Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

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  • Pilioka

    #46
    Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

    Um. No.

    Infantry. Straight forward infantry. Two tanks, one LAV, and a buncha cars. You can get to each flag on foot and fight infantry. Who cares about air craft. Same reason I like Sharqi. Get to every flag on foot. Fight on foot. Run into armor now and then but oh well.

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    • Colonel Sanders

      #47
      Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

      Another thing i would like to see go away is when something explodes near you it makes you go blurry for like 10 seconds, this is so anoying since even if someone with a m203 misses you, they make you go dizzy and its an easy kill

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      • POWER

        #48
        Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

        Originally posted by Colonel Sanders
        Another thing i would like to see go away is when something explodes near you it makes you go blurry for like 10 seconds, this is so anoying since even if someone with a m203 misses you, they make you go dizzy and its an easy kill
        I actually like the fuzzy effect. IMO it would also be cool if that happened when you fired the .50 cal. as well (M95 that is). But as a balancing effect, the .50 would be a one shot kill if you hit. If you've ever fired a .50 BMG rifle in RL, you'd know this was realistic. :)

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        • machstem

          #49
          Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

          I find the game it fairly balanced, and I agree with the person who posted about not being stupid when arming the AA or trying to stop air fire. I'll come out of a map, having done badly, and still be top of the leader board, simply because I don't always go for the biggest front/fight. If a place is being bombarded, or continuously attacked, and you're dying, go somewhere else. Blitzkrieg my friends!!! :)

          Don't expect a portable AA kit with the game, the weapons are set to stay. Don't take the locking off, it makes it much funner to ward off evil.

          Flare reloads definitely need to be reduced, and this is coming from the guy that needs more flares to survive.

          Once again, make the maps more like infantry maps, and you are ruining the Battlefield franchise which is insistent on large area maps, with a multitude of vehicles to choose from. A battlefield will hardly ever give you the constraints of close quarter coverage, but it is a good idea to add a couple into the mix, it gives the game new dimension when playing.

          If you want to be restricted to the ground and infantry for combat, then BF shouldn't be your game. It might be your preference in gaming, but it ruins it for those that enjoy "the larger, the better" maps...

          And just to please all that do like close combat, there's an expansion just around the corner...Can't wait!

          PEACE

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          • machstem

            #50
            Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

            Realism = you not coming back through a respawn period

            Realism = one chest bullet wound, you're crawling on the ground; one shoulder/arm wound, you ain't holding a rifle to shoot

            Realism = not a videogame

            Originally posted by POWER
            I actually like the fuzzy effect. IMO it would also be cool if that happened when you fired the .50 cal. as well (M95 that is). But as a balancing effect, the .50 would be a one shot kill if you hit. If you've ever fired a .50 BMG rifle in RL, you'd know this was realistic. :)

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            • machstem

              #51
              Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

              Call of duty: United Offensive

              That's the game you should be playing, I love it for infantry gaming. May not have the graphics from BF2, but the gameplay is what you are describing.

              To me, Battlefield series is:

              Helicopters, jets, tanks, jeeps, boats, AA guns, APC vehicles, anything that drives or flies, essentially!!!

              Originally posted by =LAF=Pilioka
              Um. No.

              Infantry. Straight forward infantry. Two tanks, one LAV, and a buncha cars. You can get to each flag on foot and fight infantry. Who cares about air craft. Same reason I like Sharqi. Get to every flag on foot. Fight on foot. Run into armor now and then but oh well.

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              • machstem

                #52
                Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                Amen..

                Originally posted by BarkingSquirrel
                "Why everyone likes Karkand:"

                Because they're all CS nubs, duh.

                People who can't deal with all aspects of the game really shouldn't playing the game. Watch, I guarantee these same people will get EA/DICE to make every new map infantry only completely destroying what Battlefield is all about - Watch.

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                • Real_2St0n3d

                  #53
                  Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                  Machstem, why would people who like infantry maps 'ruin' anything, especially anybody's gaming fun?

