people always tellin me to bail out?wtf

[Sloi sauce]

You talk of demanding respect while claiming that you have the right to disrespect the team via your inability to use the assets properly, ultimately leading the team to a quick defeat. How does that make any sense?

By virtue of being better, we have more rights to those vehicles than you do. I've always looked at it as a meritocracy: the best man for the job gets the vehicle and the others help in other ways. It may not necessarily be fair, but we don't live in a fair world.

If you suck, you're not getting the job. If you're ugly/have no personality, you won't get the girl. If you can't shoot a basket-ball or catch a football, expect to be picked last. If you're not intelligent, don't expect a free ride through high school and college.

Starting to connect the dots? If you suck in helis, expect to be forcibly removed.

I used to be the nicest guy in this game. Ironically, the very people I tried to help get better made me this way... I should've seen it coming a mile away, though. What can I say, I'm a little naive like that.

[Chris_Redfield]

Too bad Pred is gone. Ive offered you and Churrasco the chance of making a newbie gunner video, many a times. Or a newbie pilot video.

Please do so. That will shut the incompetent folks up, for at least a week, before the b!tching re-starts.

[waaah_wah]

Yes. Cool. Someone who TKs for jets and is horrible in air and has less time spent in squads than an average air whore, also likes to give advice on how jet and chopper pilots should play their game and do "teamwork".

Sorry Waaah, youre a transparent and selfcontradicting fool who couldnt win an argument even with an infant suffering from Down syndrome.

I kinda love how you know everything about me. Its truly amazing at times. Tell me, when have i TKd someone for a jet who didnt TK me previously, and wtf does my time in a squad have to do with anything?

[LaikaSB]

Im always amazed at how long these threads get before theyre locked.

But anyway, since DarQraven doesnt understand what its like to have to put up with a terrible copilot, Ill try to give an example he can relate to.

Imagine that EA patched a second seat into all jets. Now, a copilot controls the bombs and missiles while the pilot of the jet is responsible for flying the aircraft and shooting the MG. Put yourself in the position of a pilot with a terrible copilot. Your copilot cant bomb for his life and never fires the missiles at the right time. Would you have fun in that position?

[Sloi sauce]

Too bad Pred is gone. Ive offered you and Churrasco the chance of making a newbie gunner video, many a times. Or a newbie pilot video.

Please do so. That will shut the incompetent folks up, for at least a week, before the b!tching re-starts.

It'll instruct a few people who visit these boards, but the core problem won't go away. Besides, I've already given enough to these ingrates.

Imagine that EA patched a second seat into all jets. Now, a copilot controls the bombs and missiles while the pilot of the jet is responsible for flying the aircraft and shooting the MG. Put yourself in the position of a pilot with a terrible copilot. Your copilot cant bomb for his life and never fires the missiles at the right time. Would you have fun in that position?

Your example isn't done yet. Add to that the enemy jets that keep locking on to yours, following you around everywhere you go: even if your pilot were to outmaneuver them and get in a position to shoot missiles, would the co-pilot do it? Nope.

Until they put in their dues in Singleplayer and Local Server, followed by small online servers, this kind of bullsh*t will keep happening.

[Chris_Redfield]

I kinda love how you know everything about me. Its truly amazing at times. Tell me, when have i TKd someone for a jet who didnt TK me previously, and wtf does my time in a squad have to do with anything?

Youre transparent like a piece of glass. I kind of remember the fun me, Sloi and Churrasco had disecting your stats and revealing that you werent the "competent", "teamworking" and "honest" pilot you claimed to be.

Thanks for admitting the truth.

Tell me, when have i TKd someone for a jet who didnt TK me previously

Amusing thing is, even with people like me, who are front line FF-ON bombers and get a massive ammount of TKs, you topped my TK-per-kill ratio by 2X. :laugh:

The point is simple. If youre incompetent, it shows. If you want to pick a fight, cover your bases.

And yes, I did enjoy "education in how to be a good teamplayer" from someone who has less than 50% of his time in vBF2 in a squad, just as much as an average vBF2 player, someone who he has multiple times called degrading names.

Amusing.

Had enough?

[DarQraven]

Im always amazed at how long these threads get before theyre locked.

But anyway, since DarQraven doesnt understand what its like to have to put up with a terrible copilot, Ill try to give an example he can relate to.

Imagine that EA patched a second seat into all jets. Now, a copilot controls the bombs and missiles while the pilot of the jet is responsible for flying the aircraft and shooting the MG. Put yourself in the position of a pilot with a terrible copilot. Your copilot cant bomb for his life and never fires the missiles at the right time. Would you have fun in that position?

Yeah, and also, read my first post where I actually DEFEND your point of view and completely agree that people should learn helicopter combat before taking it online. You might want to read the discussion before you take posts out of context. If it's too long for you to read, don't reply.

Again, my answer is: if you want a decent copilot, THEN GO PLAY WITH ONE OR SEVERAL OF THEM. Don't blame pub players for not being up to your standards.

[Sparabara]

Alright us chopper whores who constantly tell people to bail out are f*cking assh*les, but when we tell you to bail out, don't stoop down to our level by refusing and being stubborn. We will not fly you. Just accept that we are assh*les and get the f*ck out of our chopper.

