Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

[BIFF EXPLODER]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

i'm hoping they are fixing the map filter thing in the server browser (it hasnt been working for me since they "fixed" it in the last patch... and in zatar wetlands the map is allbugged sometimes u click to send artillary or any other commander thing and it goes to the wrong place, its bugged with the squad requests aswell, and getting stuck in AA guns not being able to get out, and rockets passing thru jeeps (specially annoying) and other i dont remember...

oh they could return the performance of the game to e like the demo and the first version cause i could play in high back then :\

anyways.. i still have hope on them, for me as much as patches annoy me sometimes they are still the ppl that made BF1942 so i'm crossing my fingers and i hope they will fix that kind of stuff sooner or later, maybe this patch will bring us some bug fixes aswell.. who knows right?

[Keith Maniac]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Good job EA/DICE

And to you who don't like it, quit whining and learn how to adapt and overcome.

:cry: What? How can you say that?!?!

I'm like oh-so-CLAN and my whole life is ruined now because I'll have to learn to stay alive in BF2 and not exploit the squadleader rotation with my clanboyfriends!!!

I'm so like totally moving to Quake now because u know, EA is so evil!


Who's with me?!

[Slacker317]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Reading this thread, I believe alot of people are reading this the wrong way. Or is it me?

Removing Squad Hopping does NOT remove spawning on your squad leader. It only removes being able to change squads while dead, thus you cannot spawn on a squad leader in a squad you were not a member of before you die.
This will not remove a squad leader hiding out and allowing his squad members to continuously spawn on him to repeat an attack. You still have to kill that squad leader to end this.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I've never really actually used "squad hopping" as an actual tactic, but I hear that it is a valid tactic, whether it was intended or not. It's being changed because the BF2 team did not intend for "squad hopping" to be used in this manner, regardless of how the community feels about it.

Since, I'm one of the few players that don't use this tactic, I don't feel that it henders my game at all. I DO, however, think that this "fix" is a very low priority with all of the gamekilling bugs that exist.

It's odd to hear that the community is referring to BF2 as a dying game. It's barely a year old. There is much growing for this game. I come from a gaming community where our game is considered "dead". I became part of that community about a year into the game and have been apart of it since. That game is still being played TO THIS DAY in pubs and leagues all over the world. Yes, it's only a very small percentage of what it used to be, but it's not dead. Battlefield 2 is far from that day. On a bad day, you still have 900+ RANKED servers. I filter out the unranked, so I cannot tell you how big that is.

Battlefield 2142 will most likely NOT hurt Battlefield 2 all that much. If anything, it will become the BF:Vietnam of Battlefield 2 (although, I understand Special Forces currently has that "honor"). I don't hear that much enthusiasm for 2142. I have no interest at all in it. And I guarantee you 2142 will NOT kill BF2. Lack of updates, EA dropping support for the game, better games from other parties, more widespread hacks, deminishing server counts, and other things will be the death of Battlefield 2. But that day is long off. Enjoy it while it is here. Shut up and play.

[Revoluti0n]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

the majority of players didnt ask for this to be removed, why the hell would they take something out that we dont want and not put things in that we do?

makes no sense

I agree 100%, so much for competative play too. What I am wondering is why would they add air-dropped vehicles? I mean, are the maps so huge all of a sudden or was it a flair of unoriginality after seeing the QuakeWars screenshots that made this happen? Im losing respect or EA faster than they can change the game with the BS patches.

[imported_Wreck]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Slacker317 you are right.

[tehpwnerofnoobs]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Meh, oh well. I probably won't use OTHER squads anymore, but being the Karkand whore that I am, it's never that long of a walk.

[Riggz]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

sweet...more spawn killing

[shank]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

This will bring out more planning and tactics. You might actually have to be stealthy. No more Rambo, because you can't join a squad and go right back in.

YAY DICE!

[Papi4baby]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

I wouldn't be surprise if the idea came from the same guy who said the attack helo should only carry 8 rockets.
P.S. Hey DICE get the C@CK out of your mouth and quit FR@ACKING up the game.

[BIC]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

This weekend the BFCON06 took place in Germany in the "Alsfelder Hessenhalle".

Taken and translated from http://scene-net.de/



So they've disabled those buttons instead of that leaked "if the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once." solution.

Finally!!! Good to know. Squad Hopping is the only thing I don't like in BF2.

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Reading this thread, I believe alot of people are reading this the wrong way. Or is it me?

Removing Squad Hopping does NOT remove spawning on your squad leader. It only removes being able to change squads while dead, thus you cannot spawn on a squad leader in a squad you were not a member of before you die.
This will not remove a squad leader hiding out and allowing his squad members to continuously spawn on him to repeat an attack. You still have to kill that squad leader to end this.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are not wrong. I know what you mean - but for some people sticking to a squadleader isn't enough. They don't read this the wrong way, they know exactly what will happen. They want INSTANT action each time they spawn. They want 8 mobile spawnpoints to choose from each time they die. They want to keep pushing an attack forward although they are dying all the time.

[SandSkink]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Reading this thread, I believe alot of people are reading this the wrong way. Or is it me?

