Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

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  • Harmor

    #121
    Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

    Originally posted by Kaimahi
    Ok my question is do you think you have got your moneys worth out of the game? I have around 200 hours clocked and I know I have more than gotten my moneys worth infact I consider it a bargain.

    I agree you have the right to voice your opinion but it is Dices game and it is their right to take it toward their vision of the game something which they are doing for free...
    Not free, they are still charging Ranked servers monthly fees to keep the servers ranked. I bet if they didn't do that many people would had stopped playing the game without this awesome 'ranking' and 'award' system. I know I play to fill my awards...gives me a goal to achieve besides beating my best score per round.

    Originally posted by Angelsoul
    I didn't see any of the BF2 community ask for airdroped veichles.

    So you can only ask DICE/EA why do they remove a function that is used in widely in the BF2 community.
    Perhaps EA/DICE added air dropped jeeps so you can now join up with the squadleader you can't spawn on while dead?

    Originally posted by Keith Maniac
    "Cycling" a squadleader in a squad when the SL dies has nothing to do with teamwork. In fact, after 1.3 you most likely need more teamwork to keep your squad up and running. The role of a good squadleader becomes more important in BF2 now.
    Does the meaning of a 'good squadleader' in 1.30 mean that you are better at hiding? Sounds like fun to me.

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    • 18Zulukiller
      Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 1107

      #122
      Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

      Originally posted by evilzucchini
      First of all, bite me. I was completely civil in my response, I was just being straight with you using the facts. It seems that you need to attack me because you know I am right.
      very rarley are any of your response civil you are right everyone else is a noob

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      • Harmor

        #123
        Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

        I wonder if the devs also disabled the console commands to join squads while dead?

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        • LoganX

          #124
          Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

          Originally posted by 18zulukiller
          very rarley are any of your response civil you are right everyone else is a noob
          Says the person that until he got warned was swearing and flaming at everyone.

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          • Slacker317

            #125
            Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

            Originally posted by SandSkink
            About your shut up and play comment.......You are satisfied with the game? So when you order something at a restaurant and it's the wrong thing or undercooked/overcooked you are fine with it? I put up with the fact and accept it as well when a game is released to have a bug issue pop up. But when it has been close to a year and no fixes for the common red/blue bug that is what I and alot of people have issues with. Not to mention countless others when two patches ago they said they fixed it. Uniforms, I can tell for the most part but not always 100%. New people buy this game everyday not knowing this. Even though this game is bug ridden I still play it so I can complain and play at the same time....I BOUGHT THE F*CKING RIGHT TO!

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            Seems to me you are complaing in this thread.....Do I feel a "shut and play" comment is in order?
            Originally posted by whoosh
            Its because of the "shut up and play" folks that ea gets away with this crap.
            I'm sorry that you guys ignored the entire point of my post and focused on the "Shut up and play" end I added. I'd like to retract that part not because I didn't mean it, but because that's all you read. Unfortunately, that's your problem. You focus on the bad and none of the good.

            Do I complain when I don't like something? Yes. I can't stand alot of the bugs either. The restraurant metaphor doesn't work because in the case of eating out, you know that the food is flawed from the minute you get it, and refuse it until it is done. With this game, it's like you bought the food, had it prepared, ate it and accepted it as good, but for however many months later, you decide to go back to the restaurant and complain about the food you had way back then.

            However, in this case, we have a great game, despite the flaws. What I meant by "shut up and play" was that you can sit at your keyboard and complain about the flaws, or you can enjoy the game while you still can. If you'd have read the post, you'd have realized that the comment was made toward those individuals that are calling this a "dead" game.

            Back to topic:
            Originally posted by SandSkink
            I do not squad hop...only swap squad leaders within the same squad.
            Unfortunately, since swapping squads while dead will be gone, so will this. Again, I don't agree with it, but it's not the element that made the game fun in the first place. So, I won't miss it, either.

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            • 18Zulukiller
              Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 1107

              #126
              Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

              Originally posted by LoganX
              Says the person that until he got warned was swearing and flaming at everyone.
              You got what you deserved for being aragant and trying to talk down to me i do it once in a blue moon hes abusive all the time go through all his history if you want and you'll see hes always right and anyone that dosnt agree is a noob.

              NOTE:- maybe im just unlucky but all of his post that i read seem that way

              p.s. You know that tongue of yours that you keep shoving up mods butts you better pull it back out a bit or your entire head is going to disapear up there .

              EDIT:- BTW how can i flame everyone when i had a go at you and only you

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              • Auto-ER-

                #127
                Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                Originally posted by evilzucchini
                There is nothing in the RoE that says that you can't play Quake and get your stats there. So I guess you should be able to play Quake and get it ranked on BF2. Sorry, doesn't float. You have to be playing the game to get it ranked and if the game does not allow squad hopping then you have a few choices: Don't play, play on unranked servers or deal with it.
                You can stop stretching and grasping at straws. Saying you can pull BF2 stats playing Quake for lack of a better discription...is silly.

                And since there are still servers running 1.12 that are RANKED, your comments don't float.


                Or a mod, which was my point.
                Funny, I could say that same thing to you.


                First of all, bite me. I was completely civil in my response, I was just being straight with you using the facts. It seems that you need to attack me because you know I am right.
                That was hardly an "attack". I called your comments trite, which means boring because they were rhetorical, and pointless, and not within the realm of the conversation Mr. Brown and I were carrying.

