Is the Hind american or Russian?

[DezemoDova]

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The Mil Mi-24 is a large combat helicopter gunship and low-capacity troop transport operated from 1976 by the Soviet Air Force, its successors, and over thirty other nations.

Its NATO reporting name is Hind and variants are identified with an additional letter. The export versions, Mi-25 and Mi-35, are denoted as Hind D and Hind E respectively. Soviet pilots called the aircraft 'letayushiy tank' or flying tank.

[Hemmorhage]

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Its hard to tell wether the Hind or the Apache is the better Helo.

The differences are minimal, and since war is not this stupid card game where you compare just manufacturer facts to each other and go like " HA ! my Helo has 0,002mm thicker armor then yours, it totally pwnz y00!"

Both do their job perfectly.... there is even no point in argueing which is the better one.

I can only stat my opinion and say that the Hind looks a lot scarier(and better)

ps:
i dont know how russian equipment manufacturers exchange technology among each other, but if they do, the Hind might even have a superior targeting and missle guiding system.
But even if.... both kill tanks and and other installations with almost 100% precision and can level a city block in mere seconds.




gg

[DezemoDova]

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Initially modelled on the Bell AH-1 Cobra and borrowing extensively from existing models the Hind went from drawing board in 1968 to first test-flights in less than eighteen months. First models were delivered to the armed forces for evaluation in 1970. The Mi-24A (Hind-B) did have a number of problems - lateral roll, weapon sighting problems, and limited field of view for the pilot. A heavy redesign of the aircraft front section solved some of these problems. The first version of this helicopter, were twelve V-24 (Hind) prototypes and development aircraft. Other early versions were the Mi-24 (Hind-A) armed assault helicopter, which could carry eight combat troops and three crew members. It could also carry four 57-mm rocket pods on four underwing pylons, four 9M17 Falanga (AT-2 Swatter) anti-tank missiles on two underwing rails, free-fall bombs, plus one 12.7-mm machine-gun in the nose. The Mi-24 (Hind-A) was the first production model. It was followed up by the second production model the Mi-24A (Hind-B). Both the Mi-24 and Mi-24A entered Soviet Air Force service in 1973 or 1974. The Mi-24U (Hind-C) was a training version without any armament. The most common variant is the Mi-24D (Hind-D), a purer gunship than the earlier variants, the first to include the electronics for Anti-tank guided missiles 9M17 Falanga (AT-2 Swatter). The Mi-24D has a redesigned forward fuselage, with two sperate cockpits for the pilot and gunner. It is armed with a single 12.7-mm four-barrel machine-gun under the nose. It can carry four 57-mm rocket pods, four 9M17 Falanga (AT-2 Swatter) anti-tank missiles, plus bombs and other weapons. Small numbers of Mi-24Ds were built as Mi-24DU training helicopters. The Mi-25 is the export version of the Mi-24D. Later development led to the Mi-24V (Hind-E) which was first seen in the early 1980s. It armed with newer ATGMs, like the (9M114 Kokon, AT-6 Spiral) with tube launchers. Twelve of those missile are mounted on six wing pylons. The Mi-35 is the export version of the Mi-24V (Hind-E). The Mi-24P (Hind-F) gunship version, which replaced the 12.7mm machine-gun with a fixed 30-mm cannon. The Mi-35P is the export version of the Mi-24P (Hind-F). Other versions of Mi-24 are the Mi-24RKR (Hind-G1) NBC reconnaissance model, which is designed to collect radiation, biological and chemical samples. It was first seen during the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster. The Mi-24K (Hind-G2) is an army reconnaissance, artillery observation helicopter. The Mi-24PS is a civil police version.

The newest variant is the 1995 Mi-24VM, with light-weight fibre main and tail rotors to improve all-round performance, updated avionics to improve night-time operation, new communications gear, shorter and lighter wings, and updated weapon systems to include support for the Ataka, Shturm and Igla-V missiles and a 23 mm main gun. Other internal changes have been made to increase the aircraft life-cycle and ease maintenance. The Mi24VM is expected to operate until 2015.

Since 1978 around 2,000 Hinds have been manufactured, 600 for export. The U.S. Army operates a number of Hinds in Louisiana for adversary training.

[MrChris_CJ]

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i seem to remember that backwards soviet military doctrine led to the creation of a hind...
behind it was an idea that the red army would not use attack helicopters but many realised they were such an important and powerful weapon that they were needed...so the transport and attack helicopter roles were combined to make the hind...so the army could use a kick ass attack helo while still using it for transport and obeying military ideas etc of some traditional people etc etc

[Arkasha]

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Um, instead of cutting and pasting, why don't you just put the link where you got all that?

[DezemoDova]

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Um, instead of cutting and pasting, why don't you just put the link where you got all that?

cant paste a link to a file on my desktop at work

[weird_al]

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I prefer the Havoc but the Hind is still a sexy Helicopter

[HicRic]

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"A Hind D? Colonel, what's a Russian gunship doing here?"

[Deez]

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http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mi-24.htm

They are heavy and slow. Apache is far better.

[Deez]

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THE APACHE awaits me!

The AD-64D Apache Longbow is the most lethal, survivable, deployable and maintainable multimission helicopter in the world.

[imported_Gergnoodle]

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if anyone rmembers the gulf war video of the iraqi tank column being taken our by a couple of apaches at night then they would see that the stealth and technology of the american helicopter makesi t the way better vehicle not to mention it could fly cirlces around the hind

[12-RST-]

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I prefer the Havoc but the Hind is still a sexy Helicopter

WTF is a havoc? a figment of you r imagination? BTW, the Apache is Gangster, the Hind was deadly for it's time in the 70's and 80's. Its outdated now and would be decimated by the Apache or Supercobra in Combat.

[smo]

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When I was stationed in Ft Polk, LA, we had a "hind" and a "hip" (the transport heli) and a havoc. All were really cool because they were different to look at. I would never say that the hind was a better heli than the Apache.

[longgone]

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[QUOTE=Since 1978 around 2,000 Hinds have been manufactured, 600 for export. The U.S. Army operates a number of Hinds in Louisiana for adversary training.[/QUOTE]

in 27 years they only made 2000 of these, that doesn't seem right.....they were loosing 2 of these a week at the height of the Afgan war?

[Papi4baby]

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so what;s a havoc?? pics anyone.