Getting Owned by Dive To Prone

[imported_Predator]

Re: Getting Owned by Dive To Prone

Hopping around, and prone diving like a complete short-bus rider, takes NO SKILL.

You are right that those tactics don't take skill, but that does not mean the person doing them has no skill, which is my point. One could also argue that walking around without BHing doesn't take any skill either. The point is, movement has nothing to do with a person's skill.

[Combat-Quokka]

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yawn. more noobs complaining because they have no skill, and want to change the game so that their lack of skill can be compensated for.

[imported_Predator]

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yawn. more noobs complaining because they have no skill, and want to change the game so that their lack of skill can be compensated for.

The truth.

You guys can say you don't like BHing because it makes the game unrealistic but that is an excuse. The truth is you don't like it because it makes the game harder for you. When people BH you cannot kill them very well, thus you call it an exploit and say the person is not an honest player because they don't slowly jog around like a sitting duck. You don't like it because it makes the game too hard for you, and that is the truth. Try to come to terms with it.

[=sds=god]

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BH you stupid *** idiot, was never intended to be in the game, in the 1st place. So the apparent lack of skill you talk about, isnt even an issue.
Its for NooBs like you to take advantage, because of Dice's poor coding, and poor gameplay all together. Go back to playing UT or some fantasy FPS.

O and PS.
Post-script for you TARDS out there...
My lack of skill....please....sdsgod....come find me on Xfire, and join against me sometime.

[imported_Predator]

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BH you stupid *** idiot, was never intended to be in the game, in the 1st place. So the apparent lack of skill you talk about, isnt even an issue.
Its for NooBs like you to take advantage, because of Dice's poor coding, and poor gameplay all together. Go back to playing UT or some fantasy FPS.

O and PS.
Post-script for you TARDS out there...
My lack of skill....please....sdsgod....come find me on Xfire, and join against me sometime.

Ya, and noobtubes were intended to be for vehicles. It is a way to make the game more skillfull. If you have the tallent that it's not a problem, why the hell are you complaining about it? If you want to see if "BHers" have skill, download bfpro and play with the CAL players. They will kick you *** into last week.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Looks like people are confused what "skill" is.

Skill in game is [handeyecoordination+keycombinationawarenessandmaxi mumuse+gamearenaexperience+playerbehaviourdynamics experience]

So Id say BH with a purpose and a goal, like a lot of people are doing, does take skill.

[DontKnockIt225]

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Read the first page and got bored of flames lol.

Bullets fire into your cross hair and do not fire out of the 4 little lines.
The bullets from the gun can fire at any part of the cross hair, so even if 10% of the cross hair covers someones head. it is approximately 10% chance of a head shot.

Sometimes you just get unlucky, i mean i have fire at someones head a whole round and always joke that the bullets fire across their shoulders in an almost silowet of their head lol.

When you are not getting unlucky, the way to beat dolphin divers is to simply shoot at their legs before they jump. while prone of course

This has several advantages

1) you get first shots off
2) it takes 4 body shots to kill, sometimes 3 so you can wipe em out before they dive
3) Once they complete their dive, you are already firing bullets at where they will land before they even reach there.
4) you never mistake someone die when aiming at their chest, when they go prone.... oh how embarrisin that is, they go prone and you think you kill them and then your dead lol.


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about other posts about RPK, i think support maybe still over powered, it was great back in the day when no1 played support lol and i got all the resupply points, but now support can be used as a great offensive weapon. However they are still massively challenged by medics and assult so its not so bad.

The medic guns G36E is slightly over powered i agree, 3 shot burst can be used long range and shoots very accurately and efficently. I refuse to use this weapon because when i do i feel like im cheating lol, far too many kills.

CLAYMORES ARE DEFENSIVE WEAPONS, AND SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR OFFENSIVE, you can say you are strategically placing them, welldone you want a medal?? takes no skill.

[TotalBF2er]

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yawn. more noobs complaining because they have no skill, and want to change the game so that their lack of skill can be compensated for.

Haha, just the opposite. We want the game to adhere more to realism, at least as much as can be possible in a video game. Getting a headshot by jumping to a prone position is not skilled, its a game mechanic programmed right in.

