Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

[Verzili]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

seat switching does turn off the missile lock..so that part is unfair to guys on the ground in mobile or stationary AA.

in some cases i imagine that a solo pilot could change the way the map goes,

but so can a good jet pilot,a good squad ect.

i do try and get the chopper now and then but its best to stay away from that due to the 9/10 times i go near a chopper i get tk,rammed ect.

from my personal play style and trying to help the team win,i enjoy camping enemy airfield's

works good with 2 snipers,1 spec ops,1 support and helva load of teamwork on teh voip.

1 sniper covers the chopper other covers the sniper,spec ops blows up assets supply guy keeps the ammo coming.

much more effective way to disrupt the enemy co-ordination,

does any one bar the commander actually care who wins the dam round..i find the excuse of helping the team to win a bit of false.

players get the chopper for there own benefit at the end of the day.

now lets just pretend for a minute seat switching in the air was impossible in bf2.

would you still fly solo then?

with that missile lock ringing in you're ear more than usual ,

having to take targets out with hellfire missle's

pretty hard to get a plane with them also(possible im sure but regular i doubt)

im not bashing the skill for what it is,it takes a lot of practice to get it perfect..i respect that.

but that should be for clan games imo.

public servers are where most players want to chill out and have some fun.

a small minority take it really serious and demand everyone should be this good at xxx and so on.

if solo's don't care about stat's points then why don't they take the bad gunners/pilots with the good.

it cant always be a perfect gunner/pilot every time thats bf2 for you :)

[G0ggy]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

I consider flying solo to be an exploit, just like bunny hopping. What pilot would leave his pilot seat climb over to the gunner seat and then back? It's one of the main disappointments in BF2. EA should have locked seating positions once an attack chopper is airborne, but it might have been too much trouble. Also, BF2 is meant to be about team play and flying solo is very much the opposite of this. Chopper who0res may have fun doing this, but this goes to the detriment of others.

I completely agree, I know if I want 'reality' I should install PR, but why should I? I like BF2 as it is.

I also reiterate one of my previous suggestions that Pilot and Gunner should of been a class, then hopefully it would stop the tedious queues that build up for air vehicles, instead of people getting out there and capturing flags.

[JustARandom]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

The people who can do it properly make it an art form. The people who sit at 300+ meters make it look stupid.

A soloer who can make it look like art, is just as good as any two man team.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

Before soloing was as widespread as now, chopper pilots were still called "whores", remember the nerf from 14 to 8? Adapting to changes was a lifestyle for pilots. People still did hell of a damage with 14 rockets.

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

I remember when we had a 650 meter TV missile range: if you think it's bad now, just imagine how pissed off people were when we took them out from across the map. There were a lot of cheating accusations back then...

[camper.]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

Actually to those morons who use real life as an excuse to whine. In real life, the pilot can take over the functions of the weapons officer. On his own seat! Isnt that wicked kool?!?!?!?

Don't be silly, he jumps down from his seat to the gunner's seat and back up again (leaving the pilot seat for too long affects the moment of rotation causing the chopper to spin about an odd axis and hence lose vertical thrust).

[G0ggy]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

I like the antagonistic way he starts the sentence "Actually to those morons..." nice...

With regards to a 'real life' pilot, surely in doing so he would be severely restricted in his ability to fly, target, shoot etc...?

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

Don't be silly, he jumps down from his seat to the gunner's seat and back up again (leaving the pilot seat for too long affects the moment of rotation causing the chopper to spin about an odd axis and hence lose vertical thrust).

We dont see him jump, he appears, which leaves much room for speculation which is if course all BS as the game is still played through the players perspective in an FPS environment.

For all intents and purposes, the pilot, the player, is simply switching between the the navigational and offensive tasks of the weapons platform, everything else can be ignored. Hence the argument of "in real life, you need a gunner" is flawed because in BF2, as in real life, pilot can control both flight and armament. BF2 was never designed to be HOTAS though, you lose control just by utilizing mouselook...

Goggy, you nail it. "Surely it would restrict", and it does, doesnt it?

[G0ggy]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

IMHO not enough, the solo helicopter pilot is still a formidable force. Also if it is true that AA lock is lost by this practise then there's more of an unfair advantage going on.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

Video proof all over the net, aswell as personal experience that the lock does not change. What may happen is that the missile skips through the chopper. The whole process is buggy as hell, thanks to coding. And while the TV missile is in fligh, youve got a good window of opportunity while the pilot can do nothing. Its not the games fault that pilots perfect the whole TVing procedure, its the pilots fault. Think about it, isnt it logical to assume that a good soloer will do everything to improve while flying in a vehicle he has genuine fun in? Improve to the limit when whatever he does, it comes off as an intuitive set of choices, hitting a tank with the TV missile comes with a whole barrage of procedures starting with setting the chopper to an angle of minimum turn once hes on the copilots seat.

Its improvement without limitations because its fun to fly and its not fun to die. Blame the people and the limitless potential of a weapon that is 100% user guided.

[camper.]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

We dont see him jump, he appears, which leaves much room for speculation which is if course all BS as the game is still played through the players perspective in an FPS environment.

For all intents and purposes, the pilot, the player, is simply switching between the the navigational and offensive tasks of the weapons platform, everything else can be ignored. Hence the argument of "in real life, you need a gunner" is flawed because in BF2, as in real life, pilot can control both flight and armament. BF2 was never designed to be HOTAS though, you lose control just by utilizing mouselook...

He is obviously using the latest MetaMaterial Cloaking Technology™© to do that, but I promise, he takes a good leap over the partition and hops down into the second seat. Hence why US cavalry enlistees must be good at hurdles.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

For all intents and purposes, the pilot, the player, is simply switching between the the navigational and offensive tasks of the weapons platform, everything else can be ignored.

Yush!

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

Mmmm, this thread makes me want to go solo.

[Adamshannon8]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

So, why is soloing frowned upon?

cause 90% of bf2 players can't solo and they think its cheap cause they won't go learn in SP like the rest of us did.

Mmmm, this thread makes me want to go solo.

and it makes me want to film more of me tving jets while soloing.

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: Chopper soloing: a problem or an art?

last time i checked this was a team game. i guess the other 63 people dont count anymore.