No Vehicle option details

[BryanG]

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I just need to hear a compelling arguement as to why this mode NEEDS to be ranked?

It just doesn't make sense.

The fact that this mode is going to exist at all should be enough for most players...

It's basically a MOD.

The CORE, BASIC, and UNALTERED GAME should be ranked. That way, fairness and balance is NEVER a problem.

If the mode is unranked only, nobody will play it and it will be a waste of time. Stats are huge. I never play unranked, neither does anyone I know.

IO should be no vehicles, boats only. Available for all maps.

Don't tamper with damage/health. As others said, I can already knife a guy TWICE before he dies, 3-4 would be a joke.

[$kelet0r]

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If the mode is unranked only, nobody will play it and it will be a waste of time. Stats are huge. I never play unranked, neither does anyone I know.

IO should be no vehicles, boats only. Available for all maps.

Don't tamper with damage/health. As others said, I can already knife a guy TWICE before he dies, 3-4 would be a joke.

1. DICE should be designing this for the clans not the common player so there is no logical reason why it should be ranked (what they are actually doing is another issue :hmm: )
2. No vehicles? So do you intend to play any map other than Karkand or do you selfishly want to prevent me for example having a good game on Dragon Valley because you want no vehicles, not even humble transports, ingame?

Madness.

[BryanG]

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1. DICE should be designing this for the clans not the common player so there is no logical reason why it should be ranked (what they are actually doing is another issue :hmm: )
2. No vehicles? So do you intend to play any map other than Karkand or do you selfishly want to prevent me for example having a good game on Dragon Valley because you want no vehicles, not even humble transports, ingame?

Madness.

You goddamn crybaby nobody will make you play IO servers. Note I said AVAILABLE for all maps. Don't be a *****.

And clans can screw themselves, EAs business is in the ranked servers, clans can modify servers however they want for matches.

[$kelet0r]

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You see - selfish
I would love to play IO servers - I think IO could breathe new life into maps like Dalian Plant and Daqing etc.
However, they would be UNPLAYABLE with no vehicles to transport the player between flags -all because you selfishly want to play as a medic on Karkand

Like I said - madness

[damunk]

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Put transport vehicles in the game, nerf the guns on it if you need to. This would definately be better for this new gamestyle, on big maps half of time your walking from flag to flag---> boring

Also the engineer and anti tank classes will have purpose, so you will also fix everyone going medic/sniper...

[BryanG]

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You see - selfish
I would love to play IO servers - I think IO could breathe new life into maps like Dalian Plant and Daqing etc.
However, they would be UNPLAYABLE with no vehicles to transport the player between flags -all because you selfishly want to play as a medic on Karkand

Like I said - madness

See there you go making bullshiat assumptions. Karkand is my least favourite map, and medic isn't among my top 3 kits. Just admit your full of ****.

IF A SERVER HAS AS MANY PLAYERS AS THE MAP IS RATED FOR THERE WILL BE NO SLOWDOWN IN FIGHTING.

[$kelet0r]

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See there you go making bullshiat assumptions. Karkand is my least favourite map, and medic isn't among my top 3 kits. Just admit your full of ****.

IF A SERVER HAS AS MANY PLAYERS AS THE MAP IS RATED FOR THERE WILL BE NO SLOWDOWN IN FIGHTING.

Temper temper - after all I'm not the one being selfish

OK so assuming you are telling the truth that
- Karkand is not your favourite map
- that you are rarely a medic
what maps do you play and what kit? Because if you had even bothered to download the beta patch you might not sound so clueless. The only infantry killing classes are support and medic. If you are not one or the other, there is very little need for you as another class.

Maybe you enjoy walking 200, 300, 400m between flags, I know I don't. So in your informed opinion I would have your guarantee that without any vehicles at all, that the fighting will be constant and intense on say Dragon VAlley 64 player, that I will be able to move from firefight to firefight no problem. That I will be able to flank behind the enemy?


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Does the phrase faux pas mean anything to you?
Your selfishness and then rudeness has no place here

[BryanG]

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Let me give you a hand.

Temper temper - after all I'm the one being selfish

OK so you are telling the truth that
- Karkand is not your favourite map
- that you are rarely a medic
what maps do you play and what kit? Because if I had even bothered to download the beta patch you might not sound so smart. The only infantry killing classes are the ones I suck at. If Im not one or the other, there is very little need for me as a human being.

