To All Jihad-Jeepers

[S17-JestersHK]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

Is Jihad a fact of life in BF2 = Yes unless you play in a server where it is not allowed

Is Jihad a cheap but effective tactic = Yes IMO if you
jihad an entire round it gets a little old.

Is Jihad acceptable in certain circumstances = Yes. I have used this tactic after being pounded by 2 tanks 1 APC and 1 AA vehicle, and 2 Apaches on Ghosttown. 6 kills by driving into the middle of them and we finally got out to capture a base.

All the whining isn't going to change a thing. I will say this thread has been a very amusing read for myself. It has changed my opinion on a few select people who I used to have alot of respect for their opinions. Bottom line we all paid good money for this game. We are allowed to play it however we want to to a certain extent (ie. Cheating). One comment that did stick out in my mind was about ruining someones gameplay by Jihading them. What about the poor saps who die at the spawn before they could even move, or the guys who are on the carrier being raped by the J-10's. I'm sure there gameplay was being just as ruined. But hey what do I know, I'm just a ground pounder, and an average one at that. Life's too short to get bent over a video game. It's even shorter when it comes to arguing over the internet. Thanks for the read though, it made me laugh on an otherwise boring day at work.
S17-JestersHK

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

I really see where PW is coming from. I wouldnt see him posting a negative opinion about Jihaad Jeeping is a jeep would be blown up by a tankshell every time it actually hit it. A big part of all jeep kills would have never been happening if jeeps werent immune against head on projectile use. This is exploiting a certain anomaly of the game, whether intentional or unintentional, its still exploiting.

On the other hand, armor has a huge impact on the ground, and on maps where there are no jets and choppers, where good tankdrivers literally own, a jihad jeep can just about be the only truly effective counter.

[Desertfox]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

I would much rather just own them in the helicopter Theres nothing better then seeing 4 pieces of armour at a flag. Having your gunner take out 2 with TV's then moving in with the rockets clearing out the flag :)

[Jumintiger]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

I usually don't do it unless I'm just looking for a laugh, the only really time I get serious and go for it is when someone (e.g. Bushviper) is being a total armor whore and I just feel like he should get his points the hard/easy way on foot, after rounds and rounds in armor. So (it's mostly on warlord) I just camp his precious tank with an explosive ATV.

[mwillin0000]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

i always hated it, but then one day i got pissed and decided to do it myself and i have been ever since(not compulsively). every once in a while when tanks are camping and such you have to go for it, in my opinion. and other days when i cant seem to land one shot on anybody i do it.

[Desertfox]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

The only reason people complain about nerfing and certain guns, is because they get killed with it.

[Batausu]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

A big part of all jeep kills would have never been happening if jeeps weren’t immune against head on projectile use. This is exploiting a certain anomaly of the game, whether intentional or unintentional, it’s still exploiting.

Just a little piece of information, if someone is interested:
I’ve noticed that if you aim in front of a moving vehicle coming at you, it actually hits most of the time. If you aim directly at the vehicle, the round goes behind it somehow, so you need to make a little correction when aiming. You must shoot at the ground right in front of that vehicle and instead of hitting the ground, it blows the vehicle up!
Did someone else notice it, too?
PS:
My fellow jihad jeepers, please forgive me for revealing the sacred secret that will leed to the destruction of our guild!
(I try to use C4 on myself and I fail. Damn bugs!)

[RavenRealms]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

Before IO mode was released, i used to put C4 on my ATV all the time.

It's a bit pathetic that a tank can 'magically' be repaired by a supply crate. Thought that was the ENGINEERS job?

Anyway, i only play IO now so there's no need for me to make car bombs anymore.

[vesuvan]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

Wow, what fun reading all these arguments. All that can be said has been said already. Well, except for this suggestion.... MAKE A "VEHICLE EXPLOSIVES SPECIALIST" BADGE! (politically correct). Let's just encourage jihad carbombing alltogether! Not.

