Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

[motorboatJones]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

I've actually thought about something simular to this.
But more along the lines of putting a 3 second delay on all vehicle actions, including getting in and out of 'em. 3 seconds isn't enough to make changing positions worthless, but is enough to adress some *issues*.

Extra fallout would be making ATers a hella lot more happy since drivers in burning tanks wouldn't be able to bail out 'n run for it as easily.

On the other hand, it would put a dent in one of my favorite activities... activly hunting attack choppers with a buggy while solo.

IMHO, this isn't something that needs to be implemented and I don't think it ever will be, but considering the pros and cons in an acedemic debate doesn't hurt anyone.

That's more like it. You and Roger Smith seem to make good points.

[Roger Smith]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

not so ridiculous? it still is.

it was reverted back to normal in a couple patches back. so it wasnt so ridiculous for one patch.

it was like 28 pages long and the biggest complaint was bunnyhopping and getting raped by 650 ft long tv shots.

bunnyhopping should never be in a game, its just annoying and doesnt promote aimed shots. i do agree that they made the wrong decision for the tvgm, i think as soon as it runs out of time it should lose player control and keep flying forward instead of blowing up, or they could just make it turn much less.

your gonna tell me they dont listen to whiners? i have the link at home and i'll post it when i get there. im currently at work. and im not the one who should look for a new game, the whiners are the ones who should look for a new game.

nope, they listen to whiners sure, but then they decide for themselves whats a good idea and whats not. you SHOULD find a game (like cs) that wont change ever, a game that has become stagnet with unchanged bad gameplay. bf2 has some gameplay problems, luckily dice is slowly evolving the game fo the better. so in short.

cs=stagnet primortial ooze
bf2=slowly evolving single celled orginizm

[WarGimp]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

I'm really getting fed up with worthless attack posts.
If you dissagree with the suggestion, state your case. Posting "STFU whiny Noob" over and over is just crap.

I personally wouldn't want the mentioned change to be implemented, but I'm willing to consiter how it could impact the game and maybe have a positive effect. Maybe.

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[vets.Sarge]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

STOP
CHANGING
THE ****ING
GAME

At least I'm honest
and a bit angry

[-iLL*NaYmL3sS]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

it was reverted back to normal in a couple patches back. so it wasnt so ridiculous for one patch.
bunnyhopping should never be in a game, its just annoying and doesnt promote aimed shots. i do agree that they made the wrong decision for the tvgm, i think as soon as it runs out of time it should lose player control and keep flying forward instead of blowing up, or they could just make it turn much less.

nope, they listen to whiners sure, but then they decide for themselves whats a good idea and whats not. you SHOULD find a game (like cs) that wont change ever, a game that has become stagnet with unchanged bad gameplay. bf2 has some gameplay problems, luckily dice is slowly evolving the game fo the better. so in short.

cs=stagnet primortial ooze
bf2=slowly evolving single celled orginizm

yea they decide based on the people complaining thoughts. and i shouldnt have to switch games, people who dont like what the producer produced in the first place should **** off and go find a new game.

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

i think it has to do with the interest factor. some people will just lose interest and find it boring. lets face it, lotsa people just play bf2 to solo cause its hella fun. i know lotsa people like that and i dont really think its a matter of maturity.

YOU TOOK MY HELICOPTER AND JET OUT MY FAVOURITE GAME EA I WILL VOW NEVER TO PLAY THIS GAME AGAIN SINCE I CAN'T GET MY 200 KILLS AND 0 DEATHS A ROUND.

True.

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

I stand by my post: changing the gameplay everytime someone nags is dumb. Either learn to play the game or do something else: although I can easily modify my tactics and strategies, I find it extremely annoying to have to do so because a few people can't find solutions to their in-game problems...

Seriously guys, learn to play the game in its current form or take up another hobby. You don't see FIDE/USCF/CCF changing the rules of chess or any of the pieces to make whiners and patzers feel better, do you ???! FCUK.

[-iLL*NaYmL3sS]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

YOU TOOK MY HELICOPTER AND JET OUT MY FAVOURITE GAME EA I WILL VOW NEVER TO PLAY THIS GAME AGAIN SINCE I CAN'T GET MY 200 KILLS AND 0 DEATHS A ROUND.

True.

yea, its hella fun to get that many kills and own that bad. and vehicles is what makes bf2 so unique and so cool. i mean would u still play bf2 without tanks jets and helos? it would be just another same fps as the others.

[Thomas Magnum]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

If you want realism so bad, go join the Marine Corps.

[deadman2312]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

I'm really getting fed up with worthless attack posts.
If you dissagree with the suggestion, state your case. Posting "STFU whiny Noob" over and over is just crap.

I personally wouldn't want the mentioned change to be implemented, but I'm willing to consiter how it could impact the game and maybe have a positive effect. Maybe.

This thread has been cleaned.

