Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

[Harmor]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

I think this change should only apply to BH's. Other vehicles are fine as they are since non benefit from being able to be repaired / healed at the same time. Certainly the attack choppers should be left as they are since they only carry 2 ppl, cant rearm/repair in flight and are already easy enough to take down (e.g 2 AT rockets). Sure, please stop the blatant BH whoring but don't screw up the rest of the vehicles at the same time...

Yeah but we can now ride on the outside of vehicles! A full squad of 6 riding on top of a tank/APC to cap a flag won't be rare anymore. Actually I think this one change will actually make people move WITH vehicles because now even a small brush from a vehicle would kill you - they fixed that.

Can't wait.

[Drevor]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

how will this change my gameplay? Everyone but the pilot jumps out of the BH(SH). Ill cap the pilot with my M95 and the chopper takes care of the rest

[Naish]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

If they only do it to the blackhawks, what would stop players from doing it with APC's?

As i already wrote: Make people bail from TRANSPORT vehicles (includes buggies APC's and Black-Hawks) to cap flags, only to transport vehicles! Let the attack choppers/tanks cap flags with passengers inside capping it too (since there can only be 2 people inside).

[Moke]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

I think the patch will cover ALL vehicles...

[imported_Gue]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Im gonna miss shooting those full loaded blackhawks.

[Talus]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

We all will...

But it sure will be nice to have a game where 1/2 of the MEC/PLA team isn't focused on hunting down only 6 people on the USMC side.

[Harmor]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

I think the patch will cover ALL vehicles...

You are correct my friend.

[Donkey]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

For those that are complaining about this being patched, I say learn how to play like everyone else.

Um buddy it was part of the game...but because everyone else couldnt learn how to take out the BH (rather simple) the whinning won....bunch of bitches i tell ya...

I dont really care all that much, it just sucks now that Transport pilots wont get much reward in terms of points for flying like crazy and keepin a squad of guys alive and on the move...Im betting most the whinners cant fly copters for shizzle...just my opnions

[foestauf]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Ok I can see this as being a unique change in gameplay.
Lets make the game more realistic I got ya...

Well then they need to make it so people may rope out of a BH because a BH never lands to deploy troops out, they rope out.

Gonna be ridiculous to see BH's having to damn near land, or people having to parachute out, wich never happens either heh.
Then having to pick em all back up... Ewww. I just think that the pilot should have an alternate fire wich could deploy the ropes and retract them.

Also aggree they should make it so pilot and two gunners count, gonna be kind of stupid now having to have a BH just a sitting duck, no BH pilot is gonna want to deploy the troops, fly out of harms way, then return to pick em up. That might work IRL but not in this game unless you are in an organized clan.

This makes me just wanna say, Air Assault 101 "Night Hawks"

[Dangerdog]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Kind of funny, do they really listen to the community as a whole or just the part that whines the loudest.

1) They said that they have improved the AA defense abilities.

2) Engineer repair rate reduced on Blackhawk.

3) Mini guns will do less damage.

4) Passengers have to exit the Blackhawk (all vehicles) to cap.

Seems to me #1 covers it well enough, that and if they fixed the damn hitbox detection system with the AT missle, I've had shots go right through lenghtwise and not even scratch it so many times that I stoped trying. I also find the fault mostly lies with the players, lack of teamwork and second with the map design and lack of stationary air defense systems on some maps. On maps where you have jets and attack choppers zeroing in on the slow moving Blackhawks it's damn near impossible to get to a flag let alone cap it, unless the opposing side has complete imbeciles doing the air defense.

We paid for the game, but ultimately it’s their sand box and they get to set the rules.

[glasseye]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

how will this change my gameplay? Everyone but the pilot jumps out of the BH(SH). Ill cap the pilot with my M95 and the chopper takes care of the rest

do it.
save the bf recording.
host it.
send me the link.

[ConscriptVirus]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

i can sense ppl starting to hog the vehicles

[Angerf1st_NL]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

Awesome work on the chopper part though i find it more than retarded that the gunner in a tank or the gunner in a jeep wont get points... I mean whe waited long enough for a fix and now they pretty much screwed the whole gameplay up.

Gotta love EA...

[Kattspya]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

don't count on it changing too much, the method people use may change, but the people will just find another way to do the same old things as before.



I take it you used to play Desert Combat and got to see the damage a blackhawk could inflict on maps like Lost Village? I used to fly those things all the time for certain people in my clan (those that could shoot accurately) and watch them get upwards of 100+ kills.

Nope, I didn't play much DC but I am a helicopter pilot and my gunner works the miniguns like magic. I only cap a populated flag when the miniguns stop spinning and while I'm hovering I'll turn the chopper a few degrees each second so the gunners clear the whole 360. But I don't need to do that anymore and risk the blackhawk just circle and frag.

[Jesse]

Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

i think it's stupid. The APC has 2 slots, all with guns. That's what they are there for, to help protect the APC.

Same with tanks, the 2nd gun is to help protect the tank.

This will just **** everybody over.

Amen to that. They might as well remove those 4 gunner slots on all of the APCs, the gunner and passengers positions in the jeeps and hummers/vans, the gunner on top of the tank....all of that might as well be removed and said "The heck with you!" when the patch comes out. The people in these positions are in a position with a gun, and if they don't get points for shooting people with that gun on there while taking a flag, the driver doesn't deserve points either because they aren't doing a thing but sitting there while their buddy gets points.

This patch has some good aspects, the flag cap tweak isn't one of them. First people complain the Blackhawk is invincible, when it's not. Now they're going to whine about having to get out of the APC they were riding in and then whine about dying from that lame sniper on the roof, or simply getting left behind because they had to get out in the first place. Making people get out of the ground vehicles basically says "Oh well, armor isn't important, so we'll let the classes weaker against tanks have a chance I guess." This basically brings down engineers and anti-tank as the job they're supposed to be doing is brought down in importance. They have the ability to take out tanks for a reason: Tanks are freakin dangerous! Not everyone can deal with one, and if you don't have someone there to deal with it, you deserve to lose the flag, not let someone pick them off because the crew had to get out.

The worst part about applying this to the Blackhawk IS that less people will use it, thus less flying instant-Yahtzees buzzing around for us to shoot down. The complaining from anyone who whined about losing their flag is ruining a completely legitimate aspect of gameplay (and I mean capping flags from vehicles, NOT using the Blackhawk has such, even though I see that as perfectly alright as well). This feature, faster caps for more people, was a great idea as it made sense, but it's being greatly weakened in the next patch, thus making the game less shallow. What's next, are we just going to take out armor all together since you can't kill it with a pistol? Please, get over dying and find a different strategy, NOT complain until you get the game ruined.