PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

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  • Rocker45

    #31
    Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

    Love the changes and agree heavily with all of them. I would only ADD one additional change.

    5) Replace medic gun with MP5/its variants for unlocks. Right now medics double as assault troops, they need to become more specialized. I'll be the first to stand up as a medic whore who recognizes the overpowered nature of the class.


    Also, I would make one comment about your #4. If we're trying to balance the game for the top pilots, then yes I would completely agree. Unfortunately, this would cause most intermediate and lower skilled pilots to not be able to ever shoot down other planes. Most low skill pilots depend on the missiles alone to shoot down other planes--and poor shots at best. (to be honest, I've only in the last month developed the technique to consistently shoot down J10's)

    Unfortunately, I do not have a good suggestion to balance the A2A in the abscense of your proposed solution. The only right answer is to have Dice/EA fix the J10 hit box so missiles don't randomly miss. I can deal with flying a plane that has less manuverability at low altitiude, but hate game bugs like the J10/F18 "missile shield".

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    • [=FAV=]kakaroto_

      #32
      Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

      Something that wasnt mention in the first post is the support guns, those guns should be feared by all, but the truth is that not even point blank those guns are close to what they r intended in real life, ( I know this isnt real life). A player using the support kit, prone on one end of a street most make the enemy think before venturing in that street, not like look a support an easy kill,

      And the MG36 its a joke, its the same base weapon as the G36E, G36C, and it doesnt come close to the accuracy of those guns, not even close.

      This is something that most be fixed if theres ever a new patch

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      • imported_Gue

        #33
        Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

        The medic doesn't need a weaker gun imo. If you're in a good squad with a medic, you can be as good as him. The real problem lies in the point system. The other classes just don't come close in a round to the medic. But yeah there are too many skilless players out there which gives the medic too much work to do.

        Also with the prone fest going on there's too much reviving instead of falling back behind cover and get healed. Don't know about you all, but I think it doesn't make sense that only medic and support can earn excessive teamwork points. So this results in too much medics running around which make squads way too tiresome to fight against. I always thought that the rookies start with medic to gain a lot of points and the experienced players start playing other classes.
        It's just pathetic too watch a group move up with reviving each other endlessly. Only fun thing is when you can catch that defendless medic and get 2 kills.

        The support gun atm is rather a joke with the insta prone going on. Even if you're set up in prone position, you don't have upper hand with everybody going prone as soon as they spot target. Add to that the hitboxes that are messed up, it's just gash. You need to shoot at the waist to kill a proner with a headshot. Also the rolling is absolutly horrible where you see them shoot you while still rolling. This gone worse with the delay they brought in proning and such. Bottom line is they made really bad changes in patches that are just unforgivable.

        They added alot of variables in this game which they couldn't cope with. The game is miserably balanced but I still love it. Easy to see this game had lot of potential which they they didn't took advantage of.
        Ah well too bad, on to the next game for me anyway. I've played this one enough. :)

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        • imported_Nefarious
          Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 1607

          #34
          Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

          Sooooo......I guess PlaneWhore won the bet? He got 100-200 points in 10-15 minutes?

          if so post a vid

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          • Blades

            #35
            Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

            For planes: F35 needs 15 seconds of afterburner, and the missles have to be 1.12 or 1.2, or 1.4 with hitbox fix.

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            • WolfAlmighty
              Artillery Magnet
              • Jan 2007
              • 2113

              #36
              Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

              Shouldn't the MiG therefore have its hitbox fixed as well? That thing's almost as bad as the F35, in my (admittely limited) experience. They should all have the same hitboxes as the F18 IMO - not impossible to hit if you're able to hold the lock long enough, but not so easy to hit that even a passing seagull can shoot it out of the sky, either.

              Otherwise, great suggestions, PW. The bouncing t00bnades have irritated me many times (boucing off of a Vodnik or speeding FAV, anyone?). Then again the arming distance might cause that same issue only instead of it bouncing it just ends up as a dud. Meh, I doubt we'll get a 1.5 patch anyway. :hmm:

              ~Wolfgang

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              • imported_ojmcduffie

                #37
                Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                a 1.5 patch....r u kidding me? Your smoking too much "green" my friend. Dice/EA are too busy with 2142, we're all a lost cause.

