Top 5 Clans in BF2142

[Fingulfin]

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just tell my clan mates that.....

I really don't think mace cheats.

The clans to beat in this order:
1. Wild$ide
2. D.V.
3. NxS
4. HLC2
5. tie between mace and Crimson

Woah, you think WILDSIDE is the best? They have beat us twice, yes, but the last time they did it was 9-0 (ticket wise) for a 2-1 victory. IMO, wildside = L13 in skill lvl. Most of L13 is friends with the Wildside guys, we have unnofficial scrims on our server alot, and they go both ways. They are good players, yes, but they aren't that much better than us.

Besides, your cute little 5v5 IO doesn't really mean much. Come and play with us the way 2142 was supposed to be played - with vehicles. All the IO clans who have tried moving over to 8v8 Conquest have gotten mercilessly slaughtered by =L13= and >mace<.

[serevalassassin]

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I guess t1 isn't that bad as most of you seem to play a IO comp.

[imported_Ezekiel]

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Besides, your cute little 5v5 IO doesn't really mean much. Come and play with us the way 2142 was supposed to be played - with vehicles. All the IO clans who have tried moving over to 8v8 Conquest have gotten mercilessly slaughtered by =L13= and >mace<.

Fixed it for you :p

[Fingulfin]

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Fixed it for you :p

Meh. You Europeans don't even play the game proper, you play with your little clan mod. Your logic is that it takes more "skill" to play with only T1 unlocks, when in all reality its MUCH harder to survive when everyone can customize their kits. I bought 2142 for the game, not for some little mod that takes away 3/4 of the features the game comes with. Why you do is way beyond me

[Icetrojan]

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yey a fellow clan mod hater! and im a euro one to !

[imported_Ezekiel]

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yey a fellow clan mod hater! and im a euro one to !

You hate clan mod cos your low skilled, no offense like.

@ Fingulfin

All unlocks is just like playing public, clan mod brings the game down to just skill, awareness and tactics. We dont need to hide behind armour to get our kills. Yes it's only Europeans who use it, but thats because thats where the best players are situated.

Look at all the major stuff like leagues and cups, it's always the INF options that attract more teams.

ESL is the best gaming league around, that is where the top teams all play, and they have all leagues, but the INF leagues are the only actives ones.

The Nations Cup, which contained roughly 32 nations, once again was an INF cup.

[Fingulfin]

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I rest my case? Just like I said, you IO/Clanmod players simply lack the skill to survive in a full environment. How about some 12V12 Titan? No way, the Europeans don't know how to fly a gunship... Or use motion mines, properly defend flags, destroy armor... All you know is ol' western "Draw! *pow pow*". It takes MUCH more awareness when your enemy use using his ghost and sneaking to your back bases, when you have 15 seconds to set up a defense good enough to stop 2 tanks and a walker and to get everyone into ambush positions. Clanmod you might as well line up firing-sqaud style. Its NOT more proffessional, you are missing out on 3/4 of the game.

[Lolyn]

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I rest my case? Just like I said, you IO/Clanmod players simply lack the skill to survive in a full environment. How about some 12V12 Titan? No way, the Europeans don't know how to fly a gunship... Or use motion mines, properly defend flags, destroy armor... All you know is ol' western "Draw! *pow pow*". It takes MUCH more awareness when your enemy use using his ghost and sneaking to your back bases, when you have 15 seconds to set up a defense good enough to stop 2 tanks and a walker and to get everyone into ambush positions. Clanmod you might as well line up firing-sqaud style. Its NOT more proffessional, you are missing out on 3/4 of the game.

I play all game types - and I can fly a gunship. In fact, my clan play pretty much any game type with a good degree of success. We're 4th on our infantry ladder and we haven't lost a titan round yet (currently 3rd in our ladder and we've only just joined it). That's round, not game. Most rounds we win with our shields still up. We've got the #1 in the UK with the pilum, 2 insanely talented walkerwhores who are very good on the ground too, and a mean selection of all rounders who'll happily deliver pain whether it'd be a sudnik to the face or a ganz to the rear. Hell, and we've also got slaney who has the most creative jihad ever to grace the field. So there's at least one clan for you which pretty much disproves the majority of that above quote.

