Hate BF2 1.2

[maranello]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

thats right... you need NO SKILL whatsoever to take down enemy planes.

that j-10 is pulling his hardest turn to the right, missile spam spam spam, guaranteed frag. and btw its 2 missiles that hit him, just the smoke coming off making it look like hes being hit more than twice. anyway, im not up for discussion with any of you, especially you warwimp.

once more.. HAVE FUN playing your fluffy pink game, all you have to do is point and click, i hope your happy now

If you came here just to say you are quiting BF2, you are wasting time in these forums (both ours and yours). We are having a mature discussion. If you have a personal problem with anyone, solve it in a private manner (use PM), don't bring it here.

[Lugal317]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Okay... again guys, this isn't real life, therefore real life AA DOES NOT PERTAIN to this discussion.

[nobodyhsthsnmyt]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

If you are in a squad, and if you have 2 squads under your control Nothing will pi$$ you off...Trust me.

If you are a good jet pilot that knows aircraft physics, how to manoeuvre, your capabilities, you can have the best damn AA guy in the ground, he won't be able to shoot you down.

What do i mean? I mean play some Falcon 4.0 AF, play some flight simulator, and then some little LOMAC, and come back and you will see AA (the ones in the game) is a joke against any aircraft.

The key is to know when to attack and not to attack, know how to make a dive, and so on.

Yes the aircraft in those games are not the same. I agree, but all the games that have aircraft in them have to obey general fundemental physics laws.

Oh of course if you are just some guy who bought BF2 6 months ago and have no experience with planes, doesn't know anything at all about plane physics, who just bought a joystick so he can "pwn them noobs with 1337 skillz" then say good bye to your good old days...

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha BAN ME

[WarGimp]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Wargimp... if that is your BF2 name... you have ALMOST 2hrs in an airplane, how can you say you know about angles and such???

'Cause I rarely bother going for 'em on ranked servers 'cause people do stupid things around 'em. When have flown, I usually did something totally unexpected and went after enemy planes. Almost all my ranked plane kills are air to air.
Bolster that with many hours of me and buddies playing on unranked servers just so we could dog fight and... well, I've got more experiance than my stats would tell ya.

That said, I don't consiter myself a great pilot. Still, I know quite a bit on the subject (I read 'n stuff).

[maranello]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha BAN ME

lol:)

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Okay... again guys, this isn't real life, therefore real life AA DOES NOT PERTAIN to this discussion.

Exactly. 3 minutes ago I was thinking. Allright. Dogfights will be all about evading lockon and cat-mouse play. But seriously. This vid clearly shows that all you have to do is- lock on, wait for flares, and then let loose. No skills needed. N00bs can take out experienced players with zero effort. This isnt player vs player game anymore. Which is why it is unbalanced at this form.

[Lugal317]

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You read? YOU READ? wtf are you reading that allows you to understand how a game is developed/planned/put together/ and played?

AGAIN, this is NOT real life!

I'm so irritated about it being 3am and me... taking you all seriously.... :laugh:

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

You read? YOU READ? wtf are you reading that allows you to understand how a game is developed/planned/put together/ and played?

AGAIN, this is NOT real life!

I'm so irritated about it being 3am and me... taking you all seriously.... :laugh:

Im sending all this to hell. Im off guys. I´ll be back when you all have tasted the 1.2 a bit more so I can be convinced to try it all out myself. Most of you agree that 1.2 is the critical point.

[nobodyhsthsnmyt]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

funny how you, "wargimp" have a negative KD ratio on pretty much everything besides a tank. LOL

[WarGimp]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

You read? YOU READ? wtf are you reading that allows you to understand how a game is developed/planned/put together/ and played?

AGAIN, this is NOT real life!

I'm so irritated about it being 3am and me... taking you all seriously.... :laugh:

Well, I read a lot in the industry... tech manuals, design and mechanics theory, interviews with devs, community feedback... ya know. Related matirial to broaden one's mind.

Also, when you understand the fundamentals of real world dogfighting, it's not hard to adapt them to simulations... realistic or arcady simulations.
Oh and you can't use "this isn't a simulation" to deflect compairisons to the real world. Yes, it's a game and not ment to be uber realistic... but it should be believeable and "feel right".

For example (using your vid):
Scale has been reduced dramaticly within BF2. To make working game mechanics that support good fun aircraft you need to make allowances for the reduduction in the area that they have to fly in. Thus, the planes have to be more manuverable and accelorate faster than real ones. The same must be true for AA missiles. Thus, what would appear to be a rotten RL angle, becomes a reasonable one in the game.

Hehe, I didn't lose ya did I?

Basicly, I'm saying what you did in the vid was a good kill in the mechanics I would expect to see.

Now you've read something (read? read?) that can forarm you for future encounters. Go make some more good kills. Fighter targets aren't on the ground anymore...

[Mekstizzle]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

3 topics now i've said this, i'll keep saying it so people understand.

- AA defences too strong. ''n00bs'' can shoot anyone down now?
Who's fault is that? The ground troops for letting this person get on the AA + The pilot for going into an area without knowing wether the AA is being used or not

End.

[nobodyhsthsnmyt]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

dont pay too much attention to warpimp. he does read and try whatever else he can to keep up but he has some disabilitating issues he cant help himself.

so dont make fun of him, or his negative KD ratios on all classes, all kits, and all vehicles. :|:

[Daz]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

I slightly agree.

From what I have played I like it but the biggest problem is taking ages to go prone. It wasnt even whored and never ever heard anyone complain you go prone too quick and now its all ****.

I liked it before when support had to go prone, it isnt realistic getting accurate shots running holding a ****ing pkm. They are adjusted to be used outside of their main purpose which sucks. Also I got pkm'ed from litterally full sniping distance, I couldnt kill the guy because he was so far away my scope couldnt line up on his pixel it kept jumping to either side. But he got me.

I agree though, I like that alot of the guns are really good but this is also bad news, as any old bugger can pick start off and be instantly good with that gun. Rather than taking skill to learn the PKM and G3 etc.

I think we will definately see some MAJOR annoyances soon. Where snipers and various other things will become as annoying as noob tubing, bunnyhopping and arty spammed.

[LBC|Jester]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

3 topics now i've said this, i'll keep saying it so people understand.

- AA defences too strong. ''n00bs'' can shoot anyone down now?
Who's fault is that? The ground troops for letting this person get on the AA + The pilot for going into an area without knowing wether the AA is being used or not

End.

ANYTIME I SEE AN ENEMY SOLDIER MANNING AN AA UNIT, I TAKE HIM OUT, ITS THAT EASY!

I think some people are blowing this whole issue way out of proportion here.

The AA is finally the way it should be!!! I never jumped into it because hell, every time I would fire the missiles at someone after they fired their flares, the AA missiles never even came close to hitting them, it was bs.

Many thanks to DICE for finally fixing the AA. If you don't want to get killed by the AA, start targeting them instead of thinking you're safe when flying!

[Datajack]

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Oh of course if you are just some guy who bought BF2 6 months ago and have no experience with planes, doesn't know anything at all about plane physics, who just bought a joystick so he can "pwn them noobs with 1337 skillz" then say good bye to your good old days...

Although I don't always agree with what you say, and your bias censorship...

That's quite well said! Loved the "l33t" speak quoting too.