BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

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    BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

    I made this little study to figure out if the new SF unlocks worth it or not, and if so then what are the best unlocks.
    I extracted this info from the game's files, if you ask. Since I am a casual player I wanted to know if paying the money and spending the time to get new unlocks will worth it.
    I did not compare every single weapon because it takes a lot of time to do that, but the list below should be enough.

    The chart is now updated to reflect the changes after patch 1.2




    Now here is what I found:
    Support's Kit:

    The winner is the PKM. The new MG36 has a very similar accuracy. PKM has a higher damage but lower fire rate. So the two weapons basically take the same amount of time to kill a healthy target. Now how the weapon feels in your hand is a different story. Remember that those numbers are the true story. every weapon becomes a good weapon when you get used to it. if you can get used to the PKM then it is the absolute winner. Why pay more money and try to get ranks/unlocks again if the two weapons are effectively the same?!

    Engineer's Kit:

    Does not the MP7 remind you with the stupid MP5 that comes with the Anti Tank?! I included it for the sake of comparison. Look at the chart! is not the MP5 and the MP7 are basically full auto pistols?! The pistol has a higher accuracy when zoomed. The shotgun MK3A1 is one shot one kill weapon if you aim right, otherwise you will need two shots (my experience). If you run into a fact-to-fact combat with any other kit then you are dead, if your enemy is fully healthy. MP7 is obviously worthless.

    Special Ops Kit:

    All weapons take the same time/number of bullets to kill. G36C has the best accuracy. Why get the SCAR-L? I do not see any good reason. G36C is the winner!

    Assault's Kit:

    All weapons take the same time to kill a healthy target. if the M16A2 did not have the problem of shooting only 3 bullets at a time then it will be the clear winner. F2000 has a slight accuracy advantage over the others. If you like the grenade launcher then the F2000 is the clear winner for you. if you like the hand grenades like me then the G3 is the clear winner for you. Actually if you play MEC or China then F2000 won't give you that advantage. AK-47 has a similar accuracy and higher damage. So the result: F2000 does not give you that big advantage.

    Medic's Kit:

    AK-47 is the best obviously. it has the highest damage and a good accuracy. L85A1 is not that good and I still do not understand why many people are exited about it. In all of the medic's weapons, G36E has the best accuracy, but not the highest damage. Note that because of the different frequencies of fire then they all turn out to have the same damage effectively. Since the G36E has the highest accuracy then it will be the winner! I personally do not play a medic so I do not care a bit about that weapon.
    Conclusion: if you want to get a good assault's weapon and have a grenade launcher then go and buy BF:SF and unlock that one (worth the money?!). otherwise, BF2 unlocks/defaults are much better. If you are buying BF:SF to get new unlocks for BF2 then you are wasting your money. If you are not buying SF to play new maps then forget about it.

    Your comments/inputs are appreciated, but be nice please .
  • rtgbs7k

    #2
    Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

    thanks you very much for the list! just what I've been looking for...

    Cant wait until tomorrow morning when I'll go and buy the exp...

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    • vbl

      #3
      Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

      Wow, those new weapons are pointless.

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      • Bob_the_Insane

        #4
        Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

        They are not pointless any more than any of the unlocks are pointless...

        The real point here is that not really any better than the existing weapons so it is really not worth getting all upset over them...

        It is simply fun to have something new to play with...

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        • Bob_the_Insane

          #5
          Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

          They are not pointless any more than any of the unlocks are pointless...

          The real point here is that not really any better than the existing weapons so it is really not worth getting all upset over them...

          It is simply fun to have something new to play with...

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          • ptegan
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            • Jul 2006
            • 2666

            #6
            Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

            Exactly Bob, the weapons are to offer an alternative. They are not meant to by upgrades but unlocks. When I'm AT I love my DAO but I know other AT guys that prefer the default weapon.