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                • imported_Gue

                  #38
                  Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                  They are making a next patch. If you actually stopped making assumptions and knew what you're talking about. They said they are going to continue support after bf2142. People have been saying there won't be patches anymore since 1.3. It's getting old, plus the booster pack and bf2142 focus, don't care anymore about BF2 thingy.

                  However I don't care anymore what new patches will bring. They turned in a bad path long time ago. Perhaps I will be pleasantly surprised that way.
                  They've messed around with the game too much, it has made them look incompetent. Perhaps we can't all have what we want, but I know good enough that the game isn't right atm.

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                  • t_c

                    #39
                    Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                    The beta testing was a load of bs, so many suggestions and reports were given to DICE canda and they provided **** all with the 1.4 patch.

                    If there's any chance of a 1.5 patch, this is what I think should be added

                    1) destructible claymores
                    2) ability to pick up claymores/c4 with respective class (they were supposed to introduce this ages ago with one of the patches... anyone remember ?!?!?)
                    3) different color's/symbols indiciating claymore/c4/mine
                    4) 1 resupply pack = 1 grenade
                    5) I remember someone suggested that the claymore should have a moving arrow indicating which way its facing (friendly claymore that is)
                    6) J10 issue (I dont fly much, but a alot of people always bring it up.. so meh)

                    Thats about it, I dont whine and cry like most people when I get killed but im sure the above suggestions would be beneficial to everyone if they were to be implemented in game.

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                    • mondo66

                      #40
                      Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                      Fine, make these changes. All air assets have limited fuel. Repair, rearm, and fuel must be done after landing and stationary. No reason they should not be affected by a change in resupply for ground pounders.

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                      • zuiquan1
                        Battleship Mod
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1318

                        #41
                        Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                        Originally posted by ojmcduffie
                        a 1.5 patch....r u kidding me? Your smoking too much "green" my friend. Dice/EA are too busy with 2142, we're all a lost cause.
                        just wow......dont spout off BS unless you know that the BS your spouting off is actually correct

                        Dice have said numerous times that the support for BF2 will continue, they arent just going to throw it in the trash and move on......

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                        • b` m3ow

                          #42
                          Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch


                          3) n00b tube.
                          Goal: To make it so n00b tubers can no longer fire the grenade launcher at point blank range effectively.

                          Why oh why DICE did you change this back in 1.4? We know you changed it (as one of your expansive list of undocumented changes) so fess up already. The n00b tube has made a comeback as unskilled players can yet again fire it point blank at their feet for an easy unskilled kill. Why bother with a difficult to use rifle when a tube is a 1 shot kill and is extremely easy to aim? I recently got revived during a round of Sharqi and ended up with a different kit (F2000) and a full compliment of tube grenades. Four point blank tube grenades later I had four ridiculous easy kills that I would've otherwise have had to aim for with a rifle. But I empathize with the plight of the underpowered and otherwise generic assault kit and I really do believe DICE does need to do something to improve them but NOT by boosting that annoying tube again.

                          As with most of my suggestions this fix is ridiculously simple:

                          a) Implement a minimum arming distance on the tube before the grenade explodes. How hard is this to implement DICE? We don't need any of this buggy bouncing tube crap... just make it so if you fire that thing at your feet it doesn't explode. Problem solved.
                          Can I shoot you? I really hate you for that, go kill ur self.. dont like the n00b blaster, leave the server. That would be dumb for a aiming distance, beucase what if the tank is 1m away from u? then wut u gonna do? Run back to get a shot, and then get ur team killed..?..

                          Just stop talking and die

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                          • EyeofG
                            Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1193

                            #43
                            Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                            Originally posted by Combat-Quokka
                            Just leave the game alone.
                            I aguee
                            Let's not make any more patches for the Game. Let the Game Die the way nature intenned it to. No more patches

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                            • t_c

                              #44
                              Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                              Originally posted by Eye_of_god
                              I aguee
                              Let's not make any more patches for the Game. Let the Game Die the way nature intenned it to. No more patches
                              Then perhaps you should remove your sig eye of god... :|:

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                              • Holle

                                #45
                                Re: PlaneWhore's top 4 BF2 changes that need to be in the 1.5 patch

                                Originally posted by Eye_of_god
                                I aguee
                                Let's not make any more patches for the Game. Let the Game Die the way nature intenned it to. No more patches

                                Patchs to fix bugs = Good.

                                Patchs cause people are stupid and run up the middle of Karkand, at major choke point and die by hail of nads = stupid.

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