Solution to the titan gun whores

[Raidyr]

OK where on earth did you even read this? All I have read IG is that they are "a superior transport and assault medium".
And even if you were right; this game is about having fun, not simulating futuristic hoplessnes of a war. It would be like making a game about WW1, charging entrenched machine guns with bayonets.

I didnt read it anywhere. I looked up and saw a huge, metal, flying object the size of a base, with guns strapped to it, a hanger, and enough firepower to make people on forums ***** about it.

That's like an APC shooting EMP on a walker. "let's put death on hold another two seconds"...

Properly used, the EMP in the APC can be a very useful weapon. People have done it to me, and I have done it to others.

[imported_Fish]

Heh, fine. You can have your new Titan guns if I can have my Voss that can't snipe :laugh:

lol you make me laugh.. in that case can I have my Baur that cant snipe and my clark that cant snipe and soon to be an automatic shotgun lol which are your favourite weapons. we can all critizise the weapons others use.. but whatever you do use you can be killed ho except the titan gun..

[Raidyr]

lol you make me laugh.. in that case can I have my Baur that cant snipe and my clark that cant snipe and soon to be an automatic shotgun lol which are your favourite weapons. we can all critizise the weapons others use.. but whatever you do use you can be killed ho except the titan gun..

yeah lol whats next, a Light Assault rifle that is better than most of the weapons in the game?

Oh wait

:|:

But no seriously, wow. The reason the Baur is so accurate is the same reason the Voss is so accurate. And clark sniping? I can sometimes take a guy out at 50m if I use all 7 rounds.

[Ekonon]

Yeah, Im done with this. I seem to be the only one here who doesnt care about JoeBobCamper in his Titan getting better scores than me.

GG noobs, GG

For someone who's "done with this" and "doesnt care" you seem to still be posting a lot in a thread that was obviously intended specifically for people who care about the issue.

It's about risk versus reward, so yes we do care about JoeBobCamper's score, because that's the reward part. If he can get the same or better reward with absolutely no risk, then that's a problem. Meanwhile, the only thing close to a counter involves extreme risk (try aiming into the air and firing a big obvious weapon for a while, and see how long you survive even if the titan guns don't get you), offers no reward after the first 8 times, and isn't even a very effective counter anyway (takes little time/effort to get the gun back, and the gun-user suffered no set back at all).

If you have the guns just damage the user, but not kill them, then you just add medics into the mix, throwing their hubs down before they leave. Admittedly, this would mean at least one more kit would be involved, so that's something. If you have it kill them outright everytime, apparently no one will use them at all (I'll take Demize's word here, though I die everytime my tank explodes if I don't bail in time, yet I keep using them...). I like the idea that instead of repairing, they just respawn. So to keep them from being destroyed as fast as they're back, you need to actually have a presence on the ground to protect them. I'd even settle for their viewpoint resetting upon being repaired, so that they can't just aim in the few seconds they're alive, and then fire the next time they're repaired.

My idea would be only having the two AA consoles located in the hanger deck. The other four gun consoles are next to the reactor consoles in the four corridors below decks. This way, the gunners would still be protected while the shields are up, but once they're down the first two are exposed to attackers. If the defense fails, eventually all four are exposed.

At this point, I'd take almost any change. I've had otherwise wonderful games of Suez completely ruined by titan guns. It's fine at first, but eventually the EU titan is over three of the five siloes. So I should just avoid those silos? Avoid more than half the map? I understand the titans should be powerful, but nothing else in the game lets you kill without the threat of being killed, much less on such a scale.

[DesmondLocke]

If the issue is in maps where Titans move, there's also another counter argument to that. You say in....Shuia is it? don't remember which......a Titan can get to the center and be able to fire down on all (or was it most?) of the silos. My question is how did the enemy Titan get there in the first place? If that's a strategic position, you need to be yelling at your Commander for not going there. If both Titans go there at the same, they slide alongside each other, and now 1 sometimes 2 of the other Titan's guns are blocked from some of the silos. And vice versa. If your commander doesn't want to fly to the most strategic position on the map, he's the real noob not the gun spammers.

[imported_Fish]

If the issue is in maps where Titans move, there's also another counter argument to that. You say in....Shuia is it? don't remember which......a Titan can get to the center and be able to fire down on all (or was it most?) of the silos. My question is how did the enemy Titan get there in the first place? If that's a strategic position, you need to be yelling at your Commander for not going there. If both Titans go there at the same, they slide alongside each other, and now 1 sometimes 2 of the other Titan's guns are blocked from some of the silos. And vice versa. If your commander doesn't want to fly to the most strategic position on the map, he's the real noob not the gun spammers.

the 2 main maps i think your talking about is Suez and Verdun.. the area for the titan to be in to the strategic position is quite big.. big enought for 2 titans so when you have your 2 titan next to each other both can cover nearly every silo.. (especially in suez)

[Roger Smith]

you guys are missing the point. its not wheather they are noobs are not. its that they are getting kills with no chance of being killed. with a sentry turret or claymore at least its not gonna be there when you repawn or you can take it out. titan guns will rain down death indefinitly. its a problem, and needs to be fixed. as i said before, the titan guns should be just like the essex ( i know thats the ship name) from bf2. once its destoryed it takes a min or 2 to respawn. in that time you can get your repair points. and the people at the silo actually have a chance to cap a flag, imagine that.