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            • MMad

              #7
              Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

              Things to consider: The zoomed scope for the F2000 is *awesome*. :) It's very easy to shoot with, you have a much better view of the target. IMO. And I disagree about the MP7, I think I'll prefer that to the regular unlock in many situations, especially at longer ranges, which is the great weakness of the engineer classes atm. Not a huge improvement, I agree, especially since I personally tend to be inside vehicles a lot of the time I'm playing engineer..
              I also think the new support gun is actually superior to the old ones, due to having burst fire. Technically one can always fire in burts anyway, and experienced support players do this most of the time, but just like in real life I know that at least I tend to go into full auto when under stress, so just like in RL I find it really helps to have a gun that takes care of the bursting for you. As for the medic gun, I haven't played with it much, but it seemed to fire much more tightly than the old one. It felt more similar to the G36C. 'Course that's probably in large part due to them looking and sounding much alike..

              All in all, it's actually reassuring to see that the new weapons aren't obviously superior, like some people have feared. It would suck if core BF2 players had a really major disadvantage.. The way it is now the SF players seem to have more choices and get to add extra flavour to the game, much like the original unlocks. And there might be a slight advantage, but honestly not so much that player skill couldn't make up for it in very many situations. Besides, SF players have no use of their new guns when in vehicles, so this will probably not affect the gameplay on most maps very much. Karkand might adjust, though. Will be interesting to see. :)

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              • imported_Knight_Yellow

                #8
                Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                If anybody seriously bought SF to get 5 new weapons they are not worth trying to humiliate....

                Im buying it for the maps, the teams, the vehicles, the weapons and the fact that im a BF whore (every dice product, and 2 bf1942's).

                You can post stats and compare weapons like that all you want but somebody who is used to a Sa80 (medic) will win against somebody with a PKM who doesnt like it.

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                • HicRic

                  #9
                  Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                  *sigh*

                  Yes, once again, just like the ORIGINAL unlocks, these new guns are not supposed to be better than the normal guns. They are alternatives!.

                  If they were better, then it would be unbalanced and stupid. And besides, numbers aren't everything...guns often 'feel' different in the game to the numbers on paper. For example, it looks much easier to aim using the F2000 than the AK47, as you have a better view of the target and a nice zoom sight.

                  Just more guns for more variety and playing styles, not uber-cannons-of-death for people to run around and laugh as they easily beat all the non-SF players.

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                  • Sgt. York

                    #10
                    Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                    Thanks for taking the time to post all those weapons stats in an easy to read format. I agree with others on here, especially MMad, in that these new unlocks are alternatives to the existing unlocks. Each has a strength and weakness compared to other weapons.
                    IMO, it is difficult to assign "worth" or "value" to the purchase of SF, when each person has a different meaning for both words...

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                    • Bob_the_Insane

                      #11
                      Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                      It is $30, it's fun, its a PC Game...

                      Thats enough for me...

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                      • cavemanuk

                        #12
                        Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                        Originally posted by [DUCKS]Black_Duck_1
                        I made this little study to figure out if the new SF unlocks worth it or not, and if so then what are the best unlocks.
                        I extracted this info from the game's files, if you ask. Since I am a casual player I wanted to know if paying the money and spending the time to get new unlocks will worth it.
                        I did not compare every single weapon because it takes a lot of time to do that, but the list below should be enough.

                        For a casual player you sure put some time into this study! :)

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                        • imported_Striker

                          #13
                          Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                          Looks good man,

                          So which one is the 1st to unlock?? 2nd?

                          I suppose it depends on which class you like :P

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                          • dwuf76

                            #14
                            Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                            Not sure which gun it was, but one of the new assult rifles has a better scope with laser sight, that thing is awesome!! :)

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                            • imported_Damanexor

                              #15
                              Re: BF:SF Unlocks details. Comparison with the other BF2 weapons.

                              FN2000 should be the first unlock to get because the poster neglected to mention that only the upgraded weapons [G3 & FN2000] allow you to use flash bangs. If you use the stock weapon, you will receive smoke grenades instead of flash bangs. Also should be mentioned that the FN2000 has a very strong scope available to it.

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