Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

lz teleporting the whole team ??

32 people in one squad. wich mod are you playing?

LOL so you don't even know how to squadhop effectively??

Squadhopping with 32 players is no problem!

Player 1 opens up a squad.
Player 2 joins, spawns, leaves.
Player 3 joins, spawns, leaves.
Player 4 joins, spawns, leaves.
Player 5 joins, spawns, leaves.
....
Player 32 joins, spawns, leaves.

Voila, all 32 players are in the same place now (no matter where you have been before, just use the suicide-teleporter). You need to coordinate it in a way so that not more than 6 people spawn at the same second, but for a clan that's a piece of cake to organize.

OK, most of the time clans only do this with 8 or 12 people...
Most clans don't like to play with more than 12 players, as the "squadhopping gameplay" doesn't scale well to a larger numbers of players, because the squad system is not used as a tool to make organisation easier (chain of command etc) but instead as a cheap teleportation tool.

When splitting your team into groups (called squads) then you could manage the war by the "divide and conquer" principle, but most clanners insist that ALL the people sit around in the same TeamSpeak channel, so you will always hear if someone yells "Spawn at me!!! I managed to sneak through!!"

Show me where a developer from Dice has said that. If that's the case, then I guess I'm done with BF2.

Here: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=26

It was never intended to let people join and leave a squad simply to spawn.

But he also says "it stayed as a feature" in that posting.... which leaves some room for interpretation.

Well OK but I know developers, they ALWAYS try to sell bugs as features

[Terroser]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

What thread are you reading!!??
That's what we're talking about.
One of the aspects of squad-hopping that we're talking about is the ability for a cooirdinated group of people using Squad hopping to get their whole team to an area. Weren't you listening to anything that was written here? Or was Wargimp correct about you?

this thread

and if you know how use it well, you would know it is used to support flags, attack or defend.

because many times if you get attacked most smart people are covering the spawns ( just called a second aspect: less spawnraping)

and it's very easy to coordinate two or more areas.
so not so linair as in bf1942. because if one man get pass the front line. your team can be very sruwd, and that I like.






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wargimp and mrbrown are just whiners and just want the nerf the game 110%

LOL so you don't even know how to squadhop effectively??

Squadhopping with 32 players is no problem!

Player 1 opens up a squad.
Player 2 joins, spawns, leaves.
Player 3 joins, spawns, leaves.
Player 4 joins, spawns, leaves.
Player 5 joins, spawns, leaves.
....
Player 32 joins, spawns, leaves.

Voila, all 32 players are in the same place now (no matter where you have been before, just use the suicide-teleporter). You need to coordinate it in a way so that not more than 6 people spawn at the same second, but for a clan that's a piece of cake to organize.

OK, most of the time clans only do this with 8 or 12 people...
Most clans don't like to play with more than 12 players, as the "squadhopping gameplay" doesn't scale well to a larger numbers of players, because the squad system is not used as a tool to make organisation easier (chain of command etc) but instead as a cheap teleportation tool.

When splitting your team into groups (called squads) then you could manage the war by the "divide and conquer" principle, but most clanners insist that ALL the people sit around in the same TeamSpeak channel, so you will always hear if someone yells "Spawn at me!!! I managed to sneak through!!"


Here: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=26

But he also says "it stayed as a feature" in that posting.... which leaves some room for interpretation.

Well OK but I know developers, they ALWAYS try to sell bugs as features

first of all it's tottaly not logic to spawn with your whole freaking team on one place :laugh:

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

first of all it's tottaly not logic to spawn with your whole freaking team on one place :laugh:

LOL, that's the standard Terroser discussion tactic, if someone proves that his statement was wrong, he starts making jokes and tries to change the topic before someone notices it

[Terroser]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

LOL, that's the standard Terroser discussion tactic, if someone proves that his statement was wrong, he starts making jokes and tries to change the topic before someone notices it

You just can't handle the fact, that most people don't want to nerf there fun anymore

[Strega]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

Well OK but I know developers, they ALWAYS try to sell bugs as features

I've worked on many game teams, and I know this to be true. :)

The best "BUG" ever that turned into a feature????

Tribes 1, and 'skiing'


See, not all bugs are bad :)

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

You just can't handle the fact, that most people don't want to nerf there fun anymore

I CAN handle the fact that some people like squadhopping.
I always asked for an option, I never said "Take it away from everyone because I want it this way!!!"

Still all the indications that squadhopping was unintended remain valid.

[Terroser]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

I CAN handle the fact that some people like squadhopping.
I always asked for an option, I never said "Take it away from everyone because I want it this way!!!"

Still all the indications that squadhopping was unintended remain valid.

I can't handle the fact , that you can not live with it!!
and to whine 4 topics long.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

I CAN handle the fact that some people like squadhopping.
I always asked for an option, I never said "Take it away from everyone because I want it this way!!!"

Still all the indications that squadhopping was unintended remain valid.

Except they decided to keep it, intended or not, as a feature, when they could have nerf it long ago.

[Teaves]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

It also seems that most people actually want it removed, a vocal minority are screaming about the "alleged" change. To clarify, i use squad hopping a lot, but have always considered it to be unfair and would like to see the exploit plugged, ESPECIALLY for competative games.

[Strega]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

It also seems that most people actually want it removed, a vocal minority are screaming about the "alleged" change. To clarify, i use squad hopping a lot, but have always considered it to be unfair and would like to see the exploit plugged, ESPECIALLY for competative games.

It's only unfair if you can do it, and the other team can't.....

[MrBrown]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

Except they decided to keep it, intended or not, as a feature, when they could have nerf it long ago.

Well I must always smile when developers say they "decided" to keep a bug as a feature. IMHO what it means is: EA told them "release the game NOW!!!", and they fixed more important bugs before the deadline (and in the first patches).

OK and as the "feature" is quite old now and some people got used to it and like it, an option to leave it as it is wouldn't be that bad as I already said.

I can't handle the fact , that you can not live with it!!
and to whine 4 topics long.

You generally can't handle people who have an opinion which differs from yours. You are unable to have some kind of normal discussion, like the discussion between me and Auto-ER- for example, exchange arguments etc. You try to pull people down to your level and beat them with experience, but most of the time you fail desperately... :p

[WarGimp]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

Car dropping confirmed!

http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_042506

Air dropped vehicles: Squad members can now send a request up the chain of command for a vehicle to be dropped at their location.

I'll be damned. That was the rumor I was having the most trouble believing.

[Strega]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

Car dropping confirmed!

http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_042506

I'll be damned. That was the rumor I was having the most trouble believing.

I think it would be cool ONLY if you can see the the C130 fly overhead and drop it, so you could shoot it down if you were paying attention. :)

[GreenHornet]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

I can't wait til a Jet or Chopper runs into a dropping Humvee...:laugh:

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

A plane object crossing the map which then spawns the HMMWV with a parachute would be cool, but I doubt that will happen.
Will probably just 'appear' like the crates.