[ICE*T]

I Must admit it never used to bother me;but now I try to steer clear of servers where the titans can be moved;who wants to be howitzered all the time?the game is much better when the titans are at either end of the map...

[Raidyr]

I Must admit it never used to bother me;but now I try to steer clear of servers where the titans can be moved;who wants to be howitzered all the time?the game is much better when the titans are at either end of the map...

Thats the attitude that made DICE create IO (easy) mode

[imported_vaeth]

Thats the attitude that made DICE create IO (easy) mode

Well last time I checked IO was quite callenging but I guess as the vehicle lover you said you are you must know it better. :shakehead:

@ Topic:
Not being able to kill the people sitting at the titan guns is just one thing => frustrating. How can it be any fun to be blown away again and again with no chance to strike back? For me this is nothing else than the legalized version if wall and container glitching.

[ICE*T]

Thats the attitude that made DICE create IO (easy) mode

sitting on the titan guns just killing people aint easy?I love to play on 20 man servers;64 is no harder just a bit chaotic - the titan guns are just to much imho....there should not be so many points involved in destroying using and repairing them ;hell I made major gold in just over 6 days playing time and most of my points came from reapiring and destroying the guns it's just to easy...

[Raidyr]

Well last time I checked IO was quite callenging but I guess as the vehicle lover you said you are you must know it better. :shakehead:

I am a vehicle lover now? I play all fields in the game, I use every tool to my advantage (except 2, Voss, because I like keeping my game straight, and the gunship, because I am a ****ty flier). Just because I can adapt to the battlefield instead of playing Karkand, throwing frags every second doesnt make me an infantry lover. And about the difficulty? Lets see here

IO Mode:
Infantry fighting infantry

Regular (true) Battlefield:
Infantry fighting Infantry
Infantry fighting armor
Infantry fighting aicraft
Aircraft fighting Infantry
Armor fighting Infantry

And any other combination. IO mode was specifically created for those people who got angry when they got killed by a tank, and respawned, at the same base, as medic. Or by the people who refuse to use AA.

[BlackHeart5]

thoughts from a real old n00b! :)

The frustration I see being expressed here is an age old frustration. It was even pointed out in episode of MASH. Ground pounders resent the guys up in the air b/c the pilots and airmen fight a sterile war. That's just they way it is in real life. In game there is obviously a desire to change this.

It sounds like if the titan is a fixed target that many of the complaints are minimized. One does not have to approach the titan to kill it. The missiles can do that for you. And the "high" K/D ratio of the Titan gunner is greatly reduced if no one is approaching the Titan. The only changes that would need to be made are fairly minor. The titan would need to be placed so that its guns cannot reach any of the missile bases. And the titans would need to be locked into position.

BTW I do enjoy being a Titan gunner. It provides a balance for me. I really suck at being infantry. When running around down on the ground I tend to die rather quickly. And I do this until my titan shield goes down. Now I have multiple deaths and my 10 or 12 kills rarely out paces the 15 or 20 deaths I typically have.


The names I play under D3V1LDuCk, and MoreBars. Just so you can see that I am really a n00b and that I stink :)

[imported_Fish]

Thats the attitude that made DICE create IO (easy) mode

lol.. ok i have just played a titan game... the titan gunner whore won gold with (i can remember the actual kd) between 20-30 kill with 0 deaths, he had a total score on 100 exactly...

we then played camp gib and i won gold.. I had to work my bollocks off to get my 57 kills and 11 deaths and 20ish team points to get my 84 points.

if you insist the second game was.. how did you put it "easy mode" then it must be ****ing hard for the titan gunner..

and before you go on about kdr.. this has nothing to do with that.. its about which is easier

[ICE*T]

lol.. ok i have just played a titan game... the titan gunner whore won gold with (i can remember the actual kd) between 20-30 kill with 0 deaths, he had a total score on 100 exactly...

we then played camp gib and i won gold.. I had to work my bollocks off to get my 57 kills and 11 deaths and 20ish team points to get my 84 points.

if you insist the second game was.. how did you put it "easy mode" then it must be ****ing hard for the titan gunner..

and before you go on about kdr.. this has nothing to do with that.. its about which is easier

ohh i agree with you so much:yay: