Why is attacking an uncap bad?

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  • mrkidkill

    #46
    Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

    Im not sure what server it was, but they said it best.

    "BaseRaping IS allowed, Use TeamWork to counter the attack!"

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    • Fireflash

      #47
      Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

      Ppl whine about jet power then forbid attacking uncaps....then there goes the chance of destroying the plane or chopper or stealing them or at least distracting the pilots caring about their jets or helos.

      No attack uncap rules also open a door of a mild form of commander stats padding because he could sit in the middle of the field inside any kind of vehicle or ground defense building commander, kit + vehicle time + getting all sort of awards without worrying about getting killed.

      If your team lost all flags, then they screwed somewhere and deserve the consequences.

      Getting spawn killed? Spawn somewhere else or delay your spawn.

      Learn to prevent or defend.

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      • colony

        #48
        Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

        Originally posted by -=(86th)=-Skins
        Well, usually because people think that it is bad because you are going after the kills and not the flag. The whole way to win the game is to limit the amount of flags your enemy can spawn at, so attacking an uncap while a cappable flag belongs to your enemy doesn't make sense.
        Wrong.

        Whenever an enemy is killed and they respawn, a ticket is lost for their team. Killing IS helping your team.

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        • Papi4baby
          Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 1189

          #49
          Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

          EA gave server owners some leniency, and so we shall use it. I believe on some restrain, on our server we allow uncap attack, but on foot or jeeps only, you cannot use armor or air vehicles on the uncap. If you want to snipe in the uncap go ahead, plant c4 on the taking of jets go ahead. Heck you can even steal everything you want, but dont attack with armor or air vehicles. I think is fair, once more if you dont like the rule, find a server that allows what you like. Once more is not war is a game, we have a duty to try to keep is as enjoyable to our customers(yes the players) as possible.

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          • Chris_Redfield
            Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 5986

            #50
            Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

            Originally posted by colony
            Wrong.

            Whenever an enemy is killed and they respawn, a ticket is lost for their team. Killing IS helping your team.
            My personal experience. Be as good as a jet pilot as you want. Flags and the lack of flags available to the enemy are a faster way to victory than your killing run. You take all flags, and all that is left is the uncap. I dont mind "ending" the game then. Rounds are short, frack it, suck the loss up. But theres no need to keep the enemy air force grounded for the whole round, especially if youre a kick-*** pilot who can take them head-on in a fair fight.

            Bottomline, flags > kills. One-two jet pilots can not win the game, even if they kill like crazy.

            Originally posted by papi4baby
            EA gave server owners some leniency, and so we shall use it. I believe on some restrain, on our server we allow uncap attack, but on foot or jeeps only, you cannot use armor or air vehicles on the uncap. If you want to snipe in the uncap go ahead, plant c4 on the taking of jets go ahead. Heck you can even steal everything you want, but dont attack with armor or air vehicles. I think is fair, once more if you dont like the rule, find a server that allows what you like. Once more is not war is a game, we have a duty to try to keep is as enjoyable to our customers(yes the players) as possible.
            I think this kind of ruleset is the best in terms of balance. If you want to give the OpFor a chance to keep the game going. A fresh start can always be good, but a continuing game, especially when theres a chance for the enemy to get back on their feet and offer a great game, is even better.

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            • infinite_loop

              #51
              Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

              Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
              Bottomline, flags > kills. One-two jet pilots can not win the game, even if they kill like crazy.
              I think a big reason why people disagree about things in games is that not everyone has the same goals. Sure, capping flags helps your team win the round, but assuming that everyone cares about winning rounds is a bit ignorant. Playing pub servers over the years has made me apathetic to my pick-up team's success. All I care about is having fun and hanging with my clan members/friends. Winning or losing isn't fun or frustrating, I don't care either way, as long as I get alot of kills and have fun. You'll find alot of people with the same mentality.

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              • Skwurl

                #52
                Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                Originally posted by infinite loop
                I think a big reason why people disagree about things in games is that not everyone has the same goals. Sure, capping flags helps your team win the round, but assuming that everyone cares about winning rounds is a bit ignorant. Playing pub servers over the years has made me apathetic to my pick-up team's success. All I care about is having fun and hanging with my clan members/friends. Winning or losing isn't fun or frustrating, I don't care either way, as long as I get alot of kills and have fun. You'll find alot of people with the same mentality.
                It's a toss up.

                If it's the last flag left, then by all means attack until the game's over. However, constantly raping the carrier/base when other flags are available can be insanely irritating for the other team.

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                • infinite_loop

                  #53
                  Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                  Originally posted by Skwurl
                  It's a toss up.

                  If it's the last flag left, then by all means attack until the game's over. However, constantly raping the carrier/base when other flags are available can be insanely irritating for the other team.
                  And for some people it's fun to irritate the opposition. Like I said, everyone has different goals.

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                  • sleazell

                    #54
                    Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                    Originally posted by delemorte
                    i think uncap attack is a good tactic in any sceanrio. Depriving your enemy of resources or attacking their flanks is a sound strategy in war and gaming.... stop whining and fight your way out of it!!!

                    I agree....the only time I think attacking an uncap is not right is when on gulf of oman or wake. At least all the others you have a chance by land to flank around the action to get to another flag. However, most people try to stick around and fight instead of running like hell to another flag. But when your stuck on the carrier and you have to rely on a transport with a jet or heli on you, there is no chance at all.

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                    • Skwurl

                      #55
                      Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                      Originally posted by infinite loop
                      And for some people it's fun to irritate the opposition. Like I said, everyone has different goals.
                      Well if your main goal in BF2 is to piss off the other team by essentially spawn killing, perhaps you shouldn't even be playing.

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                      • infinite_loop

                        #56
                        Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                        Originally posted by Skwurl
                        Well if your main goal in BF2 is to piss off the other team by essentially spawn killing, perhaps you shouldn't even be playing.
                        I didn't say it was my main goal, but if it were one and I enjoyed it...why would I stop playing?

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                        • Skwurl

                          #57
                          Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                          Originally posted by infinite loop
                          I didn't say it was my main goal, but if it were one and I enjoyed it...why would I stop playing?
                          Well, for starters, it's lame. Secondly, it's cheap. And thirdly, it's immature.

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                          • infinite_loop

                            #58
                            Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                            Originally posted by Skwurl
                            Well, for starters, it's lame. Secondly, it's cheap. And thirdly, it's immature.
                            In your opinion.

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                            • Skwurl

                              #59
                              Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                              Originally posted by infinite loop
                              In your opinion.
                              Oh, give me a break.

                              I think you may find that raping a carrier is generally considered a noob no skill tactic. Not only on these forums, but in the BF2 community in general.

                              If you want to do it, go ahead. Just don't cry when you kicked from the one of many servers that enforce it.

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                              • infinite_loop

                                #60
                                Re: Why is attacking an uncap bad?

                                Originally posted by Skwurl
                                Oh, give me a break.

                                I think you may find that raping a carrier is generally considered a noob no skill tactic. Not only on these forums, but in the BF2 community in general.

                                If you want to do it, go ahead. Just don't cry when you kicked from the one of many servers that enforce it.
                                And it's just another symptom of a whiney, crybaby playerbase. People who care about their e-image obviously won't be doing much spawncamping. But those who play for fun will continue, there's plenty of servers out there to farm.

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