squad leader and you spawn off him :) I thought intelligent people could atleast grasp what the fundamentals of competitive play does.

Second did you see me say that exploits are part of winning you tool? I said base raping and spawning off leader is what people do for the win , when it comes to matches teams that win may play dirty but not exploit or cheat moron. gg come back when you have something valid to say nub

[Consultant01]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

TWL holds an unlocks ladder.

oh, thats good to know.

I'm in the 1% of clans (lol) that isnt super competitive. We have small scrims a couple times a month and the rules are generally the same.

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

I thought intelligent people could atleast grasp what the fundamentals of competitive play does.

If all you clans are so hardcore, you'd learn to adapt to the new system and actually incorporate more teamwork to keeping your squadleader alive, instead of playing hopscotch around the map.

I guess egos are so fragile that winning must come at all costs, and anything that would make that just a smidgen more difficult is wrong.

[WDA_Endless954]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

Anyone have any more info on the leaked medal req's? Is it legit?

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

If all you clans are so hardcore, you'd learn to adapt to the new system and actually incorporate more teamwork to keeping your squadleader alive, instead of playing hopscotch around the map.

I guess egos are so fragile that winning must come at all costs, and anything that would make that just a smidgen more difficult is wrong.

We do apapt and learn but then once we learn too incorperate the new styles and get good at it we hear the same old " OMG thats an exploit that should be banned" and some other random whinning. We already have strats for the new patch. More difficult? try looking in the mirror it was people like you who cried and emailed EA when things were too hard for you so you got ranks lowered, guns tweaked, bunny hopping removed so on and so on .

[Paas]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

We do apapt and learn but then once we learn too incorperate the new styles and get good at it we hear the same old " OMG thats an exploit that should be banned" and some other random whinning. We already have strats for the new patch. More difficult? try looking in the mirror it was people like you who cried and emailed EA when things were too hard for you so you got ranks lowered, guns tweaked, bunny hopping removed so on and so on .

The Bunny Hopping, Dolphin Diving, Squad Hopping would have all been nixed in the end anyways. It's simply not how Dice/EA wanted things to be done.

As for the Stats. Lowing the requirements for things really doesn't matter because most of the medals are "targeted". I'm almost 100% sure Dice didn't want people to "target" the medals, more less just aquire them while they are "in the zone". Yet, it has become the focus of all the community rants and raves about. I mean, people even sell their darn accounts for considerable cash all because of medals and points.

...so, maybe Dice is making an effort to show the community, "Hey! The stats are there for you to keep track of how you progressed and how you stack up in the world; they are not an E-Penis enlarger!"

...too bad almost 90% of the community doesn't hear them.

{WP}Paas

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

The Bunny Hopping, Dolphin Diving, Squad Hopping would have all been nixed in the end anyways. It's simply not how Dice/EA wanted things to be done.

As for the Stats. Lowing the requirements for things really doesn't matter because most of the medals are "targeted". I'm almost 100% sure Dice didn't want people to "target" the medals, more less just aquire them while they are "in the zone". Yet, it has become the focus of all the community rants and raves about. I mean, people even sell their darn accounts for considerable cash all because of medals and points.

...so, maybe Dice is making an effort to show the community, "Hey! The stats are there for you to keep track of how you progressed and how you stack up in the world; they are not an E-Penis enlarger!"

...too bad almost 90% of the community doesn't hear them.

{WP}Paas

lmao that is going to be my new sig

""Hey! The stats are there for you to keep track of how you progressed and how you stack up in the world; they are not an E-Penis enlarger!"

...too bad almost 90% of the community doesn't hear them."