Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

[Turnip]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Meh I still think those infantry that arent just hiding behind vehicles in a vanilla server still deserve more points anyways, better than some guy camping in a tank getting a gold every round.

Anyways I think in vanilla medics get more points than people like anti tank. So is it already imbalanced?

[Lazza66]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Meh I still think those infantry that arent just hiding behind vehicles in a vanilla server still deserve more points anyways, better than some guy camping in a tank getting a gold every round.

Anyways I think in vanilla medics get more points than people like anti tank. So is it already imbalanced?

Lol, are you suggesting using an APC on Zatar is just cowardice and that it's "manly" to spend 90% of your time walking between control points?

Again your post seems driven by the fact that Karkand has vehicles which interrupt the stats whoring. Thats the single simple truth and it's inescapable no matter how you attempt to dress it up.

Yes Medics get more points than AT in vanilla, and it's already imbalanced. I don't see how magnifying the problem by introducing IO can in any way be seen as a fix for that.

Your comments remind me of a time I joined a Karkand 24/7. I noticed all our (USMC) armour parked up at our main. Hell, whos countering their armour, and with what I thought? Checking the kit choices I couldn't see any AT in any squad. Heck I thought, better get our tank up front, the boys will be getting pwned. But hello no enemy armour anywhere, after laying out a few enemy I notice teammates suiciding on me and punishing. Then up comes a kick vote. WTF I thought, and disconnected (too tardy for me).

All makes so much more sense now, I interrupted a stats padding session. So well understood were the rules that nothing needed to be said.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

No word from DICE in the 2 threads regarding the new official stats padding mode known as "Infantry Only".

How about your thoughts DICE?
Can you explain why IO mode was okayed given the obvious potential for stat padding abuse?

Obvious reasons really.

Who would want to moderate such a complicated system which si so easy to pass. Its better to legalize it in some forms and forget about it. Focus the attention on glitchers and gameplay abusers. I dont judge DICE for this move, they had to do it at some point anyway. I judge the players who bring up BS excuses to justify themselves.

[Turnip]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Lol, are you suggesting using an APC on Zatar is just cowardice and that it's "manly" to spend 90% of your time walking between control points?

Again your post seems driven by the fact that Karkand has vehicles which interrupt the stats whoring. Thats the single simple truth and it's inescapable no matter how you attempt to dress it up.

Yes Medics get more points than AT in vanilla, and it's already imbalanced. I don't see how magnifying the problem by introducing IO can in any way be seen as a fix for that.

Your comments remind me of a time I joined a Karkand 24/7. I noticed all our (USMC) armour parked up at our main. Hell, whos countering their armour, and with what I thought? Checking the kit choices I couldn't see any AT in any squad. Heck I thought, better get our tank up front, the boys will be getting pwned. But hello no enemy armour anywhere, after laying out a few enemy I notice teammates suiciding on me and punishing. Then up comes a kick vote. WTF I thought, and disconnected (too tardy for me).

All makes so much more sense now, I interrupted a stats padding session. So well understood were the rules that nothing needed to be said.

That or your interrupting a good firefight, I doubt he just suicided on you because he wanted more stats, thats asinine. Why wouldnt he just grab the tank and go farm points for himself?

[Lazza66]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

That or your interrupting a good firefight, I doubt he just suicided on you because he wanted more stats, thats asinine. Why wouldnt he just grab the tank and go farm points for himself?

You've missed the point. When you suicide on a tank the driver gets a tk.
This was deliberate with the intent to punish, then repeat until I was kicked.

Hence the kick vote, why suicide unnecessarily when when the other padders in full collaboration will vote yes to the kick vote.

The suicides / tk's with their punishes, followed by the kick vote had one purpose only, to remove the disruptive tank from the stats padding session.

Interestingly I've never had anything like this happen when Karkand comes up as part of a normal server map rotation. Why you might ask? Well I would suggest that's because the full rotation players are there for the gaming, and aren't intersted in solely maximising the spm and point whoring the map like the 24/7 Karkand players do. Just plain old play hard, and go for the win.

It goes without saying I've never joined a 24/7 Karkand (Stats padding) server since, I doubt I ever will.

[wolfi]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

I love the inf only mode.
I hope they include it in BF2142..

[Teh_Spambot]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

On the subject of stat padding, I joined a server called PREDATOR HELL something. Nothing about knives or pistols in the name, but when i got in it became quickly apparent.

What was this horrid place like? Well full of majors and colonels, ones even less skilful than the ones tank whoring karkand 24/7. Of course, being stat padders, they are absolutely pathetic, and I generally killed about 2 each clip, dodging back to reload. Really is sad to see what stats do to people.... reminds me of the losers who concern themselves with getting thousands of posts for so called "respect" online....

Beyond a certain rank, a person loses my respect. They either play 6 hours a day, stat pad, tank whore, or all of the above, to get that rank. I know this because I know people who play what seems to me to be all of the time, yet they only play 2 hours a day and are about SGTMjr. Needless to say, imagine the pasty faced nerds who are the 4 hour a day losers.

