1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

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  • Shadowace

    #166
    Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

    Originally posted by mlkmnz
    Was he talking about jets or choppers though?

    how could i be talking about jets? would be kinda hard to hit them with a MG? :P

    Originally posted by Wargimp
    Not if you're smart.
    I routenly hunt attack choppers with buggies!
    If you use your wits to get yourself into a position where they aren't likely to spot you, you can do some serious damage to choppers in very little time. If they see you first... well, you're in trouble. That goes for most other aspects of the game tho.
    i'm talking about getting spawned camped by helis, besides unlesss they are almost dead once you start shooting at them they can just dive to get out of your fire


    and on a side not another idea is they can give eng some sort of jammer that they can place on the ground that stops jets/heli from use weapons in a small area for so many secounds

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    • WarGimp

      #167
      Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

      Originally posted by Shadowace
      how could i be talking about jets? would be kinda hard to hit them with a MG? :P
      Actually, as I mentioned in a previous post, it wasn't long ago that I managed to bag 2(!) F-15s in the same round. Yeah, they're hard to hit, but not impossible.

      i'm talking about getting spawned camped by helis, besides unlesss they are almost dead once you start shooting at them they can just dive to get out of your fire
      Not exactly true. You can down a full strength attack chopper with just a little more than a full burst (before overheat) from a mounted .50 cal. I'll commonly hop in a buggy and chase the bloody things down. Park it, switch seats, open up with the .50 until it overheats, then switch again to the .30 and finish the job. If he moves out of my limited field of fire, I jump back in the driver's seat and manuever to line him up again.

      As for being spawn camped... well, anything (including a knife) can spawn camp you. If you are getting mowed down repeatedly, spawn somewhere else! No sense in feeding your tickets to whatever kind of camper you might deal with.

      and on a side not another idea is they can give eng some sort of jammer that they can place on the ground that stops jets/heli from use weapons in a small area for so many secounds
      Ummm...
      I can't think of a polite way to express how I feel about this suggestion, so I'll refrain from comment.

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      • Shadowace

        #168
        Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

        as far as overheating, the pilot just needs to throw a few missiles at it, and getting spawned camped by a infintry is way diff because you can do something, where with heli you just gota hope the gunner lags on ya

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        • WarGimp

          #169
          Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

          Originally posted by Shadowace
          as far as overheating, the pilot just needs to throw a few missiles at it, and getting spawned camped by a infintry is way diff because you can do something, where with heli you just gota hope the gunner lags on ya
          I'm going to take a wild guess here and suspect that you don't fly choppers much.

          "Just" throw a couple missiles (and I assume you mean rockets) at you? Dude, if you start chewin up that chopper before he sees you, most of the time he's dead if he doesn't break. Try it. Don't be obvious about it. Move your jeep out of locations where you're gonna be chopperbait. I've got a bunch of hiddy holes I like to use for putting down those birds... unfortunatly, since I play on the same server most of the time, the other regs have started to figure 'em out and just avoid my trap.

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          • PHPT

            #170
            Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

            Originally posted by Wargimp
            Move your jeep out of locations where you're gonna be chopperbait.
            You don't even need to do that. If you see the thing pointing at you, hit F1 and zoom around while he futilely attempts to spray you with missiles. Half the time they're doing it in a panic and immediately slam into a tree.

            Only thing that can really kill a jeep effectively is the gunner.

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            • Brindled
              Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1068

              #171
              Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

              Originally posted by Wargimp
              I've got a bunch of hiddy holes I like to use for putting down those birds...
              LOL... 'hiddy holes'
              i do the same thing, w/ whatever and lie and wait. defending a point can be more detrimental to winning, compared w/ running headlong into an enemy base. if you have good pilots on your team and they do their job, defending their spawn point from wouldbe rapist becomes a must.

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              • |ASNL|Ragamuffin

                #172
                Re: 1.22 - The AA is dummied down again...sigh

                Umm... has anyone even got proof that AA has changed at all since patch 1.21? :S... Thats what this thread seems to imply but it was not noted as being modifed in the changelogs.

                I belive the AA is pretty sweet at the moment, it will hit a plane and chopper most of the time, bar mabie a j10.

                And mobile AAs are absoultly deadly.

                I'm a pilot and I feel planes are well balanced considering they are planes after all, EXCEPT the J10 which needs a nerf as it can dodge missles too easily.

                And I cant belive people still complain about attack choppers after they have been heavily nerfed in almost all areas...

                They have less armour then they used to.
                One tank shell will instantly them now.
                Number of Rockets halved.
                Range of TV missles halved.

                I think that a nerf was partialy justified but I mean come on... if this continues they will end up as useless as the blackhawk is.

                The AA is fine it can reliably shoot down everything, cept the J10 nerf that.

                I think many ground ponders problem is the high scores that good pilots can rack up, but think about it these vehicles, choppers especially are very fragile but can unleash a lot of hurt if used well, this is how they should be.

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