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  • Chris_Redfield
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 5986

    #136
    Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

    Originally posted by Batausu
    All this sounds like a desperate cry to me…
    LOL! Coming from a guy who thinks Im colony, PlaneWhore and a bunch of other aliases.

    Maybe you failed to understand what I asked you before: any PROOF?
    What kind of proof? I told you Ive got a 3:1 ratio in STA. You want to have a look at my stats for what reason exactly? You want to be assured that I am not lying? THIS sounds like a desperate cry to me.

    You failed to provide any stats. You and everyone here knows who I am.
    Every time someone shows his/hers stats in order to prove something in an argument, the whole topic shifts into an analyzation of said persons capabilities in a totally different area. Also, Ive got more than 5 accounts, which all mean that I dont give a schmuck about stats. I do however care about people who use stats as ammunition in an argument. That being said, I dont know who you are and I hardly think stats would tell me that. Youve shown to be a conspiracy theorist with little air knowledge, and while you have a respectable ammount in STA, your expectations are way too high for that said tool.

    You know how good or bad I am, I'm not ashamed to show my stats and I don't pretend to be any more than an average player who loves this game and plays for fun.
    I play for fun, and I also argue for fun. In the end of the day this is nothing more than 5 minutes worth of entertainment while I cook my dinner. Right next to daily news.

    And since you play for fun, why would you need to look at my stats for?

    But who are you? I hardly consider you're a real person anymore, playing this game with the rest of us.
    "Rest of us" is a stupid concept. In these forums, there are only 5 people Ive ever enjoyed to play with, or would like to create some intraweb gamers relationship with. Needless to say, youre not one of them. Not because I dont like you, but because I dont feel interested, I wouldnt give a sh!t. When I signed up on these forums, it was not because I wanted cyberpals, it was to have good conversations about a game I loved, and to learn from different people.

    You could be a bitter 80 years old grandma' for all I know. You could be hiding your disabilities, but still getting your kicks from bragging on-line and pushing people around on forums. Can you prove you're not?!
    Who the fvck do you thin you are!:laugh:

    Im a perfectly healthy 21 year old kid who likes heated arguments (online and offline), play videogames and girls.

    But wait! You probably want to see my pic!


    Here you go.

    Does it mean its balanced?
    Its not balanced. I would like some tweaks to be done. However, you and the rest of the n00b-bunch make it seem as if STA is worthless, while it really isnt.


    You are not an inexperienced player, are you? But perhaps you are, we can't tell for sure at this point.
    Im an experienced slightly above average pilot, with bad infantry skills. I am good in bed too, got my first "Expert Mojo" award last month.

    Anyway, I don't know why I expected anything nice from you. All you do is disregard other's opinions. I simply stated some of my experience as STA operator.
    I didnt say you were a newbie, nor did I say you were inexperienced. I think 21 hours is enough to be a decent STA op. However, you expect too much from those 21 hours againsta pilot who has 10 times more than you. Then you call it totally unfair and inbalanced. But in reality, youre being outskilled.

    I asked you about your experience and your KDR vs. jets. Instead you reply: Misunderstanding? Maybe. I'd say it's on purpose.
    Its pretty obvious that my 1:1 STA op KDR in an average round will be outdone by a pilots 30:1 KDR. What separates me from you is that unless I work together with someone, I dont really expect anything more than a 50:50 chance against a decent pilot.

    I think you don't want a fair argument, you just need to be right, no matter what.
    Ive been told that before. Im not around here to "find out the truth". Im here to have an argument, to be entertained.


    If you think I dont know about anything Im talking about, then youre entitled to your "opinion" which is based on BS. Good luck with that.

