PlaneWhore: yet another AA vs jet thread (renamed)

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  • FiveO

    #16
    Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

    Originally posted by Bird Killer
    With the exception of very good pilots. And at this point, I believe good pilots do deserve such as score if they manage to earn such a score.

    We'll have to agree to disagree. Any time someone goes 70+ with no deaths...somethings over powered or over armored.

    Ever seen a person in a tank go 70+ to none? I never have. My record is 41 I believe. And that happened once. Next closest is like 25-30.

    This evens the playing field a bit.

    Whats even more idiotic is that this a$$hat didn't even give it a week or two to adapt. He immediately assumes that the AA change is his fault and apologizes for it... :laugh: :laugh:

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    • eeeahn

      #17
      Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

      give him a break....the guy obviously can't get laid so what else has he got?? "NYUK NYUK I'm a good fighter pilot....in a video game.....everyone shower me with adoration and praise!!"
      I mean sheesh i dont run around telling people how good of a DDR player i am....oh wait.....CRAP!!!

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      • FiveO

        #18
        Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

        Originally posted by The 13th Raptor
        If you would get your head out of your rearend for a split second and check the score boards you'd notice that those pilots that were good before the patch are still good now with only their K / D ratio nerfed.

        Exactly. And give them a few weeks and the good pilots will learn how to actually fly, use things to their advantage instead of just flying around with impunity.

        This AA change will separate the flymen from the flyboys.

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        • BirdKiller
          Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 785

          #19
          Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

          Ever seen a person in a tank go 70+ to none? I never have.
          What if I told you I did? Will that change your argument? :P
          Personally, even before this patch, I did not see any pilots manage to go over 60-0.

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          • Talus
            Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 6854

            #20
            Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

            Please...let's not repeat the usual cliche'd insults.

            I'm only leaving this thread open for a few more minutes

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            • BirdKiller
              Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 785

              #21
              Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

              Oh please, this is one of the first topics that is actually amicable to all! Even at the 20th post, there are no flames or *****ing :)

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              • Talus
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 6854

                #22
                Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                Oh...there are flames. But since we all need to vent about being raped by plane whores up until v1.2, I think we need this

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                • FiveO

                  #23
                  Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                  It was mentioned in another thread...but I'll say it again.

                  AA should threaten planes. Period. In the previous patch the planes were not threatened by AA in any major way.

                  Complain all you want. Don't think its going to change now...

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                  • imported_VISTREL

                    #24
                    Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                    I agree with planewhore. Now ya all infantry guys - stfu! you got your prize - noob AA. Be happy about it.

                    I don't care about AA but aircraft's missles are screwed up bigtime. Dogfighting is definitely not fun anymore.

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                    • BirdKiller
                      Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 785

                      #25
                      Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                      The new AA missiles now has changed the way dogfights are fought, interception and tracking the target are now the main focus of skill than using vulcans. Now, evading missiles, that'll be one skill that will be immensely difficult to improve on.

                      Ironically, the new AA missiles has actually let me destroy countless enemy aircrafts in high ping servers (100-170) while at the same time not getting shot down from them.

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                      • Sneaky Assassin

                        #26
                        Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                        Originally posted by VISTREL
                        I agree with planewhore. Now ya all infantry guys - stfu! you got your prize - noob AA. Be happy about it.

                        I don't care about AA but aircraft's missles are screwed up bigtime. Dogfighting is definitely not fun anymore.
                        Got an issue, here have a tissue.

                        I think us ground pounders needed it, so many times I have been stuck on the carrier on wake or not been able to get out of the uncappable on oman due to being constantly raped by flygirls.

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                        • WarGimp

                          #27
                          Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                          PW, what a tool. He's not even close to as good as he thinks he is. I was flying tonight (seems there's lots more planes open for some reason) and did just fine, thanks.

                          More than that, I had fun. Dog fights are perty seriously hairy now. Death comes fast. I like it. In fact, this nerfing of the planes has inspired me. I think I'm gonna break down and pick up a joystick.

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                          • scott123

                            #28
                            Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                            Its funny how (the origional poster) we are talking about ground forces being the whiners, but it appears in the copy/paste post its actually the other way around.

                            The reality is; ever since BF2 came out, maps were dominated by aircraft and artty. When I say dominated, I don't mean in score, but rather gameplay. Usually one good chopper pilot set the entire tone of the match from the beginning to the end. Wake Island most of the time was simply a bombing campain.

                            The people flying aircraft haven't done anything wrong, it was Dice who apparently didn't do enough beta testing to ensure their #1 goal of "ballance" was achieved before release. Maybe its impossible to determine ballance to this degree until it goes retail. The patch to improve effectiveness of ground troops on aircraft was long overdue because most of the people playing on a server are ground troops, not aircraft. Additionally, what has been changed simply allows ground forces to take out enemy aircraft. To say it could be done effectivly before the patch, it not being honest, because about the only effective thing was the tendency to take out friendly aircraft even though they were never locked .

                            Obviously, I can understand why the aircraft whores would be upset, but don't blame us ground troops, blame Dice for releasing the game the way it was instead of the way it is now. Since the patch I have played more close matches than ever before, so obviously Dice did the correct thing.

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                            • Dodg3rman

                              #29
                              Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                              Played this morning quite a bit tried AA like everyone else but still got shot all the time. Pilots are just targeting AA sites thats all. No problem, get on with it.

                              jets coming in from high so dont pick them up , good to see theyve adapted already. still plenty of helis up and still shooting all the armour its just we now have a chance on the ground, its levelled things up and i think its great
                              I still dont want to sit in AA all game so i'll take my chances like everyone else.

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                              • Princess_Frosty

                                #30
                                Re: PlaneWhore = A$$hat

                                Hopefuly in before the lock!

                                This guy obviously has a massive ego, which is strange because rather than embrace the new challenges aircraft pilots face he simply uses this as an excuse to abandon his perfect score and play on foot (or probably not at all, you can bet we'll see his resignation from BF2 before long) But to think he personaly had a large effect in the decision to nerf the planes is just really over the top.

                                No one person should be getting 70-0 as a personal score in a team orientated game, if this is possible its a game flaw which needs to be looked at. The problem is pilots have got used to basically being invincible and using this as basis for getting stuipidly high scores, they believe they have the right to flaw the entire server repeatedly so its no fun for anyone on the ground on the enemy team. But this simply isnt on, planewhore clearly stated that he's been banned from most 64 player servers because of his whoreing, i wonder why?! Maybe because there was clearly a balance issue with the planes and since EA were taking to long about it server admins (to protect the servers reputation) have to ban people repeatedly whoreing and stomping one side into the ground.

                                No one unit in the game should have total dominance over the whole map, a skilled pilot should be able to rack up kills, but should not be invinceable.

                                The TRULY good players will overcome new challenges and adapt to changes in the battlefield, one thing is for certain being bashed into the ground time and time again by the same pilot because no one can take him down is NO FUN, and this is not a matter of skill, its simply a case of the AA not being effective enough to hit a good pilot. Now it is, live with it or leave, I dont think anyone will be sorry to see the back of this guy!

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