Why is attacking an uncap bad?

[The_Misfit]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

We allow it on our server, and as the auto message says "its a WAR".

ffs, talking about 100 meter starts etc.. sounds flat out gay. I got a great idea, defend a flag once you cap it, or go cap another. Being capped out and base raped just means your team sucks, so they get what they deserve.

Its the servers that make an issue of this that end up being the ones where someone has a full squad in their spawn 2 minutes into the match. Don't make an issue over it and for the most part your team will cap flags and then work on the uncappable. Taking out CO's assets or having a jet keep your jets off the ground is part of the game and a big help in winning the round.

[Mr. ADHD]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

^^pure garbage.

Attacking uncappables is not the problem...spawn camping is. Just because it's in the game, doesn't mean that it was meant to be there. It's one thing to spawn camp with a Rifle...it's another to use armour and not to make an attempt for the flag.

[MainEacK]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

Actually, the side that has the uncap is not always at the advantage. In Karkand, the USMC ticket count keeps draining unless they cap a flag inside the city. If the MEC does their job, they will prevent the USMC from doing just that. Also, the uncappable flag is very far back so the armor takes a while to get to the frontline. I cannot think of a map where the uncappables are unbalanced.

Sharqi

[RocketPunch]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

Stat whores always finds a way to justify their actions. At the end of the day all they really want are easy points.

[The_Misfit]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

^^pure garbage.

Attacking uncappables is not the problem...spawn camping is. Just because it's in the game, doesn't mean that it was meant to be there. It's one thing to spawn camp with a Rifle...it's another to use armour and not to make an attempt for the flag.

Spawn elsewhere nub, or better yet, spawn AT / Spec Ops and deal with the problem. I never spawn camp w/armor, in fact I don't use armor that much, but having guys come up with lame rules to counter their inability to think their way out of the problem = gay.

Your logic is basically "We can't deal with this spawncamping APC, so we'll kick anyone that does this."

[biogas]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

^^pure garbage.

Attacking uncappables is not the problem...spawn camping is. Just because it's in the game, doesn't mean that it was meant to be there. It's one thing to spawn camp with a Rifle...it's another to use armour and not to make an attempt for the flag.

Trying to take flag with the tank, is the most stupid thing that could happen in city maps. Tank in cities is for cover fire (that is spwnraping), infantry has to go for the flag. So if u see tank raping for extended period, it means that infantry is not good at all to make an attemp for the flag. And no one never answered the main question: if u get raped why dont u spawn on another flag or on squad leader???

[TomGazpacho]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

Well its a Uncap for a reason, no body has any purpose to even be in the uncap, unless their destroying assets, if your in there for any other reason, your just there to spawn camp. It's quite silly.

So true! Killing in an uncap is as unsporty as punching your opponents in a basketball game.. just because you can doesn't mean it has to be part of the game. Stop padding your stats and play the game!

[mrkidkill]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

I love giving people a hard time, so i attack uncaps ^_^

I love doing it with claymores and mines under unused vehicles ^_^

i just wish i was in the persons room who just spawned and got mined to hear them yell "wtf?!"

Best time i had though was i put a bunch of C4 on a idle LAV on karkand, and a bunch of guys loaded into it. *beep*

[infinite_loop]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

^^pure garbage.

Attacking uncappables is not the problem...spawn camping is. Just because it's in the game, doesn't mean that it was meant to be there. It's one thing to spawn camp with a Rifle...it's another to use armour and not to make an attempt for the flag.

Regardless of a game developer's "intent", in any game I've ever played, people will do whatever they can to maximize their kill count, no matter of how sportsmanlike it may be. Until the devs remove the ability to attack uncappable flags or reduce spawncamping, people will do it. I couldn't give 2 ****s about pissing off someone because I spawncamped them. Find a way out of the situation, spawn elsewhere, or realize your team sucks and gtfo. Too many crybabies in here, gawd.

[~WPN~Major Ursa]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

So true! Killing in an uncap is as unsporty as punching your opponents in a basketball game.. just because you can doesn't mean it has to be part of the game. Stop padding your stats and play the game!

Your logic is flawed. Basketball has a rule against punching an opponent in the face. If you break the rule, you can give your opponent chances to increase thier score through free throws or technical shots and you could be thrown out of the game. If you are a star player, then you have given your opponent and advantage and at the same time put your team at a disadvantage.

This debate can be rendered moot by arguments made by both sides of the debate.

Sportsmanship is not a definable action without a standard to grade it by. What you feel is sporting may be completely laughable from someone else's perspective. Rules allow the idea of sportsmanship to be more clearly defined. If the rules set forth by the operator of the game do not allow for play that falls within your definition of sportsmanship, then you should not play. You will only become upset.

Right or wrong, the attacking an uncappable base debate is settled every single time by the rules of the server.

[delemorte]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

i think uncap attack is a good tactic in any sceanrio. Depriving your enemy of resources or attacking their flanks is a sound strategy in war and gaming.... stop whining and fight your way out of it!!!

[zipp0r]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

people dont like baserape because: they play as usmc and like to sit on the carrier deck waiting for vehicles.
they want to sit there, with no competition or suppressing fire.

servers that say no attacking uncappables are statpadding servers, not for points but so they restrict their deaths by trying to stop people from killing them in that area.

there is nothing better than being a sniper and ejecting pilots from their vehicles and killing players that think theyre safe!!

also once a team is beaten back, they have no right at all to demand the other team to let them have an easy time going to cap flags.

[Abyss_of_Borg]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

Attacking an uncap is the right thing to do if you have all flags. You don't want the other team to counter attack or even to regroup and take a flag. If your uncap is getting attacked your team must suck because they have no flags and deserve to be attacked and baseraped. It's not hard to defend your uncap. You probably have ATs and TOWs. And even jeeps+C4. To defend against tanks and apcs.

[DesertFalcon]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

it ruins the fun for people at the uncap since they are not able to move out or do anything. the only server i dont mind base rape on is sharqi why the hell does the MEC need 3 Uncaps.

[Canuck]

Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

I would think it ruins the fun even more when you get baseraped at a cappable flag, so not only do you die as you spawn, but you also lose the spawn point and all your vehicles. Where as getting base camped in an uncappable you never have to worry about that.

Seriously though, an APC or a tank sitting in an enemy uncappable should mean instant death for that vehicle. The only reason it is a problem for some is simply due to the complete absence of teamwork in pubs.