BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

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  • Jonesey1141

    #16
    Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

    Originally posted by [DUCKS]Black_Duck_1
    Support's Kit:

    The winner is the PKM. The new MG36 has a very similar accuracy. PKM has a higher damage but lower fire rate. So the two weapons basically take the same amount of time to kill a healthy target. Now how the weapon feels in your hand is a different story. Remember that those numbers are the true story. every weapon becomes a good weapon when you get used to it. if you can get used to the PKM then it is the absolute winner. Why pay more money and try to get ranks/unlocks again if the two weapons are effectively the same?!
    Are your numbers for the MG36 in burst or full-auto mode? I find that burst mode gives noticably less recoil than firing 2-3 round bursts in full-auto mode.

    Also, I really like the MP7; it gives engineers a chance at medium-range opponents. I snuck into the enemy main base last night, laying mines on empty choppers and vehicles and holding my own. Now if we could only teach friendly players what the Red Skulls mean!

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    • F-1

      #17
      Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

      The numbers are for both burst/full-auto modes. for full-auto you need to take the "deviation per additional shot" into account.

      Yes I put a lot of time for a casual player into this. I actually decided to do a favor for the rest of those who care.

      I forgot about the smoke-grenade replacement. However, I think a smoke grenade is better because you can escape from a tank for example. Those stun grenades do not help much against armor vehicles (I guess!). You can instead through a hand grenade on the enemy and kill them instantly. I am sure some people can be creative and come up with some scenarios about how to use them in a better way.

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      • imported_Damanexor

        #18
        Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

        Originally posted by [DUCKS]Black_Duck_1
        I forgot about the smoke-grenade replacement. However, I think a smoke grenade is better because you can escape from a tank for example. Those stun grenades do not help much against armor vehicles (I guess!). You can instead through a hand grenade on the enemy and kill them instantly. I am sure some people can be creative and come up with some scenarios about how to use them in a better way.
        You can blind armor vehicles with flash bangs. Much more effective than a smoke grenade.

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        • F-1

          #19
          Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

          It seems to me that the only unlock which worth unlocking is the assault kit.
          The Medic's... a little bit

          The rest of them are just new looking toys :)

          Personaly I do not like night maps. Also SF graphics look "not that good" to say the least. I just feel that SF is not my type of gameplay and that is why I am not buying it, mainly.

          It will probably be better to donate those $30 to one of those nice community mods that are not released yet.

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          • gaban_tiki

            #20
            Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

            hello i've been reading those thread and am wondering is there such a thing as buying weapons?........

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            • DakotaDoc64

              #21
              Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

              Originally posted by Damanexor
              FN2000 should be the first unlock to get because the poster neglected to mention that only the upgraded weapons [G3 & FN2000] allow you to use flash bangs. If you use the stock weapon, you will receive smoke grenades instead of flash bangs. Also should be mentioned that the FN2000 has a very strong scope available to it.
              That is correct the flash bang does come with the F2000. If you select G3 you get the smoke grenade. Strangly the flash bang shows as a seperate unlock. Anyone have any ideas why?

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              • rombaft

                #22
                Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                intresting, that F2000 seems to me a better weapon then the M16 , it has more power in each shot, same recoil when prone and doesn't shoot in burtsts, wich make it better in close to medium combat, at long range the m16 will probably be better

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                • Sinister Rouge

                  #23
                  Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                  It seems like the SCAR-L and the G36C are about the same at medium range as far as accuracy and powah. But as for sniping with the SCAR-L looks like the G36C remains the prime choice. After seeing the SCAR-L in action i think those numbers dont really do it justice as the red dot sight is nicer to have then an iron sight. Oh well the G36C still remains king i guess :P

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                  • Daz

                    #24
                    Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                    From what I tested the FN SCAR-L is better at full auto killing on the move than the G36C is.

                    And the G36E may not do the most damage but if you go prone zoom in and have the crosshairs on the target, two taps of the mouse will kill the guy. Its very quick and very usefull. Not sure about CQC battles though.

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                    • usiel

                      #25
                      Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                      As someone already said the unlocks are just slight alternatives. Sometimes I go with the standard kit and not the unlock because the situation demands it. For example of I'm sniping with spec force I'll go with the standard...if I'm running around in more straight up combat I'll use the g36c for the full auto accuracy.

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                      • imported_Underpant

                        #26
                        Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                        Originally posted by DakotaDoc64
                        The flash bang is a seperate unlock. You don't get it automaticly when you unlock the FN2000

                        Uhm, yes, why yes you do. You're wrong.

                        The G36C is still the king, and I personally prefer ironsights over red dot. The G36C is still the full auto king because of the deviation/recoil.

                        So far I got the G36E, MG36, and F2000. I think I still like the PKM more. The F2000 makes me feel like I'm cheating, it's so good, plus the grenade launcher and flashbangs. The G36E is very nice, and I'll always choose that over the G85.

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                        • Afghani_BattleDonkey

                          #27
                          Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                          Originally posted by Daz
                          From what I tested the FN SCAR-L is better at full auto killing on the move than the G36C is.

                          And the G36E may not do the most damage but if you go prone zoom in and have the crosshairs on the target, two taps of the mouse will kill the guy. Its very quick and very usefull. Not sure about CQC battles though.


                          I am actually very happy with the new unlocks; they are all optimized for different styles of play. Its all in the stats file people. The g-36C remain king of sniping, The SCAR-L is much better close quarter because this is a very low deviation added per shot factor, meaning VERY tight bursts on auto

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                          • MMad

                            #28
                            Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                            Originally posted by gaban_tiki
                            hello i've been reading those thread and am wondering is there such a thing as buying weapons?........
                            No, gaming hasn't gone quite that far yet here in the west, at least. Give it another year or two. :)

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                            • blankoboy

                              #29
                              Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                              In response to the OP's kawaii grammar


                              The same these weapons are

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                              • Black_Duck_4

                                #30
                                Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                                Well thank you Ducky1 this is realy wanderful

                                Think I'll stick with the M16A2 or AK-101

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