Just because the general forum populus here are IO nutters doesn't mean the (quite frankly massive) Euro populus playing the game doesn't have any form of titan/conquest representation. And what we do have are even better at playing titan/conquest because they've got the basics covered in force by playing clanmod. Oh, and ghost/camo or even just ghost = fail. In my time playing clanmatches every time I've watched BR and seen people try to use this they fail, CQ, IO or titan. Our defence setup always stops them, something to do with the clanmod training of knowing where to be I believe - and then I love finding the person trying to be sneaky and laugh heartily as their lambert fires rubber bullets. Also, what if a clanmod team took you out of your tank/walker/apc - then it becomes an infantry based battle, which you're bound to lose. Armour really isn't difficult to take out in a full conquest game with a bit of co-ordination... which clanmod teams have in force.

Besides, as I said and as you won't be able to appreciate because you haven't seen for yourself, the best clanmod players DO survive in a full environment and normally take apart entire servers. Redhammerz for a key example although there's many more. The reason why they do so well is because their aim is phenomenal. I think you also neglect to figure that if a clanmod player is that good at aiming, who's to say they couldn't use rockets and the rest of the unlocks if they chose? Most of the rest of the weapons come naturally once you've got basic assault skills set in - at least, give me any weapon and I'd happily wreak carnage with it. At the end of the day they could be just as smart with utilising armour as you "all unlocks only" types could be - it's not like we lack plenty of skilled armour pilots either, but they're always going to be better shots if they're taken down.

In anycase, for every clanmod team the EU has, we have about 2-3 vanilla teams. It's not exactly like we don't have a large amount of people in the EU who dislike clanmod for the exact same reason - but the difference is that the EU vanilla-people know what crazy clanmodders are like. Hell... you haven't played the game yet if you haven't played against a strong country national team member - you can decide on their "skill" after you've been floored by them repeatedly :P

I think you should've used your green again buddy. You made a lot of silly assumptions in that post that you don't have much evidence to back up EU can't fly a gunship.... clanmodders with no skill in all unlocks environments.... puhlease!

The only thing I can agree with is the underlying sentiment that anyone who shuns public/all unlocks entirely is more than a bit fail. It doesn't make them low skilled, hell... a lot of people with that attitude of loathing towards full unlocks are very good players... but spending up to £40 (from release) on a game to just enjoy a small sect of it is a bit of a waste. I for one won't shun other game types if its somebody elses bag but I can't let you shun a continent so wrecklessly like that :P As soon as you say "you Europeans...." you've just made an (albeit largely misinformed) presumption on a massive player base.

[hooahguy]

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I really don't think mace cheats.

obi doesnt think that....

[imported_Ezekiel]

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What most Titan/conquest players lack is shooting, so a clan mod team could train most of there team to use vehicles and leave maybe one guy on the floor, that one clan mod guy wouldnt need any help in taking out 2-4 opponents, mostly with the same clip as well.

Ps; The ghost is useless it lacks any range for it to be useful on a large map.

[Fingulfin]

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obi doesnt think that....

Obi thinks everyone cheats. Only H4yd3n would get this, but Obi is SongofWar 2.0. In fact... In one match we were playing, Obi accused song and song accused Obi. It was pretty durned funny :p

@Lolyn: My assumption was mostly stereotypical. Of course there are Europeans who can fly and use vehicles, however those chaps tend to play the actual game :laugh: I was talking about the "IO Nutters" and "Clanmod Fanatics"... Nothing against the normal EU populace. However you have to note that Ezekiel stereotyped you guys too... If you take his statements as literally as you took mine, you would see that he suggests that all EU players are IO whores and clanmod fanatics. Moral of the story, if you know what someone is talking about when they make a stereotypical statement, don't make a page long post about it :nod:

Just so you know, I have played clanmod before (I even have the latest version installed on my computer right now), and I didn't have any fun. Not that I couldn't kill anyone (Krylov FTW), but that I was missing out on the things I love most about 2142 (read: UNLOCKS). The horrible ping (160+) didn't improve my experience either.