P.S.-It does take some skill to carbomb. You can't simply go straight at an enemy (especially on maps where players are well aware of them) and expect to succeed most of the time. A skilled carbomber sometimes needs to hide, plan an attack, find the best target, adapt to countermeasures, etc... just like every other aspect of the game. There is some strategy to this method of attack.

If you are a tankwhore, I suggest taking on the role of jihadist carbomber to better understand their methods. "Know thy enemy!" It has helped me.

[Sheeple Police]

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So, let me get this straight.

3 armor pieces with engineers in them + supply crates continuously raping a base, not exploiting. Yes because it is easy to get 4 AT's to fire simultaneouly at a tank and hit it, but it is hard for a tanker to just sit there and be repaired by his two mates and the supply box without any of them taking the risk of getting out of the armor.

Taking a jeep that is made of glass, driving it behind the tank with 3 pieces of C4 attached to it, then running away and detonating, exploiting.

I don't get it.

[RavenRealms]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

You can't simply go straight at an enemy (especially on maps where players are well aware of them) and expect to succeed most of the time. A skilled carbomber sometimes needs to hide, plan an attack, find the best target, adapt to countermeasures, etc... just like every other aspect of the game. There is some strategy to this method of attack.

I used to pack the ATV full of C4, then drive to a narrow alley to wait for a tank driving past, then head out to take the kill.

[Sike]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

i cant see the pic.

but i love drivin around jalalabad in the dpv just blowing tansk to hell and flating peeps

[Shepherd007]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

I jihad jeep mainly for defensive purposes, but will occasionally have a target in mind. I mainly throw the C4 on a jeep so that if I turn a corner and a tank is sitting there, I won't die alone.

Jihad jeeping is a legitimate tactic as long as it's not overused. I will agree however, that the hitboxes on the jeeps need to be corrected and that the C4 shouldn't auto detonate upon impact, as these are the primary reasons why jihading is so efficient. I can't count how many times I've had an AT round or tank round fly through a buggy. That's why I now aim for the ground in front of them to at least knock them off course in case I miss.

So, let me get this straight.

3 armor pieces with engineers in them + supply crates continuously raping a base, not exploiting. Yes because it is easy to get 4 AT's to fire simultaneouly at a tank and hit it, but it is hard for a tanker to just sit there and be repaired by his two mates and the supply box without any of them taking the risk of getting out of the armor.

Taking a jeep that is made of glass, driving it behind the tank with 3 pieces of C4 attached to it, then running away and detonating, exploiting.

I don't get it.

You're equating an AT unit to a tank, and this is what PW's argument is against: Teamwork and force multiplication. Armor is a force multiplier, so 3 armor pieces should be more powerful than 4 infantry. The 3 tank drivers and 1 commander (by your example) are working together for a common goal and should (through teamwork and the force multipliers) be better than an equal, opposing amount of players with no force multiplication.

The way to attack said situation is to artillery the area (commander, +1 unit to AT force) to destroy the crates, bomb the tanks with an SU-34/F15 (+1 to AT force in addition to the force multiplier the planes provide) or call in aid of a tank on your own team, then mop up with your AT team.

I do agree with you that the engy's should have to get out of their tanks to repair.

[Mr.Jones]

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It's only "illegal" if the server rules says you can't.

As for the cake...meh.

Wow, talk about an genvea convention issue. This is war and whatever it takes to destroy your enemy and capture the flags- so be it. Get off your tear filled chair and put away soaked tissues and get up and fight. It may be a good idea to remove your diaper in the battlefield so I don't just come after you while you are sucking on your thumb and draging your little favorite blanky in the dirt, hide and be scared, be very scared.............hey.....I....got.....some candy.....want some.......good...boy...:ar15: :dead: That is how winners are handled on the battlefield.

[Tiberiansun292]

Re: To All Jihad-Jeepers

You can have your cake, and shove it down your throat...I hate jihad jeepers. I thought they were bad in Strike at Karkand, then I went to Road to Jalalabad. :|:


EDIT: The funny this is, its againts ROE to put C4 on a moving vehicle with intentions of jihah jeeping.

who puts c4 on a jeep . TANK AND APC FTW.