Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

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Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

Just to put things in prespective...

By my best estimation, there's over 500, 000 active BF2 accounts. 10399 signees represents 2% of the community.

I had expected more by now consitering the amount of coverage the petition got.

But you did the same thing here. I know we'll never know, even if EA does they wouldn't tell you. But you have to admit 10,000+ is a lot, even more than asked for free maps.

BTW, Removing SH doesn't bother, I'd just rather they fixed the game first :P

[WarGimp]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

BTW, Removing SH doesn't bother, I'd just rather they fixed the game first :P

It's not an either or situation.

They've been trying to fix the major bugs. They just aren't easy things to deal with. I'd be impressed if you could find a way to replicate the red/blue bug reliably... because so far, NOONE has been able to. Without even being able to pin down where the bug is coming from, fixing it is like hunting for a needle in a needle stack.

That said, it's a job for 1 or maybe 2 guys. It just doesn't help having more than one codie working on problems like this since there's only so much that can be done. That means other things can be done by the rest of the team.

BTW, from the rumblings I've been hearing, 1.3 is going to be a whopper of a patch. There's more going on that people are aware of. It's gonna be a BIG one.

[imported_Budo7]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

Its a game, squad hopping is not being used they way Dice meant it to be. (which means its an exploit) Now I like the squad hop, however I understand that it was not meant to be used that way. I do not care one way or the other.

[Shepherd007]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

or maybe if someone makes it to the shore without getting killed, won't be able to start a squad and get players off the carrier by spawning on him. this o'll make it harder for people to get off the carrier and work as a team to get a flag. and i plan to rape the **** out of pubs on carriers till ea realizes squad hopping is needed.

If a team loses their 3 land bases (32-man Gulf of Oman), or can't sneak on Wake or Dalian Plant, or can't shoot down the J-10s with the essex, then they suck as a team. They probably have too many plane campers and deserve to be baseraped.

[Teaves]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

If the main argument is that clan players want to squad hop for competition play, then i can't for the life of me work out why the ladders can't just use version 1.2 OR make a tiny and simple mini-mod to allow squad hopping???


Wouldnt this make everyone happy and at the same time not effect the general player base that either want it removed or don't care one way or the other??

I would appreciate one person that signed the petition to answer me this simple question??

(p.s i squad hop, or cycle squad leaders all the time to base rape and i want it removed as its ruins my victims games as they have to spend all game removing the hoppers and don't get to play )

[Skwurl]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

[paintballboy711]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

i agree keep squad hopping

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

its up to 10480 now...

[spyderfenix2006]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

some of those changes are good for me but also some are bad but over all it is good changes.

Are the changes official that they are making in the 1.3 patch?

[Slacker317]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

Online petitions are worthless. Nothing will change because of them.

[Teaves]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

If the main argument is that clan players want to squad hop for competition play, then i can't for the life of me work out why the ladders can't just use version 1.2 OR make a tiny and simple mini-mod to allow squad hopping???

Any chance of one of those 10,000+ people answering my very simple question

[TokenBrit]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

What is fairly certain is that clans will do anything to win. Anything that can be done in the game will be done. In the past this had included bunny hopping noob tubing, prone spamming, c4 chucking etc. Now this list will grow to include squad hopping. How long before there is something else to whine about?
The problem with the BF2 community is that the pubbies are so far behind the clannies on the learning curve that they get stomped continuously by whatever tactic is currently in vogue in the clan community.
So squad hopping will get nerfed, but there will always be SOMETHING in the game which clannies practice and do better than pubbies, and generally pubbies will always cry about it.

[warchild.IrishRage]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

What is fairly certain is that clans will do anything to win. Anything that can be done in the game will be done. In the past this had included bunny hopping noob tubing, prone spamming, c4 chucking etc. Now this list will grow to include squad hopping. How long before there is something else to whine about?
The problem with the BF2 community is that the pubbies are so far behind the clannies on the learning curve that they get stomped continuously by whatever tactic is currently in vogue in the clan community.
So squad hopping will get nerfed, but there will always be SOMETHING in the game which clannies practice and do better than pubbies, and generally pubbies will always cry about it.

give this man a goddamn award for smartest man alive.

[Roger Smith]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

Remove the squadhopping and remove the people who like it. Two problems fixed at the price of one and no more whining.

god damned right, now if we can just remove the people that whine about base rape and enforce ******** rules.

[« R²» HKS]

Re: Listen to the community(10399 votes to leave squadhopping)

If the main argument is that clan players want to squad hop for competition play, then i can't for the life of me work out why the ladders can't just use version 1.2 OR make a tiny and simple mini-mod to allow squad hopping???


Wouldnt this make everyone happy and at the same time not effect the general player base that either want it removed or don't care one way or the other??

I would appreciate one person that signed the petition to answer me this simple question??

(p.s i squad hop, or cycle squad leaders all the time to base rape and i want it removed as its ruins my victims games as they have to spend all game removing the hoppers and don't get to play )

OK I'll bite an answering your questions from a signee of said petition.

As far as I'm concerned its not just for comp play although it "may" change the way comp games are played.

Squad hopping and SL cycling are there for better teamwork. My argument is that is if they outlaw it then the way a SL needs to play is extremely boring. A SL should stay back out of the action so the rest of the squads has a spawn point. That is soooooo boring for the SL and they end up with a score of 2 if they are lucky. Why should a SL be heavily penalised just for being a SL and where is the fun for the SL to hang back out of the action? If you want to hang back out of the action then play the commander, do a good job and enjoy your 2x bonus. What does a SL get 2 points if they are lucky and a boring time?

Also here's another example. You are playing in a squad and cycling, then you get a random who becomes the SL who is off over the side of the map not even part of the squad. So then you make another squad. By this new system the rest of the squad won't even be able to spawn on the SL till their next death. How is that good for teamwork?

If these buttons are greyed out whilst your dead, what will happen at the start of the round (effectively the same as being dead) I don't know about you but when the map loads I either create or join a squad. If I join I spawn on the SL. You won't be able to do that, won't be able to spawn on the SL until after your 1st death, same for the rest of a squad so then you have a SL with nobody to back them up? Where is the teamwork in that?

I believe that comp players will simply suicide as personal points mean nothing and suiciding doesn't effect the tickets so it would go like this: Want to squad hop, spawn pick the squad, suicide, then spawn on the SL.

This is not an issue on the game and I would rather DICE/EA stop dumbing the game down and concentrating on the real problems all the bugs they still haven't fixed.