TBF2 forum member caught cheating? You decide...

[Ghilleman]

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I agree with wargimp. He seems to function to well like awell-oiled machine. In that first set of vids (the slw-mo with the engy) it seems POSSIBLE (but not likely) that the other guy shooting at him could have spotted him, and PheNom aimed using that info. But i agree with the majority here, thats just to suspicious a video.

[deadman2312]

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Someone on my team Q-Spotted him. If I was cheating I would have "Tracked" him much sooner. If you notice I turn like a second before he came over the hill after I saw someone spot him and he flashed on my minimap.

As for spamming shots across to the mosque steps, I do it all the time it where ppl just stand a lot of times.

Sorry dude, but i have a few things to add here.....

I was in shock when i saw this thread, there were a few stages of shock though.....

First was to see the cyphershogun name. because i remember playing on some Wake server a while back, getting blazed by you in a J-10, over, and over with your cannons, might i add while i was infantry, not a vehicle. I was in a squad, with one other pubber type guy. he was towards the first north base, and i was farther towards shore, as a sniper, laying in the fecking grass . you drilled me with your cannons, so i respawn, move to the other side, you drill me again, so i move farther back towards the base, you drill me again. the third time i was wondering wtf? then you come back yet again on a return from the carrier, and kill my squad mate who is running down the side of the road about 100 yards in front of me, and then yes, me again. you werent flying low...i watched you, your nose DOVE directly at us EVERY time, it seemed almost godly. But you were simply wasting everything, and i left because i suspected you myself of cheating, but who am i?

I was twice as shocked because i have seen your name around here before......

Anyways to your reply about the guy behind the hill, that you slayed. UAV is fairly accurate, you can pinpoint where someone is on a map for sure. BUT, you follow that guys left and right movements PERFECTLY, TO A PINPOINT,while he is obviously out of your view,that Sir....is NOT a feature that UAV provides......:cry:

[[GU]LIZARD{GEN}]

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I'm not inclined to call people a cheater right off the bat because I've experienced more than my fair share of unfair and unjustified accusations with subsequent bans for cheating. In fact at one point I was banned off well over 30 of the most popular 64 player servers in the game for "cheating". So believe me when I say I don't want call someone a cheater unless I'm close to being positive.

I've encountered very few of these people in the hundreds of hours I've played, and all of my encounters with people I'd suspect as cheating have been very similar to what you see phen0m doing in the video such as accurately and consistently shooting me and other players through the fog (the vehicle mounted MG seem to very popular for this), or tracking other players while they're in building, behind fences, ect.

Watching the videos though leaves little doubt in my mind that phen0m is cheating on at least some basic level. I'd suspect at the very least a basic no fog hack of some kind but watching him track that player around the hill leads me to believe that some other cheat might be involved. That isn't to say phen0m can't clear his name though.

My challenge to phen0m, within the next couple days (time frame is important). Use FRAPs and capture a whole round of you playing exactly like you were in the video on the Mashtuur. Show us how you accurately shoot players through fog without cheats, and then I'm sure we'll all believe you. I released similar videos of me piloting and the cheating accusations pointed towards me quickly vanished, and I imagine a similar video would have the same effect for you. Can't hide cheats through a FRAPs video, and if you do disable them and record I doubt you'll be doing any fog shooting or even manage a very good score.

Of course, I'll also take the admission of no video on your part to be more evidence that you are in fact using cheats of some kind.

The famous planewhore post. I know I've seen all of your videos planewhore. Your an excellent plane pilot, and a helo whore like myself worst nightmare. I can only imagine your either a pilot in the Air Force, or a pilot in real life some how, that or you've played a ton of flight simulators just by the way you play. Thrusting and constantly keeping your eye out for moving targets and even killing targets that are empty.

Even in plane whore's video though he did no where near what i've seen some pilots do with the machine guns on the front of their planes. Its easy to take a few kills when theirs a UAV, or even someone spotting that lonewolf crossin oman to find a good view to snipe from. How about a server where its 13 people total gulf of oman 32 man version, and a pilot who sucks and continues to die over and over. Yet is capable of killing you on the ground no matter where you are, and only coming after you the entire map. I've seen this its happend to me before. Where a guy called "[NW] oddcrap" would come out of the air from 400 feet shooting at my exact location with no commander being present on the opposing team.
So yeah I like this challenge lets see a fraps video of you playing a round of mastuur and doing the same exact thing. That'd be the ultimate proof. You've been called out by the community and been accused of something you claim to never have done. Prove it. Since you've got 600 kills in the vodnik though I don't see exactly how you can be 'experienced' with those hot spots, if they even are.

[GSG9xSNIPER]

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Reminds me of the Sen. Randall "DUKE" Cunningham stated " I'm innocent of all charges".. Then he cried like a baby when they had hard evidence and found guilty.

[Online1-0]

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Do names pop up at distances, such as over 500 meters, when you hold your sight on them? Anybody know how long this shot was?

Even if the target's name could pop up at this distance, don't you have to hold your sight on the target for a little while b4 it pops up? As was previously stated, in the video of the vod shooting the soldier on the other side of the mosque, this target was continuously moving, how could he have held the sight on him without seeing him in the first place?

[TheHairyYeti]

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So if I catch a guy robbing a store on video, and he says he didn't do it, I'll just take him for his word.

No, I meant that I see this video and there is no decisive evidence. You don't actually see the aimbot, until I see it then I will think he is a cheater.

[imported_Wreck]

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No, I meant that I see this video and there is no decisive evidence. You don't actually see the aimbot, until I see it then I will think he is a cheater.

