Ricochets: Confirmed!

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  • BlueBunny63
    Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 357

    #46
    Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

    Originally posted by GotheriK
    The bullets in the BH minigun are explosive anti-personell rounds. So yes, they DO infact explode, causing shellshock and damage to people nearby. It is NOT Ricochets damage. Bullets dont turn around 180 degrees.
    You're kidding, right?

    The minigun fires .308 win rounds, a.k.a. 7.62x51 NATO. Those are most emphatically NOT high-explosive. They're usually AP (armor piercing), ball (regular lead core), tracer, incendiary (not explosive) or a combo, like API (armor piercing incendiary) or APIT (adding tracer to the previous).

    These are teeny tiny rifle bullets, guys. .308" in diameter, 150-170 grains in weight. Not explosive, flame-throwing, or any other Hollywood BS.

    And yes, they sure will ricochet. For a mile or two, easily. Especially if they glance at a shallow angle off water. Depends on what they hit, but they'll bang around all over the place, but guess what? They're no more powerful than the regular .308 Winchester rifle rounds you can buy down at Walmart. Yes, the bullet types are different, but No, they're not explosive.

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    • jonnysanchez

      #47
      Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

      i dont know about the bh miniguns, but there is richochet in bf2. if you've botherd to look inside the bf2 manual:

      page 17

      Be careful when you fire at an enemy tank. Tanks now have reflective armor, so if you fire a round at an enemy tank at the wrong angle it might richocet off and hit a nearby teammate.

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      • WarGimp

        #48
        Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

        The manual is FULL of wrong info.

        Check out the bit where it talk about using artillery to destroy the enemy's command assets. It don't work niether.

        I suspect that when crunch time came, they had to pull features out while the manuals had already gone to print. It happens.

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        • UnrealAlex

          #49
          Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

          Originally posted by BlueBunny63
          You're kidding, right?

          The minigun fires .308 win rounds, a.k.a. 7.62x51 NATO. Those are most emphatically NOT high-explosive. They're usually AP (armor piercing), ball (regular lead core), tracer, incendiary (not explosive) or a combo, like API (armor piercing incendiary) or APIT (adding tracer to the previous).

          These are teeny tiny rifle bullets, guys. .308" in diameter, 150-170 grains in weight. Not explosive, flame-throwing, or any other Hollywood BS.

          And yes, they sure will ricochet. For a mile or two, easily. Especially if they glance at a shallow angle off water. Depends on what they hit, but they'll bang around all over the place, but guess what? They're no more powerful than the regular .308 Winchester rifle rounds you can buy down at Walmart. Yes, the bullet types are different, but No, they're not explosive.
          We're talkign about the game here.

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          • Splinter
            Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 461

            #50
            Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

            Iam pretty sure there are Ricochets in the game I was on wake standing on the carrier waiting for a BH to spawn with my squad, I was getting bored so I start shooting my M-95 at the ground near a teammate after mayde 3 rounds I get a team damge warning and I wasnt even aiming at him.

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            • Drevor

              #51
              Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

              all weapons have a certain aim range (i have no idead if that is the correct translation). If it is set for 100 meters then you will fire above the crosshair when shooting at a target at 50 meters and below it when shooting at a target at 200 meters. The M95 is the weapon where this effect is most noticeable. See the large M95 bullet drop thread for more detail.

              There is no ricochet effect in BF2. Some shells BH/AA/APC are explosives and thus inflice damage without hitting directly.

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              • alwo

                #52
                Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                I've never witnessed any ricochets in bf2... you want ricochets? Play America's Army
                As for the miniguns on the black hawk, it's splash damage (used to simulate the extremely high rate of fire)

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                • filamentsnow

                  #53
                  Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                  there's ricochets in the tank rounds :). there are few videos on it

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                  • TriggerHappy2005

                    #54
                    Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                    Originally posted by PsYcHo.KiLLa
                    So a virtual ricochet without the ricochet?
                    ROFL!!! It's called splash damage.:laugh:

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                    • Sir. Shpox

                      #55
                      Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                      Originally posted by bitvomit
                      Umm, no idiot. When was the last time you saw BH minigun bullet impacts make explosions? It does not. You are confusing it with the Essex cannong. Stop pulling stuff out of your colon.
                      He's no idiot, he's more than correct and there was no need for harsh words and he was mearly trying to clear things up.

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                      • Moke

                        #56
                        Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                        This message is hidden because bitvomit is on your ignore list.</SPAN>

                        So I guess I dont need to remove him to read this.... hmm... hes been on my list since his "Noob Ejector thread"

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                        • IVfluids

                          #57
                          Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                          Originally posted by filamentsnow
                          there's ricochets in the tank rounds :). there are few videos on it
                          Yah, there is a good one in the second vid in my signature :laugh:

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                          • Tenshi

                            #58
                            Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                            I think wether you call it ricochet or splash is actually fairly subjective. Think about it.

                            In real life a ricochet is the bullet bouncing, splash is debris being displaced.

                            Neither of these things actually happen in BF2. What is termed as splash isnt actually bits of ground bouncing up nor would ricochet actually be the bullet bouncing.

                            They're just generalisations of reality.

                            Calculating ricochets is a bit more mathematically complex than simple damaging everything within a range of the impact. Then concidering with a blackhawk youre firing god knows how many rounds per second. The calculations must be intensive.

                            But thats not to say its impossible. Maybe its diong both. Someone find ini files that suggest both are possible.

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                            • FierceTeapot

                              #59
                              Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                              damn army boys trying to prove how big each other's phallus is.


                              its a game. get over yourselves.

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                              • Jensen

                                #60
                                Re: Ricochets: Confirmed!

                                I don't know bitVomit... sounds to me like the majority agrees with me. Thanks for calling me an idiot though.

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