Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

[bitvomit]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

ahha what do you want to nerf my grammer then ahah noob.
can only say you grammer is (*&*(&

is very simple:


many people don't even know that it's called squadhopping what they are doing
many people don't use the brains to maxium the feature of the squadleader

and it's tottaly ********. that they most come on forums not know how to use it.


because my first week playing bf2, I though can I take more out of the nice squadleader function.

so mine brains started to work
so don't give me ******** that not everbody can't do it.
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and if don't have nothing to say then about mine grammer. go and play adn other game.

Look man, I really do not understand what you are saying. Honestly, I don't usually insult people this bluntly but since you got the ball rolling, you are STUPID. You should be getting ready for school, not posting on these forums.

stu·pid ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stpd, sty-)
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est

1. Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
2. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.
3. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake.
4. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied.
5. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.

[Terroser]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Your brains are not working properly because I can barely comprehend what you are trying to write. Go finish up some more homework before you attempt to insult me.

Guy don't quote me wrong..

you quote 2 text and merge it...

Look man, I really do not understand what you are saying. Honestly, I don't usually insult people this bluntly but since you got the ball rolling, you are STUPID. You should be getting ready for school, not posting on these forums.
[*] Pointless; worthless: a stupid job.[/LIST]

ahah stupid.. nerf mine grammer again.



guy PHPT is telling something, what I'm telling.
only with a bad grammer.

quote him, oh no you can't you don't have an answear for that, that's why you just nerf somebody's grammer.

[bitvomit]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Gee, like when someone tells you on VOIP to rejoin the squad to cycle the leader? It didn't take much brainpower for me to figure out that I could leave a squad and join a different one to spawn closer to a flag that wasn't controlled by my team, especially when I'm staring at a green dot and several join/leave buttons only seconds after every single time I die.

And yes, it's available to all players. It's not like the tube/C4 which are kit-specific, or copter insta-capping which was limited to a couple vehicles per map, or the overpowered jets which have a learning curve, ANYONE can squad hop.

Just because people aren't aware of a tactic that's defeating them doesn't mean that tactic should be removed. It just means those people need to suck it up and learn to ****ing play.


No, but if every set of $50 out there that thinks one thing is outweighed by $200 that think otherwise, sorry to say, your $50 does mean less. The only time I consider otherwise is when the minority is severely annoyed by something that changing is only a minor inconvenience to the majority.

Again, my main reason for even responding to this is that you said wanting squad hopping to stay irrational and illogical, and your responses are all totally ignoring reality. Reality being that the people that squad hop don't complain about their opponents doing it.

Like I have said before, when the dust settles no one will know what squad hopping is anymore. You are totally ignoring the reality that DICE will remove squad hopping eventually whether it's in 1.3 or a later patch. Just because alot of people use it and like it does not mean that DICE likes or intended squad hopping to be in the game. That's the truth. You will just have to adapt like everyone else and gravitate towards the next exploit. 3 months from now it's gonna be Jihad-hummer-drops or something crazy like that.

[PHPT]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Like I have said before, when the dust settles no one will know what squad hopping is anymore. You are totally ignoring the reality that DICE will remove squad hopping eventually whether it's in 1.3 or a later patch.

First, until there's confirmation, these patch notes are nothing more than a hoax. Second, developers frequently change their minds when their game goes beyond their original vision. DICE in particular is really erratic, just look at the drastic changes to the PKM over the course of 3 patches. Who knows, they may very well decide to nerf squad hopping, only to cave in and put it back a patch or two later.

But of course, that's not the point. You say wanting the feature in is illogical, I refute that and you dodge it, and go off to a "why it's bad" rant. I bring up the original point again, and now you're dropping it entirely by pointing to speculation and "I'll win anyway." Stop squirming around and address the issue at hand, instead of playing grammar cop and whining that by people playing using a strategy that your personal opinion doesn't agree with, that the game isn't fair.

[bitvomit]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

First, until there's confirmation, these patch notes are nothing more than a hoax. Second, developers frequently change their minds when their game goes beyond their original vision. DICE in particular is really erratic, just look at the drastic changes to the PKM over the course of 3 patches. Who knows, they may very well decide to nerf squad hopping, only to cave in and put it back a patch or two later.

But of course, that's not the point. You say wanting the feature in is illogical, I refute that and you dodge it, and go off to a "why it's bad" rant. I bring up the original point again, and now you're dropping it entirely by pointing to speculation and "I'll win anyway." Stop squirming around and address the issue at hand, instead of playing grammar cop and whining that by people playing using a strategy that your personal opinion doesn't agree with, that the game isn't fair.

You have no point or argument that's why I dropped it completly. You are defending an exploit plain and simple. It will be removed eventually and everyone will win (or lose, to you).