I laughed when I saw that 2142 video with the "BF2 community". If being associated with BF2 means that, id rather not.


Speak no more of this damned counterstrike. If you think it has a better engine and netcode, go play the damned game and make the BF2 community a better place with your absence.

And no, it isnt the worst idea ever. The worst idea ever is BF2142...

Its an option. Yes, we don't want every server on 24 7 karkand stat pad whore mania.

But it will not be as bad without the captains and colonels tank whoring, that is for sure.

[-X$B-Trivium]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

infantry mode is fine, i just got done playing an infantry only game with 40 people in road to jalalabad and it was intense..just a lot more nade spammers but besides that it's a OK

[UnknownSoldier]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

The title of this thread says it all. I just played IO mode on Road to Jalalabad--it was <i>horrible</i>. The map isn't very good to begin with, and with no vehicles for the US team to get past that absurdly huge open area approaching the city, it basically devolves to an instant purple heart for everyone on the US team. It's like being US on Wake Island but <i>worse</i>. At least on Wake you didn't have to put up with being revived and rekilled over and over and over and over and over. I can't believe these fools thought this would be a good idea. And what <b>really</b> pisses me off is that they spent so much bloody time dicking around with this stupid IO mode instead of fixing the single biggest balance issue in the game since they nerfed the blackhawk--the F-35B. People have been pouring out oodles of ideas on how to fix this problem over the past few months (any number of which would have taken about 2 mins to implement), yet instead of listening to the community, they foist this stupid IO crap on us.

There was a time when I honestly thought I might never stop playing BF2 because it was so much fun. Now, I can safely say that I <i>am</i> going to stop playing--right now, because of this pathetic excuse for a patch. If you want good infantry fights, then play POE. That's where I'll be from now on...

Dice/EA: If you guys are going to continue to treat your customers as poorly as you treat your own employees, then you might as well start updating your resumes now. BF2142 looks like it would be a fun game, but if you think I'm gonna spend money on it after this BS, you're out of your f***ing mind.

[Jeffro420]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Wow...what a waste of typing and reading... If you dont like infantry only...DONT PLAY IT... Plenty of regular servers out there to play on. To write that whole page of crap over a gametype you dont like is just mind boggling to me. This gametype came from the communities of TWL and CAL, which is where the best teams/squads in the world play. I have much more fun playing with 5 or 6 friends as a squad rather than playing by myself in a jet or armor. Infantry only is NOT for lonewolfs. I do agree...Jalalabad is a poor infanty map. It would be better if the map was contained to the city.

[imported_Recon3029]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

I enjoy playing the Knife Only Ranked Servers as well as the knife and pistol only Ranked servers. More kills and alot more points if you are playing as supply and medic. Infantry Only would be excellent and prevent alot of the idiots who jump into tanks and APC's to gun down people who arent allowed to use explosives (ie. AT MINES, C4) to defend themselves.

[SyNn3R]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

To those window lickers out there that always have some kind of come back like... "if you don't like it.... don't play it".

Where was this attitude when dip****s like you started complaining about :

C4 tossing
Blackhawk whores
M203 / GP-30
bunny hopping
dolphin diving
ect..ect...ect...
Where was that attitude then? you certainly didn't leave... so STFU.

And on a closing note.. IO mode is just as bad as an Knife/Pistol server.
You're pretty much saying... be a medic, don't worry about vehicles, and get lots of points!
So if K/P servers are so 'against the ROE' why is it that we now have a legitimate side option? hmm.. same thing, only... you can use guns.
And it's not even the fact that you support this but the fact that you're soooo against k/p servers at the same time.
What a bunch of hypocritical forum whores you are.

[Red Devil]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

Be nice if you could make a Ranked Sniper-only option for nice big maps like Zatar Wetlands-64 or Dragon Valley-64.

[Lt.Stink]

Re: Infantry only mode, worst idea ever.

there's no way I can read 15 pages of posts... but after skimming, i think IO is definitely NOT the worse idea ever. Someone earlier said something like "just go play Counter Strike". first off, yes, cs has no vehicles. but, NO, cs cannot pull off the vastness that BF maps can offer. Just try throwing a nade countless walls in dust or dust2. Be sure to get out of the way cause they'll most likely majically bounce off the thin air back onto you. cs is not the same...period. different scales, i could go on and on and on...

I do think DICE screwed the pooch slightly in not letting IO servers to run, say.... 64 players on a 32 player size map. Imagine fighing with so many people in such a condensed area. Take it further and allow 64 on a 16 player map with IO! that would be crazy!

If you happen to play IO with a 64 player map then I do agree, it can get lame quick. Although, I have noticed most of the lameness comes from the excessive sniping. It got out of control back in the beta at times. You couldn't make it 15 ft. w/o getting nabbed.

Anyway. I think IO's cool for the most part. If played on smaller maps it can a good change from the "norm" bf2.

[AaronKylie]

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