Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

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  • imported_TheDragon
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 1476

    #16
    Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

    well - I think it is great because
    there will be fewer noobs taking the choppers
    and good pilots will still take it

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    • Harmor

      #17
      Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

      Originally posted by TopGunGreg
      well - I think it is great because
      there will be fewer noobs taking the choppers
      and good pilots will still take it
      But the BH pilots won't get their uber scores anymore.

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      • Talus
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 6854

        #18
        Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

        It can't do anything except improve tactics and player skill.

        People SHOULD be getting out of vehicles anyway to secure the area.

        As it is now, everybody knows that if you hide when defending a flag...the BH/tank/APC/attack chopper will simply go away without securing the area, allowing you to re-cap it immediately.

        Whenever I cap a flag, I make a habit of either requesting a UAV or getting out or having a squad member get out to secure the area.

        Just makes sense.

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        • The_Misfit

          #19
          Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

          It'll make BH whoring a whole new deal, but I'm interested to see how the challenge will play out....

          We'll probably try to see what we can do, for a squad in TS together it'll be more fun than having guys staring at the roof with a wrench. I imagine 4 guys jumping out - 1-2 medics and the rest engys. Leave the pilot (squad leader) in the bh, along with 1 gunner (engy - just in case). Fly around the flag in a circle, allowing the 1 gunner to clear out any enemies. The other 4 cap the flag (4 on the ground should be fairly fast), and then the bh swoops in to pick them up.

          Only real complaint will be the TK's from guys that jump to get in the helo and aren't hitting their enter/exit vehicle button fast enough :)

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          • Zonko

            #20
            Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

            Originally posted by DeathGiver
            Itll cut down on the blackhawk whoring. And it wont affect me at all.
            ^ This guy hit the nail on the head.

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            • Harmor

              #21
              Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

              Originally posted by The_Misfit
              Only real complaint will be the TK's from guys that jump to get in the helo and aren't hitting their enter/exit vehicle button fast enough :)
              Actually they "fixed" the slow moving TK bug. Apparently you can brush up against moving vehicles and NOT be killed.

              Additionally it looks like they are bringing back WINGWALKING from BF:1942. However, from their quote its look it might just allow us to stand on "slow moving vehicles" like tanks and APCs.

              Its unclear atm.

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              • Talus
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 6854

                #22
                Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                I would prefer if it were only on tanks, jeeps, mobile AA, and APCs.

                I know it was fun in BF1942...but standing on a moving chopper or jet just doesn't seem right to me

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                • AlphaNut

                  #23
                  Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                  Originally posted by Talus
                  I would prefer if it were only on tanks, jeeps, mobile AA, and APCs.

                  I know it was fun in BF1942...but standing on a moving chopper or jet just doesn't seem right to me
                  I don't think that Wingwalking will really be a good idea with the BF2 physics engine. I also think that we'll be able to stand on a slow moving vehicle. I hope that it will not be possible to stand on the wings of a flying jet. But it would be very sweet if infantry could stack up on an APC, or a tank

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                  • Harmor

                    #24
                    Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                    Originally posted by AlphaNut
                    I don't think that Wingwalking will really be a good idea with the BF2 physics engine. I also think that we'll be able to stand on a slow moving vehicle. I hope that it will not be possible to stand on the wings of a flying jet. But it would be very sweet if infantry could stack up on an APC, or a tank
                    I agree. So many times I wanted to catch a ride on a tank or get on the hood of a full HUMVEE.

                    I hope they don't allow you to WINGWALK on any flying vehicle...that would just be lame.

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                    • jonnysanchez

                      #25
                      Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                      if the driver only gets the points, while the others have to jump out, this means all the passengers will only get capture assists and the driver will get full capture points, unless they tweak it so that you have to capture it within 2 seconds of when the first person enters the flag radius

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                      • aLLyBOOM
                        Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 687

                        #26
                        Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                        They should have left the BH alone, I love to shoot it down! Managed it 3 times last round on my own in a vodnik...

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                        • Harmor

                          #27
                          Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                          Originally posted by jonnysanchez
                          if the driver only gets the points, while the others have to jump out, this means all the passengers will only get capture assists and the driver will get full capture points, unless they tweak it so that you have to capture it within 2 seconds of when the first person enters the flag radius
                          Actually I believe they said that ONLY the driver gets ALL the points and counts for capturing the flag.

                          Therefore the driver would get 2 points for neutralizing the flag and another 2 points for capturing the flag for a total of 4 points.

                          His passengers get ZERO POINTS if they are still in the vehicle. Additionally the flag will turn with 1 person, the driver (takes about 30 seconds). All the other passengers won't count for the time it takes the flag to turn either.

                          Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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                          • Wheelcipher

                            #28
                            Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch

                            Originally posted by Harmor
                            So now that only the driver of any vehicle will count when capping a flag, how will this change your gameplay?

                            For the better? For the worst? Won't change?

                            EDIT:
                            Linky: http://www.quakenet.org/dev-chat2.Dice.txt

                            You can still whore ...

                            Example: If you are using the "Support" kit providing everyone with ammo, you can have a chopper full of people who jump out to capture the flag, firing at everything in sight while they're out of the chopper for protection, and then replentish them once they get back in the chopper...

                            If you are a medic, you can do the same if those guys are wounded.

                            It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!

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                            • Harmor

                              #29
                              Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                              Originally posted by aLLyBOOM
                              They should have left the BH alone, I love to shoot it down! Managed it 3 times last round on my own in a vodnik...
                              Yep, a well placed Vodnik can take out a fully loaded BH - I love it too. Also note that the repair rate for engineers in a flying BH will be "tweaked" slower.

                              So I guess they can't repair as fast as they do today. Should be even easier to take them out without overheating.

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                              • imported_Psycho

                                #30
                                Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                                Originally posted by big_sammy_b
                                hopefully it will just change the way BH people play as in pilots landing and letting people out at flags.

                                The worst case scenario is that nobody will go in the blackhawks anymore.
                                That is what is going to happen it will just be used as a taxi maybe sometimes you will get a few on the guns but no one is going to stay in the back of it, its a completly stupid thing to do as if someone is on the gun of the vehicle they will just get out and leave the vehicle and the driver will ahve to cover himself.

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