                Second, I didn't say anything about the RoE. I just said that EA doesn't have to define the game the way you like it. They have a game and if you want to play it ranked then you have to be playing their game. It is really quite simple.
                Refer to my comment about 1.12 servers. I simply made the reference to the ROE to avoid anyone saying "well if you want to play how you want on ranked servers than you should be able to use the P/K exploit servers too right?" comments.


                And where is the public outcry to get DICE to remove the terrible exploit of knifing people with their legs hanging out through a wall? Surely this is a fundamental game play physics that needs to be addressed? People don't care though, because it's an easy, if not funny kill, and they should have been more aware of their position right?

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                • evilzucchini

                  #128
                  Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                  You can stop stretching and grasping at straws. Saying you can pull BF2 stats playing Quake for lack of a better discription...is silly.
                  I couldn't agree with you more. It is entirely silly. What you failed to understand is that I was just using your logic. Granted, I stretched it in an attempt to show you the absurdity of it, but never-the-less it is what you said. The fact of the matter is that you are arguing that because the RoE doesn't cover the fact that you have to be playing the actual game to get a ranked server status that you should be able to reprogram the game.

                  That was hardly an "attack". I called your comments trite, which means boring because they were rhetorical, and pointless, and not within the realm of the conversation Mr. Brown and I were carrying.
                  *yawn* At least be man enough to admit your intent and stop pretending that you didn't intend for it to be personally insulting.

                  zulu,
                  very rarley are any of your response civil you are right everyone else is a noob
                  I am not sure I understand this. ARe you insulting me? If so, where did I call everyone "noobs." Where have I ever even used the term other than when I am "quoting" someone else?

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                  • Red Devil

                    #129
                    Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                    (back on topic please)

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                    • icer22x

                      #130
                      Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                      Originally posted by 18zulukiller
                      I personaly dont agree with getting rid of it and im getting feddup with the patches that change the gameplay but dont fix the bugz in the game. Thats the point of a patch as far as im concerned to fix the bugz not to change the gameplay everytime the minority complains about it.
                      Exactly!!! Bugs first (Like running over rail road tracks damaging your freaking tank!!!!!), everything else later.

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                      • NutButa

                        #131
                        Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                        All this will do is force squad play. I think it's real intent is to stop people from leave/join the same squad when they are dead if the are the squad leader so that someone else becomes the squad leader and they can spawn on them instead of back at a flag. Which my little squad does all the time.
                        But I'm not whinning about it. It'll be fine - it's the same for everyone so we'll just lock down our squad like what I feel is the original intent of the game.

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                        • Skwurl

                          #132
                          Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                          Originally posted by Auto-ER-
                          Deleted by Judio.

                          Take your bloody meds already pal. I hardly think the disabling of a game feature (that is basically exploited 80% of the time) deserves this kind of response.

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                          • evilzucchini

                            #133
                            Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                            Originally posted by Auto-ER-
                            You aren't even talking about the same thing we were, so you can't be using "my logic", as your post was completely irrelevent to the conversation at hand.
                            They are changing the program to eliminate SH. You are arguing that you shouldn't have to play with the game the way it is programmed. So saying that you should be able to play quake and get that added to your ranking is just extend your logic to demonstrate its absurdity to you.

                            Let me try again. Say you think that you should be able to jump 20 feet in the air. The game is not programmed to do this and I am sure that the RoE/EULA doesn't explicitly say jumping 20 feet in the air is unallowed. However, to get a ranked status, you can't alter the game code . . . which is what would be required to get rid of squad hopping.

                            You might as well argue that there should be a server option that allows you to jump 20 feet in the air.

                            I am NOT saying the ROE doesn't cover it, so we should be able to do it (here is an attack) your feeble mind (/attack) can't grasp that referenceing the ROE was simply to keep the conversation from eluding to K/P servers as referring to being able to do what you want. Forget that I mentioned the ROE, it is not relevent to the conversation.
                            If it isn't relevant, then why did you mention it?

                            Deleted by Judio.
                            I did know it and pointed it out to you.

                            Calling your comment trite is not an attack, if you think it is, loosen your collar, because you're way too uptight.
                            I can't believe you are still trying to argue that it wasn't an attack.

                            Anyone that compares this game to another, or uses the "Well go play a mod, or Counterstrike, or <insert alternative game name here>" loses any credible validity to their side, because quite simply, you can do the exact same thing.
                            If the game bothered me so much, that is exactly what I would do. I have stopped playing a bunch of games because I thought their rules were stupid or that they broke the game play.

                            All I was saying is that if you want squad hopping, I am sure there will be plenty of mods that will continue to allow this because it is a popular option. However, it is not what they intended for squads and is basically an exploit and they are fixing it.

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                            • 18Zulukiller
                              Member
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 1107

                              #134
                              Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                              Originally posted by evilzucchini
                              All I was saying is that if you want squad hopping, I am sure there will be plenty of mods that will continue to allow this because it is a popular option. However, it is not what they intended for squads and is basically an exploit and they are fixing it.
                              Name one mod and one thats going to be out soon ?.

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                              • Red Devil

                                #135
                                Re: Patch V1.3 at BFCON - squadhopping still removed

                                Allowing SH in a mod depends if it's hardcoded or not. Sounds like it is.

                                As I have said before I am glad they are limiting SH. I so it all the time to gain an advantage, but it detracts from the gameplay.

                                It will force good SL's to be better SL's and it will force the poor SL's out.

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