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    • Batausu

      #137
      Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

      Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
      What kind of proof? I told you Ive got a 3:1 ratio in STA.
      Did you, by any chance, mentioned how much time you have in STA? Hmm, I wonder why…
      You are a slippery one. No proofs. Again, I wonder why… could it be there is something more than it meets the eye?
      Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
      But wait! You probably want to see my pic! … Here you go.
      Oh no! Take it away! I didn't asked for a date!
      Do you think you'll impress anyone with that old picture?
      Hey! Where's your 'joystick'? Could you show us a picture of it, too? Just to prove that you have one, of course… :laugh:
      Ok, take it easy! Just a little 'innocent' fun. It was so hard to resist! :p
      I hope you are enjoying this, too… :)

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      • Chris_Redfield
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 5986

        #138
        Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

        Originally posted by Batausu
        Did you, by any chance, mentioned how much time you have in STA? Hmm, I wonder why…
        You are a slippery one. No proofs. Again, I wonder why… could it be there is something more than it meets the eye?
        Total air defense time - 63 hours. But I know Ive used the Linebacker more than sat in the STA. The time is also probably reduced because I sit by the STA site and jump in when the jet is at terminal distance.

        Oh no! Take it away! I didn't asked for a date!
        Do you think you'll impress anyone with that old picture?
        The picture is to show you that youre once again starting up with conspiracy theories.

        Hey! Where's your 'joystick'? Could you show us a picture of it, too? Just to prove that you have one, of course… :laugh:
        Ok, take it easy! Just a little 'innocent' fun. It was so hard to resist! :p
        I hope you are enjoying this, too… :)
        All good fun.

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        • Batausu

          #139
          Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

          Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
          All good fun.
          I'm glad you like it.
          Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
          youre once again starting up with conspiracy theories.
          Seeing some stats it's pointless anyway.
          You are entertaining too, you know.
          Names can be overlooked, but never the true message of someone's post. If you know how to read, that is…
          So have fun and stick around this forum. I enjoy reading your articles.
          But perhaps more indulgence on your part wouldn't hurt, either… if you don't mind my saying. :)

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          • zymyo

            #140
            Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

            Originally posted by Churrasco
            I challenge you, my retarded friend, to take me down in a J-10 vs F-35B dogfight.

            I suck with jets but I will probably kick your fat *** out of the sky.

            Christ, you are the single dumbest poster ever.
            You're just scared of me you arrogant f*ck, post an IP now I double dare you, I'll own you so much that you'll regret coming back to post in the forums, because idiots like you think you know me when you don't know me at all, and thats when you get stabbed in the back with your own knife.

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            • Chris_Redfield
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 5986

              #141
              Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

              Originally posted by Batausu
              But perhaps more indulgence on your part wouldn't hurt, either… if you don't mind my saying. :)
              I dont feel like limiting myself on forums. I know its just an alternate way of communication and as such requires self restraining and 100% total respect for others, but since most of the time forums are used to argue and to entertain self, then the level of selfrestraining can be small, and insults shouldnt be taken seriosly anyway. Im actually a gentleman "on the other side".

              When people log out, they are not going to remember the way I talk to them anyway, and Ive given a lot more than insults, so I sleep well.

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              • Batausu

                #142
                Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                ... but since most of the time forums are used to argue and to entertain self, then the level of selfrestraining can be small, and insults shouldnt be taken seriosly anyway.
                Ok then. Moron... :p

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                • .Churr.
                  Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 1166

                  #143
                  Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                  Originally posted by simio1337
                  You're just scared of me you arrogant f*ck, post an IP now I double dare you, I'll own you so much that you'll regret coming back to post in the forums, because idiots like you think you know me when you don't know me at all, and thats when you get stabbed in the back with your own knife.
                  Bwahahahahah! And what you are going to do, retard?
                  "Hack" me with your downloaded "hax"?
                  My suspicions are confirmed. You are a retard that thinks **** and talks ****.

                  Congratulations, you are the first in my ignore list.

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                  • Komet.nl

                    #144
                    Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                    Originally posted by Churrasco
                    Bwahahahahah! And what you are going to do, retard?
                    "Hack" me with your downloaded "hax"?
                    My suspicions are confirmed. You are a retard that thinks **** and talks ****.

                    Congratulations, you are the first in my ignore list.
                    He can do things easily though trough Metasploit etc. and other exploits but usually you'll end up messing your computer up :laugh: But in the end you are still a moron simio

                    Argh, Got a cold.
                    Well I think this has to be the thread where people flame most in. You guys are even going off-topic? Or do you guys also use the word "Jet Imbalance" for AA etc? Anyway.. Jets needs to be fixed Dice/EA won't do anything.