And there are quite a few of us that are getting fed up with coming here and seeing 4-5 different, equally worthless threads by the same guy, while mods do nothing about it.

personally i come here for intuitive discussion, something with a little meat in it. not some lamer with a moustache fetish ideas, or really wet day dreams of how he thinks this game should be, so he can accomplish more. Im AFRAID NOT!!!!!!

the threads are not researched, and not backed up in any way.

out of respect for you Wargimp, i will withhold further comments for my own enjoyment.

[Roger Smith]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

once again this is not an issue of realism, its simply an issue of promoting teamwork. a 1 second pause between switching spots is all thats being asked. just like the second it takes to prone. sure we could live without it, its not a big deal. but it would definitly be for the better. the removal of dolphin diving and jump shooting was a good move, maybe it was inspired by "whiners", but it promoted aiming above random movements.

to all you people that are saying, "stop changing the game, i cant win without unskilled gameplay". you need to realise that when someone creates a game, the goal is to make it and get it out the door, its not always shipped with the vision that the creators saw initially. when they patch it closer to thier vision you should embrace it or find a new game.

[Eternal-Souljah]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

yea, its hella fun to get that many kills and own that bad. and vehicles is what makes bf2 so unique and so cool. i mean would u still play bf2 without tanks jets and helos? it would be just another same fps as the others.

Yeah I would still play, I mean I do like flying the jet for dogfights etc really gets adrenalin? going?, but really I do different things, im not going to be bound to one thing, I don't have a problem with people solo piloting, I do it myself before rounds start, but usually I never get the chance to get in the heli and im not bothered I went from using the helicopter 80% of my vehicle time to about 10% mainly because everytime I hopped in some noob would gun and not even use the tv missile if I tell him too hes like ''how?'' or says ''I didn't see the helicopter when I lined him up for the shot when the heli was capping the flag... I would usually always go pilot so im in control, if im gunner with an unknown pilot then I don't know if hes gonna be a liability or an asset, hell every round its a tk fest for the helicopter.

So now that I rarely use the helicopter even though I can pilot/gun and solo, hell I used it on Euroforce since I really like the TigerHap, I did a verticle spin for a few minutes above a spawn, was kinda hard to do it but it was pretty effective and funny looking, anyway my gunner racked up alot of kills, but other than that I'd rather fly with someone who has a clue, im sick of flying with people who don't, I have had Master Sergeants etc get in and think that the MG is going to blow up a tank. So thats my reason for flying jet bassically all of the time reason? im in control, the dogfights, the fun, the speed. But my best score with the jet is 68 kills 0 deaths, at least 30 of them were from the cannon the rest bombs and missiles taking out tanks and jets.

So yea the vehicles do play a big part in the game, and they own but really would you call someone with 80-90% of their kills in a jet/heli 1337? just a question too see.

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

once again this is not an issue of realism, its simply an issue of promoting teamwork. a 1 second pause between switching spots is all thats being asked. just like the second it takes to prone. sure we could live without it, its not a big deal. but it would definitly be for the better. the removal of dolphin diving and jump shooting was a good move, maybe it was inspired by "whiners", but it promoted aiming above random movements.

to all you people that are saying, "stop changing the game, i cant win without unskilled gameplay". you need to realise that when someone creates a game, the goal is to make it and get it out the door, its not always shipped with the vision that the creators saw initially. when they patch it closer to thier vision you should embrace it or find a new game.

Bullsiht. You're purposefully lying about promoting teamwork to conceal the true reason for the nerfing you're proposing: just so you know, some of us can see through your crap. I'm done with this thread...

[Revoluti0n]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

I think being able to jump from driver to gunner in vehicles should be nerfed a bit. It's unrealistic and it gives too much of an advantage to the vehicle. I think if you are driving a vodnik by yourself and you see enemy and want to stop and switch to gunner it should actually take more than 1 nanosecond. They did that when going prone so why not do in with vehicles? Maybe it could animate it so you exit the vehicle, then re-enter it in the gunner position. If it takes only 1 or 2 seconds, that is better than the almost instantaneous switching that happens now.

I'm sure this suggestion will go over like a fart at a wedding reception, that's OK.

It really doesn't bother me as it is. It just seems that people want to complain to the point where the PC version is a complete Console version. Instead of asking for the bugs to be fixed people keep asking for this stupid crap that has nothing to do with anything to be "fixed" althought it is not broken.
Why dont you demand some new free content instead of asking for this crap? I love the way all EA asskissers try and band together to make the game dumber and dumber because they suck at it.

[deadman2312]

Re: Instantly switching positions in vehicles should be nerfed

a one second delay switching from the driver to gunner seat wouldnt change a thing.

im tired hearing about skill. skill, and video games do NOT intertwine. skills are something used in the real world to accomplish things. for example if someone is proficient riding a skateboard, it would be safe to say he has great motor skills. in cyber space via BF2 there arent skills, unless you consider pointing your crosshair over some pixels that resemble a human and clicking a skill. i dunno, thats real "iffy". Skillz, please.....