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  • imported_Neptune
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 1021

    #31
    Re: Flying heli help

    Originally posted by Doggie52 View Post
    QFT! Seriously, KBM is better due to the fact that with the joystick, you control a stick with two axes, and keeping an exact position with it is a pain. With the mouse you just keep your mouse on one spot.
    You mean its hard to hold it in one spot, steady, other than dead center...

    Yeah that spring is killer strong, my hand shakes like mad trying to fight that beast.

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    • Boztech

      #32
      Re: Flying heli help

      Originally posted by Sloi View Post
      ControlMap.addKeysToAxisMapping c_PIYaw IDFKeyboard IDKey_D IDKey_A 0
      ControlMap.addAxisToAxisMapping c_PIPitch IDFMouse IDAxis_1 0 0
      ControlMap.addKeysToAxisMapping c_PIPitch IDFKeyboard IDKey_ArrowUp IDKey_ArrowDown 1
      ControlMap.addAxisToAxisMapping c_PIRoll IDFMouse IDAxis_0 0 0
      ControlMap.addKeysToAxisMapping c_PIRoll IDFKeyboard IDKey_ArrowRight IDKey_ArrowLeft 1
      ControlMap.addKeysToAxisMapping c_PIThrottle IDFKeyboard IDKey_W IDKey_S 0

      Just open your controls.con and replace what you have in the
      ControlMap.create HelicopterPlayerInputControlMap
      with the above.
      this is way off-topic, but i noticed in your helo tutorial you refer to the tube-launched rockets on the AH-1Z as "4 Canisters of 8 - hellfire missiles"

      this is incorrect - they are Hydra 70 rockets

      a "hellfire" or "helicoptor launched fire and forget" is the AGM-114 missile and its variants and is actually radar or laser-guided as opposed to optically as it is for BF2 gameplay, which sort of negates the point of the acronym... it's operation would be more similar to the A2G missile ordinance on the F-15, SU-30, and SU-34 in BF2 gameplay which use similar ordinance IRL

      this is the same rocket used today on Predator UAVs and various drones deployed by US Army forces for surgical strikes in the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan

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      • Sloi sauce

        #33
        Re: Flying heli help

        Yeah, I screwed up the names. Who would've thought, huh?

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        • Boztech

          #34
          Re: Flying heli help

          Originally posted by Sloi View Post
          Yeah, I screwed up the names. Who would've thought, huh?
          not meaning to be picky

          i served as an AO at Pensacola 02-04

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          • DOGGiE52
            Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 2680

            #35
            Re: Flying heli help

            Originally posted by Neptune
            You mean its hard to hold it in one spot, steady, other than dead center...

            Yeah that spring is killer strong, my hand shakes like mad trying to fight that beast.
            Just because you feel you need to stand out from the crowd and think that your joystick will help you conquer "all those noobs on KBM" doesn't mean you're right. The KBM setup is just plain better for the chopper than the joystick. Accept it.

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            • Skaggy
              Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 1974

              #36
              Re: Flying heli help

              Spotting and using mouse-look is much easier with Mouse/Keyboard...

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              • imported_Neptune
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 1021

                #37
                Re: Flying heli help

                Originally posted by Doggie52 View Post
                Just because you feel you need to stand out from the crowd and think that your joystick will help you conquer "all those noobs on KBM" doesn't mean you're right. The KBM setup is just plain better for the chopper than the joystick. Accept it.
                enough of this already, i didnt say i would "own all the noobs." i just dont see WHY the kb+m is better, but clearly nobody can explain it.

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                • DOGGiE52
                  Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 2680

                  #38
                  Re: Flying heli help

                  Originally posted by Skaggy View Post
                  Spotting and using mouse-look much easier with Mouse/Keyboard...
                  The joystick can be configured to do that, but still, it's easier with the mouse yeah.

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                  • Steppenwolf428

                    #39
                    Re: Flying heli help

                    I think it depends on the person and what they are more comfortable with. For my the joystick is better but for others its kb+m

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                    • Chris_Redfield
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 5986

                      #40
                      Re: Flying heli help

                      I do spotting and mouselooking with a stick, with JTK set up to give me a one-click spotting.

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                      • Syndr0me

                        #41
                        Re: Flying heli help

                        I just use KB+...KB? (WASD + Arrows). I don't even touch the mouse. No one else does that.

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                        • Skaggy
                          Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1974

                          #42
                          Re: Flying heli help

                          Originally posted by Syndr0me View Post
                          I just use KB+...KB? (WASD + Arrows). I don't even touch the mouse. No one else does that.
                          I could imagine it's not popular because it's either on or off. there is no middle ground, like there is with a mouse or joystick.

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                          • Chris_Redfield
                            Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 5986

                            #43
                            Re: Flying heli help

                            Naw Skaggy, its simply because keyboard offers a lot less keys. You can have one thumb play around a whole mess of keys on the JS for example.

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                            • Sneaky

                              #44
                              Re: Flying heli help

                              For chops, I like the M/K flying.
                              I tryed the Joy in the beginning but I cant get used to it.
                              With over 650 hours of M/KB flying I can fly the chop pretty well.

                              I think that it will be hard to tell wich way of flying is better, joy or mouse/keyboard or whatever.
                              It all depents of how skilled the guy is behind the buttons/mouse/joy.

                              Look at Cors0, he fly's chops like a pro with the Joy.
                              He is one of the best out there when it comes to extreme chopper flying.

                              Some of his vids :





                              Sloi,

                              Just what (for example) do you think a mouse/kb pilot can do what a joy pilot cant do?

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                              • camper.
                                Member
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3459

                                #45
                                Re: Flying heli help

                                Originally posted by Chris_Redfield View Post
                                Naw Skaggy, its simply because keyboard offers a lot less keys. You can have one thumb play around a whole mess of keys on the JS for example.
                                Not if you use the numpad.

                                But it would be hard to get used to it.

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