Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

[evilzucchini]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

It's incredible how everyone whines about them taking away exploits. I mean, seriously, they didn't add squads into the game so you had 9 spawn points plus the flags. If you were squad hopping you were exploiting the system. They rightfully removed the exploit, IMO.

Second, I love how every major patch comes out there is always this "OMG! this is because of the dumbass noobs!!!! The game is noobified and everyone is going to stop playing!!! OMG!!! the world is over!!! OMG!!!" Don't worry, people are going to keep playing. If your enjoyment of the game is really based on the ability to spawn pretty much wherever you like than that is pretty lame.

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

The big fault of the DICE developers was to let this exploit exist for so long, attracting a lot of people who don't like to play tactical, like UT or Quake players as it seems.

In some way, BF2 even rewards dying. If you die in BF2, then...

• ...you get a free teleport to almost any location you want
• ...you get all weapons/C4/whatever recharged

That's why some people even consider suiciding a valid tactic - this is the point where anybody should notice that something's going the wrong way gameplay-wise.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

It's incredible how everyone whines about them taking away exploits. I mean, seriously, they didn't add squads into the game so you had 9 spawn points plus the flags. If you were squad hopping you were exploiting the system. They rightfully removed the exploit, IMO.

Second, I love how every major patch comes out there is always this "OMG! this is because of the dumbass noobs!!!! The game is noobified and everyone is going to stop playing!!! OMG!!! the world is over!!! OMG!!!" Don't worry, people are going to keep playing. If your enjoyment of the game is really based on the ability to spawn pretty much wherever you like than that is pretty lame.

Sometimes when people kick of its right

[Vash!]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Hope the commander can drop TONS of jeeps, because we are going to need them.

I used the squad hoping for Tactical Clans Matches, Im going to miss that, everything is going to be waaaaaay slow.

[18Zulukiller]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Hope the commander can drop TONS of jeeps, because we are going to need them.

I used the squad hoping for Tactical Clans Matches, Im going to miss that, everything is going to be waaaaaay slow.

slower and more in balanced towards the chinese and MEC teamson certain maps.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

The big fault of the DICE developers was to let this exploit exist for so long, attracting a lot of people who don't like to play tactical, like UT or Quake players as it seems.

Squadhopping did not attract twitch players, that is about the funniest thing I have read today.

"Hey, I think I am going to leave Quake for BF2."

"Why Bob?"

"Because dude, you can squadhop!!!!!"

If you want to enjoy military tactics, join the military. Trust me, you, like I did, can get your fill of tactics.

BF2 is a GAME, and it a ARCADE military STYLE FPS. It isn't a war sim, or a tactics training ground. If people playing it for reasons other than yours is wrong, than we are all screwed. I like BF2 because I can identify with it after having been in the military. Some people play it to pretend they are rough tough Marines working over the MEC, using the most uber of military tactics, some play it for the fast paced action that it offers. There are servers that cater to everyones style and vision, find them and play on them, don't change the game for everyone because YOU don't like something, it isn't yours.

[Vash!]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

slower and more in balanced towards the chinese and MEC teamson certain maps.

Indeed, now MEC and Chinese Soldiers need to be Ubersoldiers, they cannot affort to die in certains maps, because if they do, they will need to walk or drive like half map to get the only cap flag.

[Red Devil]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

So, the SL will still be a mobile spawn point, but you just won't be able to leave your squad and join a squad farther up the map and spawn on him when you are dead.

Well, unless you spawn/leave/join/suicide/click on SL and that will cost you a ticket and time.

Miniguns are only useful if the pilot brings them to bear on the hostiles.

Drives me crazy when he flies in and there's some guy aiming his AT missile at the chopper from the front or rear, yet he flies right at them...

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

If you want to enjoy military tactics, join the military. Trust me, you, like I did, can get your fill of tactics.

Hahaha no thanks I am a very peaceful person in real life

BF2 is a GAME, and it a ARCADE military STYLE FPS. It isn't a war sim, or a tactics training ground.

Obviously the DICE devs still consider BF2 a military style arcade shooter without squadhopping. I agree.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Obviously the DICE devs still consider BF2 a military style arcade shooter without squadhopping. I agree.

Than do you agree that people should have the right to choose a server that caters to their style of playing within the ROE? And that if I want to run and gun, or you want to move tactically with your team we BOTH should have the right to play our ways on the servers of our choice?

[evilzucchini]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Than do you agree that people should have the right to choose a server that caters to their style of playing within the ROE? And that if I want to run and gun, or you want to move tactically with your team we BOTH should have the right to play our ways on the servers of our choice?

You do have the right to play on a server that caters to your playstyle. Noone is stopping you. Get a server, hook it up and set it up any way you like.

However, if you want to play on a RANKED server, then yeah, EA/Dice can define how the game is to be played anyway they like.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

You do have the right to play on a server that caters to your playstyle. Noone is stopping you. Get a server, hook it up and set it up any way you like.

However, if you want to play on a RANKED server, then yeah, EA/Dice can define how the game is to be played anyway they like.

Sorry buddy, there's nothing in the ROE that says I can't join whatever squad I want, whenever I want, and the ROE are the rules for ranked servers, not gameplay. And if they remove it in a patch than it wouldn't matter if it was ranked or not, it would have to be a different version.

And next time, stay in the context of the conversation at hand, don't spew your trite comments into something unrelated. I only mentioned the ROE to keep the "well what about P/K servers" comments out.

[evilzucchini]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Sorry buddy, there's nothing in the ROE that says I can't join whatever squad I want, whenever I want, and the ROE are the rules for ranked servers, not gameplay.

There is nothing in the RoE that says that you can't play Quake and get your stats there. So I guess you should be able to play Quake and get it ranked on BF2. Sorry, doesn't float. You have to be playing the game to get it ranked and if the game does not allow squad hopping then you have a few choices: Don't play, play on unranked servers or deal with it.

And if they remove it in a patch than it wouldn't matter if it was ranked or not, it would have to be a different version.

Or a mod, which was my point.

And next time, stay in the context of the conversation at hand, don't spew your trite comments into something unrelated. I only mentioned the ROE to keep the "well what about P/K servers" comments out.

First of all, bite me. I was completely civil in my response, I was just being straight with you using the facts. It seems that you need to attack me because you know I am right.

Second, I didn't say anything about the RoE. I just said that EA doesn't have to define the game the way you like it. They have a game and if you want to play it ranked then you have to be playing their game. It is really quite simple.

[Harmor]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

If they wanted to fix 'squad hopping' why only disable the Join Squad/Create Squad button once every minute. This way while dead you can join or create 1 squad, but then couldn't leave that squad for a minute?

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Than do you agree that people should have the right to choose a server that caters to their style of playing within the ROE? And that if I want to run and gun, or you want to move tactically with your team we BOTH should have the right to play our ways on the servers of our choice?

I still think an option would be the best solution of course.

All my recent postings are answers to people claiming that the style of gameplay I like would never ever work properly in BF2. I don't discuss because I don't want you to have an option!

So with that option I can go to servers where squadhopping is disabled. I can do my "military tactics" without fearing to get raped by people who prefer to squadhop. In my league people would play without squadhopping, I know that, just as CAL/TWL would play with squadhopping supposedly.