Okay so you don't just need video proof of the robbery, you need the guy to drop his ID and his grandmama to identify him.

[GSG9xSNIPER]

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No, I meant that I see this video and there is no decisive evidence. You don't actually see the aimbot, until I see it then I will think he is a cheater.

You don't need decisive evidence, There is circumstantial evidence. You don't need a body to have a murder trial.

[troybob]

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First was to see the cyphershogun name. because i remember playing on some Wake server a while back, getting blazed by you in a J-10, over, and over with your cannons, might i add while i was infantry, not a vehicle. I was in a squad, with one other pubber type guy. he was towards the first north base, and i was farther towards shore, as a sniper, laying in the fecking grass . you drilled me with your cannons, so i respawn, move to the other side, you drill me again, so i move farther back towards the base, you drill me again. the third time i was wondering wtf? then you come back yet again on a return from the carrier, and kill my squad mate who is running down the side of the road about 100 yards in front of me, and then yes, me again. you werent flying low...i watched you, your nose DOVE directly at us EVERY time, it seemed almost godly. But you were simply wasting everything, and i left because i suspected you myself of cheating, but who am i?
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thats odd - how do you pick out a sniper from a jet every time without a UAV?

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

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I'm not inclined to call people a cheater right off the bat because I've experienced more than my fair share of unfair and unjustified accusations with subsequent bans for cheating. In fact at one point I was banned off well over 30 of the most popular 64 player servers in the game for "cheating". So believe me when I say I don't want call someone a cheater unless I'm close to being positive.

I've encountered very few of these people in the hundreds of hours I've played, and all of my encounters with people I'd suspect as cheating have been very similar to what you see phen0m doing in the video such as accurately and consistently shooting me and other players through the fog (the vehicle mounted MG seem to very popular for this), or tracking other players while they're in building, behind fences, ect.

Watching the videos though leaves little doubt in my mind that phen0m is cheating on at least some basic level. I'd suspect at the very least a basic no fog hack of some kind but watching him track that player around the hill leads me to believe that some other cheat might be involved. That isn't to say phen0m can't clear his name though.

My challenge to phen0m, within the next couple days (time frame is important). Use FRAPs and capture a whole round of you playing exactly like you were in the video on the Mashtuur. Show us how you accurately shoot players through fog without cheats, and then I'm sure we'll all believe you. I released similar videos of me piloting and the cheating accusations pointed towards me quickly vanished, and I imagine a similar video would have the same effect for you. Can't hide cheats through a FRAPs video, and if you do disable them and record I doubt you'll be doing any fog shooting or even manage a very good score.

Of course, I'll also take the admission of no video on your part to be more evidence that you are in fact using cheats of some kind.

I haven't seen you on for a while

We should planewhore it up again sometime. lol

[GSG9xSNIPER]

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thats odd - how do you pick out a sniper from a jet every time without a UAV?

Enemy Tag Hack would let you see all enemies on the ground of you were in a plane.There are videos of this kinda thing showing enemies on radar and on main screen

[troybob]

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My challenge to phen0m, within the next couple days (time frame is important). Use FRAPs and capture a whole round of you playing exactly like you were in the video on the Mashtuur. Show us how you accurately shoot players through fog without cheats, and then I'm sure we'll all believe you. I released similar videos of me piloting and the cheating accusations pointed towards me quickly vanished, and I imagine a similar video would have the same effect for you. Can't hide cheats through a FRAPs video, and if you do disable them and record I doubt you'll be doing any fog shooting or even manage a very good score.

he'll find that easy. turn the cheats off, then take the fraps video, submit it, say we're all dumb, then turn the cheats back on.

[BIFF EXPLODER]

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i say we get some pitchforks and our torches and form an angry mob to hunt him down and search his computer for hacksm thats the only way to be sure :p

oh btw troybob planewhore is right, if he can do it without cheats then it proves it, because if he could do it without cheats then why would he use them?

[phen0m]

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To the people who are thinking straight and saying that is not evidence of cheating I appreciate it. To these idiots who come on here and make up the MOST BS Stories I have ever seen about me picking them off anywhere on a map at anytime, go F yourself. You are probably some kid who got owned and got ****ed.

Obviously I cant do anything to prove the nay sayers wrong although when I return from my vacation I think i am going to open up random BR videos and cut/paste 2-3 min of good shots by a particular player and come on here and say "OMG, what a cheator, no way could he have known that guy was there!"

I have played bf42, DC, bfv, and now bf2. Never cheated once, don't need to. I play a defensive game where others go out and run to cap flags and such, I stay behind and make a strongpoint and kill those who try to cap my flags. I would love to hear from someone from PB/EA/Dice. if they reset me oh well I will make a new account and play on it. I am not playing for stats I am playing for fun, I have the most fun in a plane and am good in it so what.

In closing, I can't sway your opinion if you think I cheat, but look at these videos with a shadow of doubt from a clan who obviously is out to get me and again cut 2 min of videos from 40-50 minutes of video.

P.S. Troy Bob you come in here all ****y because I called you an idiot for thinking the planes have auto aim in the cannons and I stand by that, you are an idiot and proved it again in this thread.

[Chris_Redfield]

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ROFL. Isnt good enough, buddy. Try again with FRAPS, please.

Ive played SWAT4 for more than a year now. That game requires pinpoint accuracy and accurate shots at distance, great skills at close range and intelligent approach to the game, and Im damn good at the game. However, it has given me squat **** when it comes to BF2. So please, spare me with the "history" lesson. Youve given a chance, use FRAPS, go ahead.