[(EWC)HisChadness]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Squad hopping is not available to all players. It's very esoteric, many people still don't even know that it can be done.

Squad hopping is available to any player with a half a brain. Which is about 1% of the people that pub this game. Why dumb down the game even more just because someone is too stupid to leave the squad and come back and spawn on the person still alive. Is it really that hard to figure out?

[bitvomit]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Squad hopping is available to any player with a half a brain. Which is about 1% of the people that pub this game. Why dumb down the game even more just because someone is too stupid to leave the squad and come back and spawn on the person still alive. Is it really that hard to figure out?

Now you're arguing how much brain power you need to accomplish the exploit which is irrelevant. The game is NOT going to be dumbed down. Everyone regurgitates the same canned responses whenever their cherised exploit is in danger of being nerfed by DICE/Valve/Blizzard/<insert evil nerfing company here>. The fact of the matter is that squad hopping can turn a squad of good players into a squad of damn near invincible players.

Tell me, why wouldn't DICE just make the squad leader invincible instead of wasting enormous time and resources to code little known tricks into the squad system to keep a revolving door of squad leaders that achieves the same purpose? Where is the logic in that? Squad hopping is an exploit and that's all there is to it.

[vbl]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Anyway, squad hopping just isn't a game breaker in pub play. I've never, ever seen a forum post on BF2S, PBF or TBF2 complaining about it.

They're just being annoying, or the notes are a sham.

[Brindled]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Squad hopping is an exploit and that's all there is to it.

i dont agree, but if they change it, they change it. who cares?

[dyslexixboy]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Personally I dont care if they remove it, I always lock my squad anyway to avoid the squad hoppers. I dont really see it as a problem.

[Terroser]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Personally I dont care if they remove it, I always lock my squad anyway to avoid the squad hoppers. I dont really see it as a problem.

lz the simpel solution :laugh:

the point's is, the whiners don't what to be pwnd, by somebody.

[JonnyMacFred102]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

I'm just annoyed DICE is screwing around (not fixing, i shouldn't say) the squad stuff when there are WAY mroe important bugs in the game. This is the least of most people's worries.

[WarGimp]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

K. Great guys. Everyone happy to have gotten their E-rocks off with the flaming?

Terrorser, you might think it's "cute" or something writing posts that make no sence. Sorry if english is your second language... but it needs a lot of work. You'd prolly be better off using babelfish or something. You're also kinda... um, how to say it diplomaticly? Ya can't. Yer an idiot.

Bit, It's all well and good to stick up for your beliefs, but there's a line ya gotta draw sometimes. We don't even know if this is real. It's most likely BS. Also, exploits (real or not) are like crack. Once someone gets into it, you'll never convince a crackhead of the basic wrongness. Best to just let 'em wander off and get hit by a bus (if you're so lucky). :p

The bottom line is if this is implemented, some people will be happy and others will rant, rave, and whine, then learn to live with it.
If not, some people will be happy and others will rant, rave, and whine, then learn keepto living with it.

[(EWC)HisChadness]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Now you're arguing how much brain power you need to accomplish the exploit which is irrelevant. The game is NOT going to be dumbed down. Everyone regurgitates the same canned responses whenever their cherised exploit is in danger of being nerfed by DICE/Valve/Blizzard/<insert evil nerfing company here>. The fact of the matter is that squad hopping can turn a squad of good players into a squad of damn near invincible players.

Tell me, why wouldn't DICE just make the squad leader invincible instead of wasting enormous time and resources to code little known tricks into the squad system to keep a revolving door of squad leaders that achieves the same purpose? Where is the logic in that? Squad hopping is an exploit and that's all there is to it.

Which is also why you have a commander and he has tools called the UAV and Scan and you have this little map on the top right of your screen the blinks little red dots when the commander uses those tools. So instead of crying exploit learn to use what's at hand and kill everyone in the contested area and you don't have to worry about squad spawners.

Are you in a clan bitvomit? Just curious, because I still don't see anyone use this 'exploit' in pubs. The only time I see squad spawning used effectively is by a competitive clan.

I'm just annoyed DICE is screwing around (not fixing, i shouldn't say) the squad stuff when there are WAY mroe important bugs in the game. This is the least of most people's worries.

Quoted for GREAT TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sadistic_1]

Re: Squad hopping to be gone in 1.3?

Originally Posted by bitvomit
Squad hopping is not available to all players. It's very esoteric, many people still don't even know that it can be done.

You're joking right?

Sliding down a ladder fast using the shift key is something not everyone in the game knows, so is that now an exploit too? Using "not everyone knows about it" is not an excuse to take it out of the game or call it an exploit. You're beginning to run out of excuses now.


Again, fix the real problems, then worry about the gameplay.