As for clanmod clans tearing apart normal servers, thats NORMAL. Anyone with half decent skill can tear apart a server. I'm only an average player, and my little brother is slightly below average... But because we sit right next to each other and coordinate, we SHRED through pub servers. Its not the fact that we can "aim" (ANYONE can aim if the work on it), its because we work together and keep each other going. I don't even have to mention what two or three of my clan mates do to servers :dead:

As for the Ghost... Whatever clan you went against who tried this obviously doesn't know how it works :p If you don't start with a good distraction (6 man bum rush+Orbital+EMP) of course he is going to fail... Nobody simply sits their guys down and waits for a lone recon to get past the wolfs den :laugh: Besides, by saying that you are backing up my statement... You have to be alot more aware of your surroundings when you know the enemy has that option. Situational awareness comes by playing the game and watching how players behave... I don't see how taking away all the unlocks used to sneak about improves it.

At any rate, sorry if you took "You Europeans" a bit harshly... I was just responding to Ezekiel.

[Fingulfin]

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What most Titan/conquest players lack is shooting, so a clan mod team could train most of there team to use vehicles and leave maybe one guy on the floor, that one clan mod guy wouldnt need any help in taking out 2-4 opponents, mostly with the same clip as well.

Ps; The ghost is useless it lacks any range for it to be useful on a large map.

Thats what you think I should make a Ghost video... On 64 man servers I have capped flags out from under the enemies noses with the ghost. Its a VERY powerful tool if you understand how to use it. TWL has a no NS unlocks rule though :cry:

[imported_Ezekiel]

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Well theres a difference between you "Tearing" a public server apart and people like me and other good players. You and your brother combined wouldn't be as affected as us, co-ordination means nothing when you two combined can't match the shooting prowess of us, combine all you want, revive all you want, all that will happen is we will come out on top. But then imagine if me and a clan mate, hmm lets just take Crosland were to go on a server, i believe the damage would be twice as large as you and your brother as we are far better, the main factor comes down to skill, and we all know skill is down to Aiming, response time and awareness. The 3 main factors, which is what is used in clan mod. You say anyone can aim, in fact it is easier to become good with a vehicle than it is to get accuracy.

End of day Clan Mod is were the best players are etc. Now i still like public, heck i only downloaded and installed Clan Mod at the beginning of the year after being asked to represent my country. Until then i had never bothered with it, clan mod was at it's peak last year, i joined after it and still dont play it much, i play 2142 every now and then and usually public, maybe a quick 30 or so min of clan mod, but i just go to the matches and play, knowing we can beat practically anyone. Example for the nations cup final, the UK lost by 3 tickets, i hadn't played 2142 nor had practically the whole team for 2 weeks before, we were just having fun on CS:S, because it was something different, yes it was silly if we had played 2142 we would of won, but hey we we will still take a silver medal, we know along with the Russians that were better than them.

Clan Mod FTW :)

Thats what you think I should make a Ghost video... On 64 man servers I have capped flags out from under the enemies noses with the ghost. Its a VERY powerful tool if you understand how to use it. TWL has a no NS unlocks rule though :cry:

I just use skill to kill them all and take the flag. Much easier and more affective.

[Fingulfin]

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Well theres a difference between you "Tearing" a public server apart and people like me and other good players. You and your brother combined wouldn't be as affected as us, co-ordination means nothing when you two combined can't match the shooting prowess of us, combine all you want, revive all you want, all that will happen is we will come out on top. But then imagine if me and a clan mate, hmm lets just take Crosland were to go on a server, i believe the damage would be twice as large as you and your brother as we are far better, the main factor comes down to skill, and we all know skill is down to Aiming, response time and awareness. The 3 main factors, which is what is used in clan mod. You say anyone can aim, in fact it is easier to become good with a vehicle than it is to get accuracy.

The point in me saying me and my brother can shred a server is to show how pathetically easy it is. As I said, I am only an average player and he is slightly below average... If two people who are not phenomenal players can take apart servers as bad as we do, the fact that pros who play clan mod can doesn't mean much.

Easy to get good with a vehicle? I'll take you up on that. How long to do think it would take you to get good with a gunship? It took me a good 6 months of whoring the thing. I picked up the Krylov and learned how to get 50-80% accuracy in two weeks. Anyway, if you want to take up my challenge, please post... I would love to feed you some TV Missile

[Killerus]

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ok enough e-peen waving, starting to look like a sausage fight around here.