Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

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  • St.Sasquatch

    #16
    Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

    blackhawk used to be so fun! but nobody uses it the right way.. anyone who has not seen "ambush at mashtuur" (great movie btw!) should go watch it right now! if the blackhawk could get a little more armour, i dont mean it should survive a tv, or 5 AA's but it should stand some stones and party crackers. this will mean that more people will use the blackhawk the right way (to shoot people! BAAM!) and power up the guns a little, it will make much better gameplay.. most people just take the blackhawk, get to where they need to and let hawky crash.. poor little hawky..:cry:

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    • Turnip

      #17
      Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

      The blackhawk is meant to get from one place to another, why is it poor hawky?

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      • Dandred

        #18
        Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

        I'm quite dissapointed that people are only talking about the Black Hawk.


        Don't people think all choppers should have close to equal abilities??

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        • Turnip

          #19
          Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

          As long as they fly they are good enough to transport me anyday of the week.

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          • [MyIS]Dan
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            • Aug 2005
            • 1060

            #20
            Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

            They should make the Blackhawk guns how they use to be, and make the Blackhawks weaker so they can be shot down easier, dont make it where 10 bullets will bring it down, just decrees its armor a little bit :)

            This way it is equal, other helis have more armor but not as much fire power, Blackhawk has the fire power but not as much armor, meaning there would have to be teamwork to use them in a good way.

            Just my view btw

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            • Beerman

              #21
              Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

              They are meant for transport, not battle only armour

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              • imported_Apostle
                Member
                • May 2005
                • 1182

                #22
                Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                Then why have guns on the transport helicopters at all? They are useless unless you've got great aim, or are stationary. The Blackhawk was overpowered, but maybe they should have increased the ability of the other transports helo's guns rather than decreasing the power of the BH's.

                Either make the guns useful or just remove them and increase the armor.

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                • Talus
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6854

                  #23
                  Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                  You know what BH guns are GREAT for? Taking out vehicles...try it. You'll see.


                  People are just upset that you can't score an insta-kill by aiming in the general vicinity of your foes.

                  Sure, it may APPEAR as if you're scoring direct hits with the new BH minigun but I'm betting it is because the pilot isn't keep it steady and it's lag showing mis-hits.

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                  • imported_WereWolf

                    #24
                    Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                    Certainly make more splash damage, or radious w/e...I know, I used to spray at 1 ONE! guy and it would show the hit indicator, but he didn't die :S

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                    • Talus
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6854

                      #25
                      Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                      Maybe the hit indicator is bugged.

                      Maybe it's showing splash damage that actually isn't causing any damage.

                      Maybe the hit indicator should only show if you score a DIRECT hit, which most BH gunners never get.

                      You ever try gunning in the MEC Mi-17 or Chinese Z-8? Hmm...it's JUST like the BH guns now. Funny about that.

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                      • imported_Apostle
                        Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 1182

                        #26
                        Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                        Originally posted by Talus
                        You know what BH guns are GREAT for? Taking out vehicles...try it. You'll see.


                        People are just upset that you can't score an insta-kill by aiming in the general vicinity of your foes.

                        Sure, it may APPEAR as if you're scoring direct hits with the new BH minigun but I'm betting it is because the pilot isn't keep it steady and it's lag showing mis-hits.
                        Only buggys and jeeps though, of course. It is still not always easy to hit, and hit them enough to kill them, still in this situation the BH is actually the most likely to be effective out of the three transport helicopters. Higher rate of fire?

                        Mind you, it is ridiculous when you do get a good angle on a ground trooper, and the miniguns are blasting bullets at him, "ooh, that tickles!" he shouts.

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                        • EliteRazgriz666

                          #27
                          Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                          Well I disagree with any of u that dont believe the BH guns should b improved. Comon, for goodness sake they r miniguns, jus coz of the title "transport", the blackhawk has to its name doesnt mean it cannot b a killin machine. It is designed to support ground troops and also for transport. I miss the days when it was "overpowered", many ppl have agreed they were the best days, where teamwork was shown and the blackhawk would b feared and respected on which it so rightly deserved. Even if i was MEC, that wouldnt dishearten me, coz there r ways to take down a blackhawk pre-1.2, i took them down many times with IGLA while commandin the whole level. Part of a blackhawk squad was highly entertainin and so far no ofa element of Bf2 has given me the same entertainin quality as the good old days of the blackhawk.

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                          • Roger Smith
                            Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1390

                            #28
                            Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                            Originally posted by Apostle
                            Then why have guns on the transport helicopters at all? They are useless unless you've got great aim, or are stationary.
                            exactly and thats a good thing. i think most of the blame for the weapon not working is the pilot, a good pilot can get lots of kills for his gunner.

                            it comes down to this, splash damage on a transport vehicle makes no sence!

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                            • Pyryck

                              #29
                              Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                              Here's my suggestion about the transport helo's. Remove the mini-guns from the BH and drop in some 249's or M60's or 50cals. Even the armor out to equal for all 3 transports. Then all the transports would be even across the board.

                              Oh, and limit the ammo for the MG's. None of this endless ammo supply.

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                              • Roger Smith
                                Member
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1390

                                #30
                                Re: Beefing up Transport Choppers on all sides?

                                making everything the same is boring and the easy way out of the issue, but there really is no issue. the vehicle works as its supposed to.

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