[Xodus]

Long thread. I'm in before lock.

BTW, why should we destroy our fun by having someone incompetent in our seat. If it's between me having fun, or someone else having fun. I'm got to choose me having fun 90% of the time...

[Sloi sauce]

My fun and your fun aren't mutually exclusive. I have a sh*tload of fun flying with Spara, Cynic, Pred, Tiki and plenty others who know what they're doing. That's the key concept here: ability. If we're working together efficiently, I can guarantee you that we'll be having a blast in the process.

[imported_bigpappa]

My fun and your fun aren't mutually exclusive. I have a sh*tload of fun flying with Spara, Cynic, Pred, Tiki and plenty others who know what they're doing. That's the key concept here: ability. If we're working together efficiently, I can guarantee you that we'll be having a blast in the process.

i know what i am doing, i have been playing the battlefield series longer than you, u are not qualified to play on my internet.

[The Laughing Man]

Chris

I am sorry that yet again you have failed to grasp the basic concept of what I was trying to get across. Please feel free to bang on about your potential fun levels, please feel free to assume that you require to be a chopper pilot, elite or otherwise, to be able to understand respecting other players. Please continue to assume that I was asking that you take noobs under your wing and teach them when all I was saying was fly with them and accept they will do what they want to do, please continue to half read replies and draw whatever meaningless conclusion it is you draw. I can only assume that either you have a basic inability to read and draw sensible conclusion either that or you seem to be acting dense on purpose at least it helps to cover your *** when you reply... well expect when you're directly contradicting yourself that is. Well done you've cheered me up but end of the day Waah waah said it best

The bottomline is: Arguing with Chris is like arguing with a woman, they never listen and put words you never spoke in your mouth

My only concern is that even after all these posts you still haven't grasped the very basic thing I was trying to get across, mind you you could strap the point to a brick, glue it to the front of a truck and then drive the truck in to your face and chances are you would still fail to get it.

Sloi

You grasped the respect concept far better than Chris did, I noticed he started talking about respect towards the end of his last post but to be honest by then I had checked out. Lol seems I read his last post as well as he seems to read everyone elses.

I was wondering when someone else would bring up the concept of the noob co pilot not showing respect when asked nicely to leave. I thought you would have been the one that would have mentioned it seems that Sparabara got there in a more direct form with

Alright us chopper whores who constantly tell people to bail out are f*cking assh*les, but when we tell you to bail out, don't stoop down to our level by refusing and being stubborn. We will not fly you. Just accept that we are assh*les and get the f*ck out of our chopper.

No matter your comment about not respecting the team as a whole because you can't fly the chopper to your full ability was a curve ball to say the least. Not by the fact that it's unanswerable but more by the fact that you think you flying round with a noob is going to make such a massive significant difference to the overall out come of the battle. I am not saying that it won't have an effect but to the point where any one except you would notice, know or feel disrespected by it..? I seriously doubt it.

I am out, solely because I can see, like every topic about which people feel especially passionate, that no matter what you say or do you're always gonna think you're right and the guy(s) you're arguing with will always think they are right. I am cool with that and have no real desire to get stuck with this meaningless back and forth about something that is in general totally insignificant.

[Sloi sauce]

i know what i am doing, i have been playing the battlefield series longer than you, u are not qualified to play on my internet.

Get the f*ck out of this thread, you stupid *** troll.

It's not like you ever have anything of substance to add, anyway.

you think you flying round with a noob is going to make such a massive significant difference to the overall out come of the battle. I am not saying that it won't have an effect but to the point where any one except you would notice, know or feel disrespected by it..? I seriously doubt it.

Mathematically speaking, the difference between a competent and incompetent* player or team is significant. We're talking about a difference of 50+ tickets here: that's easily one sixth of all tickets a team may eliminate from the opposition. Believe me, when your team has a proficient soloer or chopper team, you will take notice rather quickly.


* At least one of the members

[imported_Zach]

i know what i am doing, i have been playing the battlefield series longer than you, u are not qualified to play on my internet.

Get the f*ck out of this thread, you stupid *** troll.

It's not like you ever have anything of substance to add, anyway.

Ah, I see he touched a nerve with his satirical wisdom. :laugh:

Let me translate in case you missed his point: Regardless of your enormous ego, you do not own the BF franchise. Talking like you are doing us a favor by letting us play the game on the same server as you is not only laughable, but insulting as well. The last time I checked, EA did not grant you exclusive rights to any and all attack helicopters and sole authority over who could and couldn't ride in the gunner's seat; had they, I'm sure you would have spammed the certificate all over the internet by now.

You speak as if our eternal souls are in balance here. Get a grip. If some n00b gunner hops in "your" chopper, so freaking what? Get over yourself. It's just a game.

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

ROFL! this threads still going :shock:

i thought it would have been closed by now.. Sloi go deflate ur ego man u wont be able to fit out the front door if u keep going... although judging by ur so called "experience" i dont think going out the front door is somthing u do too regularly anyway..:shakehead

everyone cool down and just agree to dissagree..