Removing Squad Hopping does NOT remove spawning on your squad leader. It only removes being able to change squads while dead, thus you cannot spawn on a squad leader in a squad you were not a member of before you die.
This will not remove a squad leader hiding out and allowing his squad members to continuously spawn on him to repeat an attack. You still have to kill that squad leader to end this.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I've never really actually used "squad hopping" as an actual tactic, but I hear that it is a valid tactic, whether it was intended or not. It's being changed because the BF2 team did not intend for "squad hopping" to be used in this manner, regardless of how the community feels about it.

Since, I'm one of the few players that don't use this tactic, I don't feel that it henders my game at all. I DO, however, think that this "fix" is a very low priority with all of the gamekilling bugs that exist.

It's odd to hear that the community is referring to BF2 as a dying game. It's barely a year old. There is much growing for this game. I come from a gaming community where our game is considered "dead". I became part of that community about a year into the game and have been apart of it since. That game is still being played TO THIS DAY in pubs and leagues all over the world. Yes, it's only a very small percentage of what it used to be, but it's not dead. Battlefield 2 is far from that day. On a bad day, you still have 900+ RANKED servers. I filter out the unranked, so I cannot tell you how big that is.

Battlefield 2142 will most likely NOT hurt Battlefield 2 all that much. If anything, it will become the BF:Vietnam of Battlefield 2 (although, I understand Special Forces currently has that "honor"). I don't hear that much enthusiasm for 2142. I have no interest at all in it. And I guarantee you 2142 will NOT kill BF2. Lack of updates, EA dropping support for the game, better games from other parties, more widespread hacks, deminishing server counts, and other things will be the death of Battlefield 2. But that day is long off. Enjoy it while it is here. Shut up and play.

O.K. if thats the case I stand corrected in that particular arguement. I do not squad hop...only swap squad leaders within the same squad. But still I think they should be focusing 100% of their attention on FIXING the game instead of adding crap that is utterly useless. It's like hey the room was dark so I put a lamp in it. Too bad we don't have any bulbs!

About your shut up and play comment.......You are satisfied with the game? So when you order something at a restaurant and it's the wrong thing or undercooked/overcooked you are fine with it? I put up with the fact and accept it as well when a game is released to have a bug issue pop up. But when it has been close to a year and no fixes for the common red/blue bug that is what I and alot of people have issues with. Not to mention countless others when two patches ago they said they fixed it. Uniforms, I can tell for the most part but not always 100%. New people buy this game everyday not knowing this. Even though this game is bug ridden I still play it so I can complain and play at the same time....I BOUGHT THE F*CKING RIGHT TO!

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70968

Seems to me you are complaing in this thread.....Do I feel a "shut and play" comment is in order?

[Kaimahi]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Ok my question is do you think you have got your moneys worth out of the game? I have around 200 hours clocked and I know I have more than gotten my moneys worth infact I consider it a bargain.

I agree you have the right to voice your opinion but it is Dices game and it is their right to take it toward their vision of the game something which they are doing for free. If you have not already I suggest joining an MMO where you have an initial outlay plus monthly fees and feel real pain.

In the end people can either take the changes and adjust as already suggested or leave. The ultimate and in many instances only power of the consumer comes from the second option. I think BF2 is far from perfect (to be honest I think hackers are starting to show their low esteem selves more and more and that if anything is pushing me close to leaving) but I still put in the disk, log in and on most occassions have fun when that ceases to be I'll leave and find something else to play.

[SandSkink]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Ok my question is do you think you have got your moneys worth out of the game? I have around 200 hours clocked and I know I have more than gotten my moneys worth infact I consider it a bargain.

I agree you have the right to voice your opinion but it is Dices game and it is their right to take it toward their vision of the game something which they are doing for free. If you have not already I suggest joining an MMO where you have an initial outlay plus monthly fees and feel real pain.

In the end people can either take the changes and adjust as already suggested or leave. The ultimate and in many instances only power of the consumer comes from the second option. I think BF2 is far from perfect (to be honest I think hackers are starting to show their low esteem selves more and more and that if anything is pushing me close to leaving) but I still put in the disk, log in and on most occassions have fun when that ceases to be I'll leave and find something else to play.

Do you feel you have gotten your money's worth from your Operating System? Why do they keep updating it? It's because of flaws in some form or another. If a product is released with 0 game coded flaws I'll buy what you said. Even if they have few to many as in this game AND they are FIXED then I'll buy our statement. But UNTIL they FIX them we have the right to bitch and moan UNTIL they FIX the friggin problems that plagued the game from the START! Can I sell you some cups with holes in the bottom?

[whoosh]

Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

Its because of the "shut up and play" folks that ea gets away with this crap.

If they would grow a backbone or raise thier expectations then they would be bitching right along with everyone else.

Its EAs own fault people are bitching. Its not like they don't deserve it.

Things had cooled off for a while after the last patch fiasco, then these morons come up with the brightassed idea to change squad hopping BS and dropping humvees. Holy Crap where do these morons come up with this stupid shlt.

If you would have given away a million dollar prize for the next stupid thing EA was going to do.... Nobody would have guessed this...... Thats how stupid it is.

And have they fixed anything in this next patch?????????

Any of the problems that have been around since DAY ONE??????????

So say what you want but this dumb fuxkers worked really hard for the blast they are going to get when this patch comes out. AND THEY DESERVE IT.

And when you ask "have you got your money's worth from this game"? Also ask "has this game ****ed you off because of glitches that should have already been fixed and have yet to be addressed".