Maybe you enjoy killing 200, 300, 400 enemies between flags, I know I don't. So in your informed opinion I would have your guarantee that without any vehicles at all, that the fighting will be constant and intense on say Dragon VAlley 64 player, that I will be able to move from firefight to firefight no problem. That I will be able to flank behind the enemy?


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Does the phrase stupid idiot mean anything to me? Yea
My selfishness and then ignorance has no place here

You are a noob. I said it. I hate to say it but I did. You are the typical whiner who can't keep up with the others.

I am in no way being selfish when I am for expanding the options of gameplay.

You are selfish for trying to restrict the possibilies.

If you must know my #1 map is Oman, 104 hrs
#2 Wake 95 hrs
Karkand 32 hrs

Your #1 map IS KARKAND

#1 Kit Sniper 90 hrs
#2 AT 60 hrs
Medic 50 hrs

For you medic is 4 hrs under yourr most played kit -- HY PO CRIT

So shut up and complain about real issues ya damn Irish.

As for Dragon Valley, if there are no vehicles theres only one place people will spawn, closest to the enemy flag.

[Teh_Spambot]

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Hey bryan, i have been on dozens of servers that have slowdown with the same number of players as it is rated for..... using capitals does not make your opinion worth more, nor does it make it correct. What it does is make your opinion worth less.

About maps like Daqing oilfields.....nobody plays them, and for a reason. Dragon valley is an excellent vehicle map....with no vehicles it would suck incredibly much, unless you are on high graphics and want to admire the scenery with a 10 minute wandering walk before even meeting an enemy, and if he shoots you first, its another wandering walk for you. But dont worry, if you shoot him, you probably wont see him again for half an hour!

More health? Allows people to make decisions while under fire? Incorrect, it allows idiots to blunder across streets and do more stupid things, despite being consistently shot in the head by skillful enemies.

How about making a headshot with a M16 actually kill someone? The gun needs a buff anyway.

I certainly hope no vehicles keeps standard BF2 health. And standard bf2 respawn time....why 30 seconds? If the emphasis is on squad play, there should either be a medic in your squad or not....if theres no medic in your squad, youre screwed, if there is, youre revived within seconds...

All a 30 second respawn means is that its like another verifying client data each time you get claymore whored....which should be removed from infantry only, or at least tk teammembers. Obviously a limit of one claymore to sniper is a very good idea....the current 2 limit is not only not working, but 2 is 1 too many.

[Degenetron]

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So are all of these changes applied in no vehicle mode? or can it be selected which ones to implement? I dont think I like the idea od decreased damage, its already too low fo rmost weapons.

[Jedi_Joe]

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So shut up and complain about real issues ya damn Irish.

do you have something against Irish?

[(4THIDUSA) SSG H.]

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Stay on topic, no Country bashing, its not needed

[Retuner]

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wrong

[imported_Sim]

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Try it out and let us know. We want to make to make sure this patch kicks butt

If DICE wants to make this a kick butt patch then start focusing on BUGS and other issues in the game.

All of the maps in BF2 were made with Vehicles in mind, now you guys are wasting this whole open beta on a new mod instead of real issues.
If people want to play footy wars try WC3 , its going to be boring as hell on 95% of the maps in BF2 so why waste all this time on it?

When will we see a beta version with Bugs "FIXED" in it?

[imported_Chael]

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I really cant understand why people cant communicate. Transports or no transports.... why not JUST MAKE A SERVER OPTION?! I mean is it really that hard? to compromise?

And also, lets say that IO was allowed on a large map; if it sucked people would leave and servers wouldn't run large maps. So whats the difference if its allowed or not?

A few pages back a guy was saying that there weren't enough boats for 64 players playing US on wake. 4 in the carrier, two on the island; if you take one another will spawn making 12 boats each holding 5(?) makes 60 players... pretty close.

As far as I can tell, this will increase the teamwork factor, but if its unranked it will not affect the majority of players.... don't know about that one.

I also dont like the extra health. It might help if you're walking for a half hour to a base, but then wouldnt that decrease squad play?

I really think this mode would be a lot of fun, especially wake with boats no matter how long I have to wait for one. Oh, if there were only boats, what about a boat drop?... maybe not?