Patch 1.3 rumour discussion!

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[MalikLah]

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http://www.ea.com/official/battlefield/battlefield2/us/editorial.jsp?src=communityupdate_042506

EA have confirmed vehicle dropping and coop mode. Read the article!

[Auto-ER-]

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Well I must always smile when developers say they "decided" to keep a bug as a feature. IMHO what it means is: EA told them "release the game NOW!!!", and they fixed more important bugs before the deadline (and in the first patches).

OK and as the "feature" is quite old now and some people got used to it and like it, an option to leave it as it is wouldn't be that bad as I already said.

Well, in the patch notes it reads as you'll still be able to chose a new squad while dead, but will not be able to spawn on the SL till you spawn and die in that squad once. To me this seems fair, it still let's you leave an inept squad while doing nothing (sitting in the CW screen), and promotes people to stick with their sqaud. Of course I already have a work around, but we'll see who wants to sacrifice more to hop to the action.


As far as it being rushed, we know in the beginning it was, but since then there have been four patchs, at any time they could have removed this feature, I mean come on, they made some DRASTIC changes in the past, obviously they didn't feel this warranted any attention, as it wasn't that bad a side effect.

[imported_Spuddy]

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Interesting, the one about the SL seems to stop (or atleast make it more difficult) squad hopping.

Adjusted awards critieria? WCR now possible?

[DrunkenPirate]

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^^ I missed that one,, I wonder what they have changed..

[Horatio_Bloom]

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The amazing flying Hummwee will be nothing compared to the sight of a Vodnik descending slowly from the stratosphere... At last, the Flying Cow will have a true rival! "This [feature] is the stupidest thing we've heard since Lord Nelson's famous signal the the Battle of the Nile: "England knows Lady Hamilton's a virgin, poke my eye out and cut my arm off if I'm wrong ""

[MrBrown]

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Well, in the patch notes it reads as you'll still be able to chose a new squad while dead, but will not be able to spawn on the SL till you spawn and die in that squad once. To me this seems fair, it still let's you leave an inept squad while doing nothing (sitting in the CW screen), and promotes people to stick with their sqaud. Of course I already have a work around, but we'll see who wants to sacrifice more to hop to the action.

Concerning "workarounds", I guess it would be a good idea to enable SL spawning only after being killed one time by an enemy.

Complete changelist, found here:

http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=22458&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

[JonnyMacFred102]

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Of course, EA would never want to give the whole changelist away because they don't want people seeing what they fixed or screwed up.

I don't get it why they are so reluctant to tell us, it's all some big secret.

[{AWOL}Didge]

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WTF is going on?

No squad rolling? This is an uber nerf aimed at dumbing the game down for the masses. Clan wars will now change beyond all recognition! Everyone has learn't to play the game utilising this feature - why change it now??????????????

I wasn't even aware this was an issue!!!!

This feature keeps the game intense and exciting, changing it will just slow the game play down completely.

I think a lot of clans may now re-evaluate the benefit of running servers now as most of us run servers to play matches on but are open to the public the rest of the time, why should we pay for our servers when the professional and competetive element of the gameplay has been removed.

Wake and Dalian should be fun for the US now!!! - NOT!

the only defence aginst the J10 and the heli's is pradropping and squad rolling to make landfall and take a flag with players spawning.

I really hope this isn't true.

[LoganX]

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Hi and welcome to this thread.
Thanks for reading it and the quick reminder of what practically all 17 pages are about.
Thanks for not reiterating what most other pro-hoppers were saying and bringing something new to the discussion.
Fresh and exiting new input on the debate is always welcome.
:nod: :salute: :rock:

[{AWOL}Didge]

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Thanks for your intuitive and superior sarcasm i find myself completely humbled in your presence.


sorry i must have missed the part about ranked servers and clans.

I apologise completely.

[WarGimp]

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Thanks for your intuitive and superior sarcasm i find myself completely humbled in your presence.


sorry i must have missed the part about ranked servers and clans.

I apologise completely.

It's been a hot button topic for most of this lengthy thread.

I'd point out that yes, EA does play to the masses 'cause that's how you make money. Trying to play to the competitive crowd is a good way to make sure a game fails outright. There's just no market when you compair the number of comp players to the numbers of pubbers/casual gamers/noobs.

I can even state an example:

Tribes 2 suffered from the reverse effect. When it was released, the comp crowd from T1 was very vocal about how noob friendly it was. Still, it managed to climb up the ranks of the most played on-line game, eventually hitting #1. Still, the l33t tribes vets were annoyed and continued to rant and rave. Finally, they managed to get a patch put in to make Tribes 2 more l33t focused.

Overnight it lost more than half it's player base.


A couple years passed and Tribes: Vengeance was announced. It was designed from the ground up to be competitive and geared towards l33t players. The community had a hand in shaping it with their demands that it be fast paced, didn't "force" teamwork, and have entirely skill based weapons.

The game flopped. Horribly.
Without the casual player base, VUG desided that it wasn't worth paying for the distribution of the already completed (and much needed) patch. The game had a life cycle of about 4 months.

That's what happens when you don't play to the masses.

[{AWOL}Didge]

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Thanks Wargimp

I understand and agree with what you've said, but the game is still thriving and appealing to the masses as it is.

the key element to the success of this game apart from the obvious, is the ranking system. This seems to be primarily supported by clans/people PAYING for ranked servers.

If this support is withdrawn then surely the only solution will be for EA to fund a majority of the servers if the dedicated gamers lose interest because a fundamental aspect of the gameplay has been changed?

but time will tell.

[WarGimp]

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Thanks Wargimp

I understand and agree with what you've said, but the game is still thriving and appealing to the masses as it is.

the key element to the success of this game apart from the obvious, is the ranking system. This seems to be primarily supported by clans/people PAYING for ranked servers.

If this support is withdrawn then surely the only solution will be for EA to fund a majority of the servers if the dedicated gamers lose interest because a fundamental aspect of the gameplay has been changed?

but time will tell.

All that said about anti-noob games being a market failure was just me proving a point (ie, noobifying a game doesn't kill it).

I really don't think this is a case of noobification. I think rather, it's Dice trying to get the game to play inline with the way they envisioned it. As a designer type myself, I know it can be really annoying to see your game go off-track. BF games are supposed to be a bit slower paced. There's lots of super highpaced games out there and BF2 is ramped up from earlier BF titles.

I personally think the change will be for the best. I like the idea of having a more stategic battlefield where manuvering into position and the SL role are important factors. I suggest giving it a shot before anyone walks away. New tactics, challenges, and new awareness should come out of this. The clans that will dominate are the ones that adapt well and are able to *think* their way through the battle.

As for servers drying up... meh, I don't think we'll be seeing that either. I know there's lots of pub admins that are going to see this as a god send. Even if some comp clans do pull out, there's plenty of space left on various other servers. I know on any given night, there's a ton of nice ranked servers with good ping that aren't at full capacity.

To make a long story short, the sky is not falling. BF2 will continue on.

[LoganX]

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Look at the Comp people going nuts already.

http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthread.asp?forumid=291&threadid=303868

http://forums.caleague.com/showthread.php?t=30301

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread....D=66130#573341

They just don't get that BF is not about the speed of the game.
Retards.