i'm not really sure what you guys are referring to when you say "noob tube" but i assume it's the grenade launchers you can attach to certain guns. i really don't see what the problem is with them. and yes i have been killed by them quite a few times. i think it's cheap when you get killed by one at 2 feet, but for anyone who's served in the armed forces, you would know that, yes, one could (especially hit in the chest) could kill you. but it does take some skill to use them from a distance. and as far as the martyrdom grenade dropping perk, if you hear one drop after you kill a guy, sprint away. but that's just my opinion. i don't like it either and i don't use it anymore. and usually noobs use it. i know i did when i first got it. but there's always ways to counter other perks. use extra health and maybe you won't die from noob toobs or grenades, not sure. but hope everyone has fun with the game.
i agree with 95% of this (being a soldier) you do what it takes to kill your enemy, no matter what, of course not hacking/glitching. but what the game provides, you use
I see that we completely disagree. 
It's interesting that I keep saying the same thing over and over again: It's in the game. The game has been tested extensively. There is no reason to remove it. If you don't like it, don't play or limit your play so your not frustrated by this. I've NEVER been killed by Martyrdom on Overgrown, perhaps that should be your map of choice.
If I'm a n00b, fine. I have no problem with labels, as it is stupid to apply such labels to beings who undergo constant changes in attitude, thought and behavior as we humans do. But, this is something experience teaches you, not someone like myself in a forum somewhere.
I may be a n00b today, but I'll kick your @55 on a MP server any day because I play the game to the fullest extent possible and I don't whine because a game doesn't meet my internal rules. I'll P90 you, M203 you, use Martyrdom, Last Stand, the Voss, a J-10 or whatever it takes to win (short of cheating/exploiting).
Why? Because it is a military combat game. That's the way military combat works. I can just imagine the forces coming home from Vietnam going, "No way, man... we're not doing that anymore because they don't fight fair." Or, in the modern day, "Those IEDs are so ruining the war for me. It's tough to find a good firefight anywhere because the enemy keep hiding and blowing up our vehicles..."
Not going to happen because we've got real men and women over there who realize that real war is ugly. Our pretend war in CoD4 is not supposed to be pretty, either.
If we come to an agreement NOT to do any thing which annoys others, I'm cool with that on a private server. But, on the pubs, I'm gaming to help my team win. If that means I decide Martyrdom is appropriate, I'll use it and you'll just have to deal with it or find a different place to play.
Some folks need to grab their cohones around here and act like men. :salute:
I'm done arguing the point that the game is fine and does not need a change in features. You guys can keep talking about it and wasting your time if you want, I'm going to do something productive and doesn't make me feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of immature spoiled brats who have to have things their way or not at all. That's how my 5 year old acts...
And, I would not call Martyrdom "skill-less" either. I've cooked a grenade and run into a building with 6-8 enemy in it. When the nade finished cooking, it killed me and four enemy. My Martyrdom nade killed the rest after I was dead.
That one act changed the course of that game. It forced the other team to respawn on the other side of the map and halted their defensive camping which was killing our side slowly.
It's interesting that I keep saying the same thing over and over again: It's in the game. The game has been tested extensively. There is no reason to remove it. If you don't like it, don't play or limit your play so your not frustrated by this. I've NEVER been killed by Martyrdom on Overgrown, perhaps that should be your map of choice.
If I'm a n00b, fine. I have no problem with labels, as it is stupid to apply such labels to beings who undergo constant changes in attitude, thought and behavior as we humans do. But, this is something experience teaches you, not someone like myself in a forum somewhere.
I may be a n00b today, but I'll kick your @55 on a MP server any day because I play the game to the fullest extent possible and I don't whine because a game doesn't meet my internal rules. I'll P90 you, M203 you, use Martyrdom, Last Stand, the Voss, a J-10 or whatever it takes to win (short of cheating/exploiting).
Why? Because it is a military combat game. That's the way military combat works. I can just imagine the forces coming home from Vietnam going, "No way, man... we're not doing that anymore because they don't fight fair." Or, in the modern day, "Those IEDs are so ruining the war for me. It's tough to find a good firefight anywhere because the enemy keep hiding and blowing up our vehicles..."
Not going to happen because we've got real men and women over there who realize that real war is ugly. Our pretend war in CoD4 is not supposed to be pretty, either.
If we come to an agreement NOT to do any thing which annoys others, I'm cool with that on a private server. But, on the pubs, I'm gaming to help my team win. If that means I decide Martyrdom is appropriate, I'll use it and you'll just have to deal with it or find a different place to play.
Some folks need to grab their cohones around here and act like men. :salute:
I'm done arguing the point that the game is fine and does not need a change in features. You guys can keep talking about it and wasting your time if you want, I'm going to do something productive and doesn't make me feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of immature spoiled brats who have to have things their way or not at all. That's how my 5 year old acts...
And, I would not call Martyrdom "skill-less" either. I've cooked a grenade and run into a building with 6-8 enemy in it. When the nade finished cooking, it killed me and four enemy. My Martyrdom nade killed the rest after I was dead.
That one act changed the course of that game. It forced the other team to respawn on the other side of the map and halted their defensive camping which was killing our side slowly.
i agree with 95% of this (being a soldier) you do what it takes to kill your enemy, no matter what, of course not hacking/glitching. but what the game provides, you use
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