Mod tools not looking so good.

[Kylee!]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

The day cloud computing becomes real is the day the government takes over the internet.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

The day cloud computing becomes real is the day the government takes over the internet.

LOL, guess what.

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[Kylee!]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

What?

[CptainCrunch]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

They already do!

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[Kylee!]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

:weo:

OHH NOOOO.

Well, as long as 4chan is alive, they will not have completely taken over the internet.

[KC-10]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

The day cloud computing becomes real is the day the government takes over the internet.

The NSA says hi.

[muffinmn100]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

Stuff is already coming, look at onlive and gakai.

[Vreki]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

Its a bit too soon to say yet, but the future is a PC that has no OS on it that will reside on the internet. Thats the average persons PC.

There will still be video cards and hard drives, but there will be no moving parts and it wont be worth upgrading.

Eh, how are you going to access those graphic cards and harddrives without an OS? Or the network for that matter?
Even televisions have OS these days.

But the "Centralized PC" you are describing already exists, Citrix have been around for years and Onlive claims to be the gaming equivalent of that.
However I don't see it replacing the PC before we have local clouds, say in your nearest ISP central. Input latency is still the bane of centralized gaming clients.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

You boot into your OS via the NIC. It loads into your solid state drive. We are talking 20 years here though. HOPEFULLY by then bandwidth will be enough that the time it takes to load you are loading Windows 23. There will be online storage systems that hold your data. You now buy a PC for $300 and then rent your storage for $200 a year and you have access to whatever.

Todays NAS setups show that storage can be anything anywhere. Todays servers can be setup with no hard drives in them at all, booting from a Vmware USB key, while clients boot their thin clients up to access their system via PXE boot (Finally a use for it).

But yeah, todays issue is processing power both on CPU and GPU. Users of autoCAD cant really use this technology. Same goes for heavy graphic design. This stuff is working well in health care, some manufacturing, retail,schools, Ive seen it in a law firm, construction. Its the power users they have to work on next, which they are.

Us gamers are a strange quirk in the computer industry. We prefer and want machines that are heavy hitters that, I would say, 90% of the world dont need/want. There are gamers running on computers bought from Best Buy or Wal Mart, but even those machines have been altered a bit for gaming.

Could be wrong though. Cloud computing may stay business only. I can see our game servers being virtual though. I wouldnt be surprised if there were GSPs running citrix or vmware on things today. Its amazing how much resources are underutilized that could be re-structured elsewhere.

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[Kylee!]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

Daaaaaaaang.

I really don't know much about IT infrastructure haha.

[Vreki]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

You boot into your OS via the NIC. It loads into your solid state drive. We are talking 20 years here though. HOPEFULLY by then bandwidth will be enough that the time it takes to load you are loading Windows 23. There will be online storage systems that hold your data. You now buy a PC for $300 and then rent your storage for $200 a year and you have access to whatever.

Todays NAS setups show that storage can be anything anywhere. Todays servers can be setup with no hard drives in them at all, booting from a Vmware USB key, while clients boot their thin clients up to access their system via PXE boot (Finally a use for it).

Ah, but NAS does not usually contain time-critical data. You wont notice if you movie-streaming is 500ms underway.
We have a bunch of "Disk-less" servers at my work. Except that they are connected to a nearby SAN through fibre-optics. Because while data might be anywhere, it has to be here right now when needed.
And that is on a traditional client / server setup where the user might accept a slight delay in a query, I cant see anything really interactive happing on a distant hosting service.

Latency is the key, is has to be minimized either through nearby servers, or some amazing black magic technology breakthroug.

[CptainCrunch]

Re: Mod tools not looking so good.

Yeah, which we may have in 20 years. The things they are doing to SANs today are making them really fast just by spreading data across more disk drives. Change those disks to RAM and now you have wire speed. Fiber channel will probably be dead in about 5 to 10 years just because of the other things they are doing in all the other technology. They are making everything wire speed and turning once physical hardware, like switches, into virtual appliances. So everything is running at memory/processor speed. The industry has also been working on caching techniques for quite a few years and that is really showing some improvements on once slow lines.

But again, this is 20 year stuff. Right now, you are correct that latency is holding some things back. The industry knows this though and that black magic may not be far off.

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