mailbag: CS 1.4

[j0hn_w00]

Dang..just came out for a few days now and ive already seen people speedhack......

Dang all these cheaters!!!!

When is de cheating ever gonna stop!!!!!

[Rambozo]

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We love you too Neriz.

[gRyPhOn]

there is this place in glendora (Calif.) which is called Comport 1 and u can go there to play computer games, go online an stuff. its c00l nd its 3 $ an hour there which is cheap if u just want a computer for an hour to play Counter-strike or download songs or whatever. Its pretty cool since u can have clan matches where both clans are there........well i think its cool........

[+NeRiZ+]

Aww thx Rambozo :P thats so sweet but I'm a guy =D

[GonePostal]

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+NeRiZ+ wrote..

Aww thx Rambozo :P thats so sweet but I'm a guy =D

And so is he. Get at it you homos. :P

[rizzuh]

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|iP|-poLo wrote..

Yea rizzuh, how is aiming far away and getting a hs a random occurrence? I rarely see "n00bs" get these tough to make shots, while they constantly get lucky close - medium range spraying...

read: http://www.summerblue.net/games/cs_report/



CS recoil is completely random, btw. It creates a cone and selects a random spot in that cone. That ignores the laws of physics completely.



I said headshots at 70 yards, kiddies. That means the person's head is less than two pixels. You cannot aim on a pixel by pixel basis, it is impossible. A headshot at a long distance is always luck, please stop acting like you have some sort of divine skill that makes you get headshots across a map all the time.



I get these lucky headshots all the time, we all do. We should not be rewarded by a factor of three because CS is random.

[Khan]

The thing I don't like about CS 1.4 the most I believe is the silent walking. Now I never used any speed exploit of any kind but I sometimes just tapped my forward or strafe button if I was going to just peek around a corner without making a sound. But now you have to hold the walk key for everything.



Overall I find it a lot harder to stay quiet now. Also the jumping kind of pisses me off. I don't think CS was ever meant to be this realistic, and IMO the new jumping settings kind of kill game play. Maybe others don't think so but I loved being able to cut corners on dust, dust2 or any other map...with the new settings getting around is much more tedious.



But otherwise I believe 1.4 is a version good update...except for the fact that its almost too easy to get headshots now. :)

[Carlsbro]

i never walk in CS, or jumped really unless i wanted to get on a box or whatever. Subsequently i do actually like 1.4 quite a bit. Had that left handed model prob at the start but sorted it, then realised deagles had been turned into blamange shooters, so stopped using pistols so much! Anyway, overall i think 1.4 is better, and thank god the para now actually does something!... on a totally different note has any been using skin packs? i took the latest fusionpack release n customised it a little, but i know there are loads of other packs out there, n was wondering what people thought of them in comparison to the fp 6.5 (i think). Cya :),

Con

[GonePostal]

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rizzuh wrote..



|iP|-poLo wrote..

Yea rizzuh, how is aiming far away and getting a hs a random occurrence? I rarely see "n00bs" get these tough to make shots, while they constantly get lucky close - medium range spraying...



read: http://www.summerblue.net/games/cs_report/



CS recoil is completely random, btw. It creates a cone and selects a random spot in that cone. That ignores the laws of physics completely.



I said headshots at 70 yards, kiddies. That means the person's head is less than two pixels. You cannot aim on a pixel by pixel basis, it is impossible. A headshot at a long distance is always luck, please stop acting like you have some sort of divine skill that makes you get headshots across a map all the time.



I get these lucky headshots all the time, we all do. We should not be rewarded by a factor of three because CS is random.

I should get all biased right now like rze in his disbelief that there is skill in 70 yard headshots but I'm not... oh what the hell. OMFG THERE IS SKILL IN 70 YARD HEADSHOTS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PUT THE X-HAIR OVER THE GUY'S HEAD AND WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!



Seriously though rizzuh, it's not impossible. I can make a demo for you when I get home. BTW, what resolution you play at? The higher the resolution, the easier it is because there are more pixels.

[aZiAn-X]

spec = very good

jumping = annoyin

accuracy = okay

cheats = gone.. i think?

[0 blah 0]

first off, thanks a lot to csnation. i was able to get the 1.4 update the day it came out instead of having to wait a couple of days.



i think 1.4 has made a lot of nice changes. the bomb and hostage locators on the radar help a lot. eliminating the glock/secondfunction/awp trick that some people are notorious for brings great relief. first person spectator mode allows people to actually see if someone whom they claim is cheating is actually cheating (like if they guy's cursor justs jumps all over the place or locks on some guy's head or if he just stares straight into walls all the time) and it also allows for a way for extremely skilled players to clear their names of being a cheater before being unfairly banned. the map overviews are a fun addition. you can now observe from a bird's eye view as countless ct's close in on a lone camper from every direction. custom maps (like cs_cock) may have to be updated because of it. although i've yet to play the new maps, i've heard they are both excellent, and will be trying them out the next chance i get. i'm still debating with myself if i preferred to have been able to move the hostages as a t. it wouldn't ruin the fun of the ct's since they can always see where the hostages are on their radars.



although not certain, pistols in general seem to be less accurate. playing cs_deagle5 was much harder, especially considering that your enemies can't jump around much, which theorically should make them easier to hit. of course it could have been lag (70-80 compared to my usually 10-20). the unsilenced colt appears to be more accurate, although, again, not certain.



one slight concern is the jumping. i respect that some people see it as a benefit since it removes bunnyhopping or it seems more realistic. for me, though, i preferred being able to jump around. see, what makes cs fun for me is not so much that it's fairly realistic as it is the joy of being a badass. everyone loves to be the one that throws the flashbang down the airduct in de_prodigy into a group of heavily armed t's, then rush in after it, popping two dazed t's in the head directly in front of you, grab their weapons, pop the two behind, then switch to your pistol to finish the last one camping behind the box. there are countless scenarios like this. maintaining mobility was an important part of being able to pull something like that off. jumping, although not as important or even always necessary, was also helpful. now those two things are imcompatible as jumping renders the same effect as being shot; you slow down. it also makes it harder for the guy rushing under bridge in de_dust to dodge awpers. it could also possibly make single player in condition zero a little boring for me. of course, the new jumping isn't all that hard to adjust to, or that annoying, i would just have preferred to have it the old way.



finally, i have been hearing this over and over, and it's really bugging me. the dynamic crosshair, at least to my knowledge, does NOT make guns less accurate. guns have always been less accurate when you run and more accurate when you crouch. the dynamic crosshair merely creates a visual representation of your accuracy. so to all you dumbass whiners, it IS still possible to aim while you run.



thanks a lot rizzuh, excellent website

[verbal kint]

the new spectator modes are amazing fun to toy around with. i personally think a lot of aspects of knifing were ruined with the new version, but what can you say? people are now obsessing over realism, and running around throwing knives in the back of people while jumping up all over the place to dodge bullets isn't 'realistic,' but it was fun. i think the jumping was a good change, but not one i particularly like. something i'll probably get used to, though. i don't quite like the new hitboxes though, they're considerably more realistic, but on cs_estate, i walk out of the CT street and get insta-headshotted. It's kindof depressing, but hey, that zoom out feature as i die is quite fun. the walking is a bit slow, but missing the jumping is more noticeable. i just miss the the fun aspect of knifing the game had, but hey, we'll find new ways to play with the knife.

[+NeRiZ+]

GonePostal wrote..



+NeRiZ+ wrote..

Aww thx Rambozo :P thats so sweet but I'm a guy =D



And so is he. Get at it you homos. :P

Haha funny postal but the wind on my planet blows straight for the ladies :P

[deku]

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I must say that I wasn't expecting so much important changes in the new CS 1.4 patch. I think that CS took too much time before implanting these new changes. It should have been done like along time ago but unfortunately it wasn't and ALOT of people got used to a mid realistic gameplay including myself. Ok, people wanted it more realistic but hmm I never saw someone complanning about the fact the the non-realism was making the game boring...in the other hand, I have heard alot of pissed people saying that realism added in CS made the game boring. I think CS developpers should have kept these changes for their other upcomming game, CS:CZ, wich would have been a good start to develop new type of gameplay. CS has completly changed now. It's a new type of gameplay wich is completly different from the 1.3 gameplay. I cannot even play now since I get hella huge CPU lag wich is the only thing I'm really pissed about in the new patch.



About the bunnyhoppers, I think that change was useless (jumping is harder) and was requested by non-skilled players. guys...bunnyhoppers were not that hard to kill, just dont stand in front of them hopping for your bullets to reach the bunnyhoppers. This patch has just raised anger in the community when actually most of things were find before. CS was unique because of the non-realistic stuff and we all liked that at one point. CS team did a good work though with new features such as the new spectator mode and anti-cheat. I might get used, but I sure lost my addiction to CS and I think the 1.3 was fine for every1 when actually 1.4 is not...



btw, I cannot have left-handed weapon mode, is that normal?



Regards

[])3@6][_3-Saint]

i wish they would do 2 things just take out the scores of players and just show team scores and maybe the combined team kills. For all the people complaing about head shots the reson why more ppl r getting them is because they have been fixed so stop fucking complaining if u get a HS thats good but i dont relly care as long as i kill some one. me personally id like the whole HS thing to be removed of ALL weapons so no one can complain about it..........

fucking ppl complaining ...... grrr sagga frazzin razzer makes me mad and for all u ppl who like to jump crouch and aim at some ones head and pull off a head shot i will pay u to see u do it in real life......... fucker