                  The whole point to infantry maps is that people who enjoy infantry versus infantry have a way to enjoy themselves, while the people who enjoy flying have their own set of maps like Kubra Dam or Operation Clean Sweep.

                  it's not as if infantry maps are something new, Berlin and stalingrad where some of the most popular and most played maps, and I haven't met a helo pilot who said it ruined his fun.. there's something called 'disconnect' if you don't want to play mano a mano but prefer choppers and planes,no? :)

                  live and let live m8.. except on the battlefield

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                  • POWER

                    #54
                    Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                    Originally posted by machstem
                    Call of duty: United Offensive

                    That's the game you should be playing, I love it for infantry gaming. May not have the graphics from BF2, but the gameplay is what you are describing.

                    To me, Battlefield series is:

                    Helicopters, jets, tanks, jeeps, boats, AA guns, APC vehicles, anything that drives or flies, essentially!!!
                    I can't stand WW2 games. I like modern to futuristic stuff.

                    On another note, in regard to your post about games and realism: realism at the expense of gameplay = bad. realism that promotes cool gameplay = good. Fuzzy effect = good.

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                    • DeathFromAbove

                      #55
                      Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                      I hate COD multiplayer but single player kicks ass.

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                      • A$$a$$ination

                        #56
                        Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                        Great points being made here

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                        • machstem

                          #57
                          Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                          Well, I like WW2 and modern combat, sometimes I feel like a bolt action, sometimes I feel like a semi-atuo, but in respect to both games, they are both diff. and great.

                          I agree with you on your statement. I too enjoy some realism, like the "bleeding" mod in COD. I wish it could be a standard in most games where shooting your enemy is key. OK, fine, more than 1 shot to knock a guy down, but I like if I have the surprise on the enemy, he can't just turn around, shoot me, and kill me almost instantly, and he survives. I shoot, you turn around and luckily kill me, and then die.

                          I like some realism, "effects" being the best way of promoting it.

                          Gameplay is definitely most important, a.k.a having alot of vehicles to choose from. Like Soldner...god I wish that game wouldn't have sucked. Over 90 weapons, 60 vehicles (or something like that)..great game, ****ty multiplayer.

                          PEACE

                          Originally posted by POWER
                          I can't stand WW2 games. I like modern to futuristic stuff.

                          On another note, in regard to your post about games and realism: realism at the expense of gameplay = bad. realism that promotes cool gameplay = good. Fuzzy effect = good.

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                          • machstem

                            #58
                            Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                            I'm not arguing with the people that enjoy infantry maps, I'd be a hypocrit to act so. What I'm saying, is that as much as I enjoy infantry maps, I REALLY enjoy maps with alot of vehicles, because before BF series, there wasn't really much of that. Even if it was 50/50 infantry/air-land vehicles, I'd be happy. I just hope it never becomes "moe infantry than vehicle"...which I doubt it will ever become, but I'm just putting my opinion out there.

                            My comments were more of a figurative sense, meaning, I hope it never becomes "mostly" infantry, because there are already too many games of that type out there.

                            PEACE

                            Originally posted by Real_2St0n3d
                            Machstem, why would people who like infantry maps 'ruin' anything, especially anybody's gaming fun?

                            The whole point to infantry maps is that people who enjoy infantry versus infantry have a way to enjoy themselves, while the people who enjoy flying have their own set of maps like Kubra Dam or Operation Clean Sweep.

                            it's not as if infantry maps are something new, Berlin and stalingrad where some of the most popular and most played maps, and I haven't met a helo pilot who said it ruined his fun.. there's something called 'disconnect' if you don't want to play mano a mano but prefer choppers and planes,no? :)

                            live and let live m8.. except on the battlefield

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                            • A$$a$$ination

                              #59
                              Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                              fuzzy effect promotes some realism. Realism is good but you need to find a happy medium, the more realism at some point = less fun. I think BF2 finds a pretty damn good balance between the two IMO

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                              • A$$a$$ination

                                #60
                                Re: Why everyone likes Karkand: NO AIRCRAFT.

                                Originally posted by machstem
                                I'm not arguing with the people that enjoy infantry maps, I'd be a hypocrit to act so. What I'm saying, is that as much as I enjoy infantry maps, I REALLY enjoy maps with alot of vehicles, because before BF series, there wasn't really much of that. Even if it was 50/50 infantry/air-land vehicles, I'd be happy. I just hope it never becomes "moe infantry than vehicle"...which I doubt it will ever become, but I'm just putting my opinion out there.

                                My comments were more of a figurative sense, meaning, I hope it never becomes "mostly" infantry, because there are already too many games of that type out there.

                                PEACE
                                I agree with everything you are saying.

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