In any game I have played, the easiest tactic will be broadly used, not the hardest. So if the majority are spamming nades, it's because it's easy. If the majority are dive->proning for the kill, it must be an easy move. If people were running around on Karkand as assault GL'ing everyone, that's because it was easy... Hmm, don't see much GL'ing now, that nades have been found to be more effective? Interesting eh?

My best suggestion is when they dive and then prone is that you start jumping so you ruin their accuracy. And then you prone and shoot him down when he stands up.

I was doing that yesterday, and it worked. It caused and avoidance of that initial kill shot they always seemed to get. I angered one guy because he kept trying to kill me by proning, then I'd simply leap to the side (or in most cases over him) and he got upset at that and called me a bunnyhopper.

It didn't work against the long-range aimbot guys who I could see flopping to the ground followed by an amazing shot from the RPK, but when they got closer I started owning them by simply hopping right as they dived. Then I do my normal mobile shooting and take them out.

[imported_Predator]

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In any game I have played, the easiest tactic will be broadly used, not the hardest. So if the majority are spamming nades, it's because it's easy. If the majority are dive->proning for the kill, it must be an easy move. If people were running around on Karkand as assault GL'ing everyone, that's because it was easy... Hmm, don't see much GL'ing now, that nades have been found to be more effective? Interesting eh?

No, it's not the easiest tactic, it's the most effective. Most people with common sense and who don't care about supposed "video game honor" will do the tactics that allow them to move quicker, avoid fired better, and shoot more accurately. If you think you are too cool and honorable to learn to play the game right, by all means continue getting owned.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Im with you on this one Predator. I think its common sense that you use what the game allows you to do to its fullest. Although I personally draw the line right where the exploitation starts.

Each game has its own dynamics. Put the blame on DICE if you look for a bad guy.

[TotalBF2er]

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No, it's not the easiest tactic, it's the most effective.

It's the easiest.

[ichangedmyname]

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It is not noob, it is a legit tactic that will kick your ***. So stop complaining..

Cheers

[imported_Predator]

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Playing the game is a less effective way does not make you honorable, it makes you stupid.

It's the easiest.

BHing does not shoot aim the guns for you. It does not give you fast reactions. It does not make the game easier at all, it makes it much harder. In leagues like CAL where the tactics are widespread the skill level required to get a kill greatly increases. This makes the game harder, not easier. And you should not be talking about how to play this game considering your original post makes it very clear you have no idea how this game works.

[sassback]

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It is not noob, it is a legit tactic that will kick your ***. So stop complaining..

Cheers

its not that it is or isnt noob, it is that it is cheating. the OP was referring to the use of macros to jump and then go to prone while in mid air. it gives you the accuracy of going prone while making you almost impossible to hit (the fact that makes you look like an *** is merely a side effect). it is cheating that one can only do with third party software which is against the EULA agreeement. therefore it is cheating. the fact that people like you view it as legitimate and sometimes even endorse it, is as wrong as it is laughable. people like you are part of the problem not the solution.

*Predator: there is nothing wrong with bunnyhopping. i even do it on occasion to avoid apc cannons. :p however, that is not the issue here. like i said the OP was reffering to people using macros to prone spam, thus giving them an advantage against those who play this game as it was intended to be played.

[imported_Predator]

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its not that it is or isnt noob, it is that it is cheating. the OP was referring to the use of macros to jump and then go to prone while in mid air. it gives you the accuracy of going prone while making you almost impossible to hit (the fact that makes you look like an *** is merely a side effect). it is cheating that one can only do with third party software which is against the EULA agreeement. therefore it is cheating. the fact that people like you view it as legitimate and sometimes even endorse it, is as wrong as it is laughable. people like you are part of the problem not the solution.

*Predator: there is nothing wrong with bunnyhopping. i even do it on occasion to avoid apc cannons. :p however, that is not the issue here. like i said the OP was reffering to people using macros to prone spam, thus giving them an advantage against those who play this game as it was intended to be played.

Are you serious? There is no macro to go prone in midair. It's called pressing jump then prone. It's not hard and certainly does not require a macro, wtf is wrong with you people?