Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

[Harmor]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

im gonna use a bad example but im sure most people have seen the movie black hawk down.. notice when they storm the city the troops dont sit in the vehicles.. they stop get out and defend...

Actually I think the reason why people get OUT of vehicles is because:

1. In the real world it only takes 1 RPG to take out a vehicle
2. You have a much larger view of the surrounds and thus can spot enemy easier instead of being in a cramped vehicle
3. Not all vehicles can take an RPG (i.e. tank)
4. If there's an explosion it won't take out everyone since everyone is spread out

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

this will really hurt pilots' scores,they wont have any huge flying target screaming "SHOOT ME AND GET 12 POINTS!!!" to crash into.

[BH|Recon]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Actually I think the reason why people get OUT of vehicles is because:

1. In the real world it only takes 1 RPG to take out a vehicle
2. You have a much larger view of the surrounds and thus can spot enemy easier instead of being in a cramped vehicle
3. Not all vehicles can take an RPG (i.e. tank)
4. If there's an explosion it won't take out everyone since everyone is spread out

yup exactly... its the same reason it should be done ingame too.. for all of those reasons.. and thats why i think this change is stellar

[bisley]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch

So now that only the driver of any vehicle will count when capping a flag, how will this change your gameplay?

For the better? For the worst? Won't change?

EDIT:
Linky: http://www.quakenet.org/dev-chat2.Dice.txt


PS: I don't know if the patch will be out October 3rd.

Jump out when at flag ...easy !

[bjack]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

I would like to propose handling vehicular flag captures differently.

Instead, make it so that a vehicle must stop moving (with a little allowance for hovering drift) in order to take flags. I have no problems with fully loaded Blackhawks taking flags, but I think they should be more vulnerable to AT missiles, M203s, and such while capping.

As mentioned earlier, what happens when you have a squad leader and 1 gunner perpetually circling and blasting everything while squad mates keep parachuting out onto flags below. I would think that's even worse.

Anyway, I understand they are nerfing engineer's part in godlike blackhawk syndrome so perhaps it's somewhat moot.

[Harmor]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

As mentioned earlier, what happens when you have a squad leader and 1 gunner perpetually circling and blasting everything while squad mates keep parachuting out onto flags below. I would think that's even worse.

I think you pinned out what Blackhawk crews will be doing after the patch. Remember the mini-guns have been tuned down a little as well...I wonder if the splash damage is as large as it was or they just reduced the damage slightly?

We'll see hopefully...

Soon™

[bjack]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Yeah, but I hate to see a nerf to any gun in the game, seeing how all weapons in general are pretty light in damage.

I would like to see some kind of damage bonus if you get a rocket to explode inside the blackhawk.

[BigBadBob]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Well, if I was in an APC or Tank, I would just jump out, cap the flag, then jump back in.

i think it's stupid. The APC has 2 slots, all with guns. That's what they are there for, to help protect the APC.

Same with tanks, the 2nd gun is to help protect the tank.

This will just **** everybody over.

[MackTheKnifeAU]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

IMO this should only apply to helos. Not tanks\apcs\buggies.

Blackhawks in particular, are redicolously (sp) hard to kill. I put 5 rockets into one today (as in bang, reload, bang, reload, bang etc etc) and it did'nt go down, still managed to cap the flag and end up killing me.

Since I don't really "blackhawk whore" that much (I much prefer killing them with C4 Jihad Helo), my only concern is it might reduce the targets I have (ie no more 6 kills and flag defence in one shot).

On the other hand, it should free up the non US helos much more, as people won't be stupid enough to try and use it to cap, as the guns are weak, everyone needs to get out = deadmeat and the helo itself is ****e.

Anyways, if there is'nt any helos to slam into, I'll just do it to tanks.

[Noodnoob]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

I think this change should only apply to BH's. Other vehicles are fine as they are since non benefit from being able to be repaired / healed at the same time. Certainly the attack choppers should be left as they are since they only carry 2 ppl, cant rearm/repair in flight and are already easy enough to take down (e.g 2 AT rockets). Sure, please stop the blatant BH whoring but don't screw up the rest of the vehicles at the same time...

[Talus]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

If there were 6 people in a vehicle, APC or transport helicopter, which person besides the driver/pilot would get points?

If everybody stayed in the vehicle, only the driver would get points.

Everybody else should get out and check the area surrounding the flag for enemies and help cap it. THEN they'll get flag cap team points..and who knows...maybe they'll even get combat points for killing defenders for a change

[FFSConman]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

What the patch will do is force helos to stay on "station" longer and thereby making them more vulernable, given the longer repair and capping time. It will also focus the game/battles on the flags which is really where most of the battles should occur anyway. Assuming, of course, that flags are being defended.

[scott123]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Making the others hop out of the chopper is somehting that needed to be fixed (there really is no debate). Can't tell you how may maps I've been on where a transport loads to the gills, and flys around the map capping flags over and over. It makes for a real interesting session

Sure you can shoot it down, but where there are 5 guys shooting at you, your chances are low for sucess.

For those that are complaining about this being patched, I say learn how to play like everyone else.

[Harmor]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

i think it's stupid. The APC has 2 slots, all with guns. That's what they are there for, to help protect the APC.

Same with tanks, the 2nd gun is to help protect the tank.

This will just **** everybody over.

APC has more than 2 slots. Actually if memory serves me it has 4 passenger seats for a total of 5 in the crew.

An APC or tank only takes 2 well placed AT rockets to destroy so I don't like being in them. Most people when they are killed will respawn as AT so its wise to spead out so you don't all die.

The gunner on a tank is already an exposed target and will often get killed. I know when playing sniper that the gunner on a tank is an easy kill.

[mattressfish]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Best news I've read all day. Awesome.