                    I really am annoyed they totally do not listen to the comminity as adding things in patches what wasn't even in the change-log. I mean you can't do that! At least tell us what has been changed!

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                    • Covert_Fury

                      #145
                      Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                      1. Jets have the lowest armour out of all vehicals. (Excluding DVP and Jeeps)

                      2. Erm? Land?? Are you actually crazy?? Then all you need to do is SRAW or ERYX the thing and it's dead. Even worse, Snipe the Pilot..

                      3. Nerf the Cannons...Hmm...It takes skill to avoid a jet. Vigulance is the key. If you don't like jets do IO. Each shell, belive it or not is explosive. Thats why you can actually damage tanks slowly. There SHOULD be no explosiveness when a shell is fired. (Each shell has a small explosive Radius)

                      4.The F35-B shouldn't be nerfed up, it's the J10 that should be nerfed.

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                      • .Churr.
                        Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 1166

                        #146
                        Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                        I challenge you to show me your skills in avoiding a jet.
                        I absolutely suck with them, but I still dare you hop in any chopper and survive against me in any jet.

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                        • DesertFalcon
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 4011

                          #147
                          Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                          the only thing that needs to happen is the J-10 needs to have a larger hit box.

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                          • Infamous™

                            #148
                            Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                            Originally posted by Churrasco
                            I challenge you to show me your skills in avoiding a jet.
                            I absolutely suck with them, but I still dare you hop in any chopper and survive against me in any jet.
                            A chopper in in range of two modern jets would be instantly owned, but in the game they still have plenty of time to whore it up on any map. Helo's are to jets what infantry is to the helo. That's why on most servers you find that helo's are hunting the other helo's instead of supporting the players taking flags. Another TV missile seems to be the helo's biggest threat because the helo's aren't the jets priority.

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                            • waaah_wah
                              TEAM BLADE!
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 3656

                              #149
                              Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                              Jets are designed to be effective killing machines. Ofcource you cant take out a jet with your gun. This is how the "food chain" in bf2 looks like:

                              Infantry < Cars < Armor < Chopters < Jets

                              A guy in a car will "always" win agains a guy without (Unless AT kit is involved) A guy in APC or a tank will "always" kill that guy in a car(Unless the APC driver is braindead and that guy in a car shoots in LAV's "sweet spot"). A guy in a chopter will "always" kill that guy in APC/tank(Unless the chopter pilot is a complete moran). A guy in a jet will "always" kill that guy in a chopter(Again unless the guy in a jet slowes down so he can get TVed). The only real counter to jets are other jets, as a skilled pilot will evade AA pretty easily. But thats again coz most ppl are just bitching about jets being "overpowered" and not trying to take them down. If you put a guy near (not IN it coz then theyss die) every AA site on a map, a jet will have some serious problems with killing stuff. I think that jets are just fine the way they are (J10 might need a little adjustement but whatever). But here are a couple of things EA/Dice could do to improve balance:

                              -Slightly longer reload times
                              -Longer repair times, so ppl would have to land or fly really really slow to repair
                              -Making static AA missiles a little more powerful. Not as powerfull as ATA missiles, but more powerful than they are now.
                              -Giving chopters a pair of ATA missiles.

                              PS: Static AA isnt ment to be uber effective jet killing machine. It just there to stop jets from completely dominating the game

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                              • Darth_Brandis

                                #150
                                Re: *JET* imbalance... This needs seriously to be fixed

                                -Slightly longer reload times
                                -Longer repair times, so ppl would have to land or fly really really slow to repair
                                -Making static AA missiles a little more powerful. Not as powerfull as ATA missiles, but more powerful than they are now.
                                -Giving chopters a pair of ATA missiles.

                                PS: Static AA isnt ment to be uber effective jet killing machine. It just there to stop jets from completely dominating the game[/QUOTE]

                                I agree with you on this with the chopping having ata missiles.
                                But i think they should have some sort of range on them.

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